2016 Girls High School Soccer

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Academic and athletic money are totaled to determine what % of a ride a student athlete is getting. Using your Franklin Pierce example, if tuition, room and board are $47k: Franklin Pierce is a low level academic school that gives away tons of academic money to get kids to go there. $15k to $20k academic merit rewards are common. Add the athletic money you quote and you can see that it's pretty easy to get a total package of $24k which equals 51% of list price tuition, room and board.

You are correct about waiting for your club to promote your kid. If you sit around and wait for your club coach to get your kid recruited you're going to wait for a long time.

Great comments. Earlier I was trying to make a point that the smaller "Google-it" schools (F. Pierce is an excellent example) can be aggressive in the $$ they put forth between Merit and Athletic, it is realistic to play D2 and pay half price, over the four years, that is huge. I do like your mention of not being able to travel abroad, that is a valid point. Kids in sports will likely loose that opportunity which is unfortunate because most schools have great programs for that.

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Academic and athletic money are totaled to determine what % of a ride a student athlete is getting. Using your Franklin Pierce example, if tuition, room and board are $47k: Franklin Pierce is a low level academic school that gives away tons of academic money to get kids to go there. $15k to $20k academic merit rewards are common. Add the athletic money you quote and you can see that it's pretty easy to get a total package of $24k which equals 51% of list price tuition, room and board.

You are correct about waiting for your club to promote your kid. If you sit around and wait for your club coach to get your kid recruited you're going to wait for a long time.

True - the average aid (last year) for incoming freshmen was $18K - and 97% of kids got aid

But I thought the point here was how much athletic aid..because that's only contributing 10% to that 51% - again, some is better than none, but compared to the *extra* money spent in the youth years.

I say extra because parents are going (to the extent they can) to spend money on kids' activities..the differential is striving for the club/level of play that starts requiring the thousands of dollars on travel, hotels, etc.

Also, and not to knock FP (just looking at the data), but with a 40% four-year grad rate, that means people are spending more on a 5th/6th year or the kids are transferring so you're stuck chasing those dollars again.

There's a reason why some schools have to offer deep discounts..



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"But I thought the point here was how much athletic aid..because that's only contributing 10% to that 51% - again, some is better than none, but compared to the *extra* money spent in the youth years.

I say extra because parents are going (to the extent they can) to spend money on kids' activities..the differential is striving for the club/level of play that starts requiring the thousands of dollars on travel, hotels, etc."

how valuable is RI ODP to this equation?

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"But I thought the point here was how much athletic aid..because that's only contributing 10% to that 51% - again, some is better than none, but compared to the *extra* money spent in the youth years.

I say extra because parents are going (to the extent they can) to spend money on kids' activities..the differential is striving for the club/level of play that starts requiring the thousands of dollars on travel, hotels, etc."

how valuable is RI ODP to this equation?

Important in that it is the only route to Region 1 ODP.

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Important in that it is the only route to Region 1 ODP.

And how many spots does RI have in the Regional Pool? 1 Boy 1 Girl from RI. And they, obviously, need to be exceptional to make it into that Regional Team.
They will play regional games representing RI. However, RI is alotted 1 slot for each. Check it out. Another waste of money unless you have that EXCEPTIONAL player!

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And how many spots does RI have in the Regional Pool? 1 Boy 1 Girl from RI. And they, obviously, need to be exceptional to make it into that Regional Team.
They will play regional games representing RI. However, RI is alotted 1 slot for each. Check it out. Another waste of money unless you have that EXCEPTIONAL player!

The question was how valuable RI ODP was in the equation in the context of obtaining college athletic scholarship money for soccer. Making the Region 1 pool is still a major achievement for any RI youth player and allows for greater exposure and name recognition to college coaches. ODP isn't the only method for getting exposure but it definitely helps in the process. Attending a Region 1 camp is an excellent way for a player to measure themselves against players from outside of RI. And if that RI player does make the pool they've got a leg up on other RI players looking to play in college. How else will a RI kid know how good they are unless they test themselves against other good players from outside the state?

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The question was how valuable RI ODP was in the equation in the context of obtaining college athletic scholarship money for soccer. Making the Region 1 pool is still a major achievement for any RI youth player and allows for greater exposure and name recognition to college coaches. ODP isn't the only method for getting exposure but it definitely helps in the process. Attending a Region 1 camp is an excellent way for a player to measure themselves against players from outside of RI. And if that RI player does make the pool they've got a leg up on other RI players looking to play in college. How else will a RI kid know how good they are unless they test themselves against other good players from outside the state?

Go to mass odp and see if you make it, that will be your test. Everybody makes ri odp wouldn't even be beneficial for a kid with a decent skill set to play with anyone who has money.

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Go to mass odp and see if you make it, that will be your test. Everybody makes ri odp wouldn't even be beneficial for a kid with a decent skill set to play with anyone who has money.

Making the Mass team or the RI team or any state team isn't that tough these days. But making the Region 1 pool is still very difficult. I think the point is that in order to even have a chance at Region 1 you need to participate in your state program.

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Making the Mass team or the RI team or any state team isn't that tough these days. But making the Region 1 pool is still very difficult. I think the point is that in order to even have a chance at Region 1 you need to participate in your state program.

But the mass pool is a lot bigger, ri is lucky enough to get kids. People don't know you don't have to go through your state program.

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Go to mass odp and see if you make it, that will be your test. Everybody makes ri odp wouldn't even be beneficial for a kid with a decent skill set to play with anyone who has money.

It's not about ODP any more. It hasn't been for the last 3 to 5 years. If a girl wants to get recruited to play college soccer she needs to get on the very best team in the very best best league she is capable of making. That means ECNL. NEFC, FC Boston, Stars of Mass. Those are the clubs that will give girls the very best chance of landing a scholarship.

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If you have the money, RI ODP has the time. lol
Everyone makes RI ODP. There are boys and girls that, (forgive me), honestly don't belong out there. All about $$$ once again. Coaching is questionable.

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It's not about ODP any more. It hasn't been for the last 3 to 5 years. If a girl wants to get recruited to play college soccer she needs to get on the very best team in the very best best league she is capable of making. That means ECNL. NEFC, FC Boston, Stars of Mass. Those are the clubs that will give girls the very best chance of landing a scholarship.

Wrong..... local clubs also able to get kids into D1 schools and scholarship $$$$. Unless your daughter is the cream of the crop save your $$$$. Any NPL programs will do.

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Wrong..... local clubs also able to get kids into D1 schools and scholarship $$$$. Unless your daughter is the cream of the crop save your $$$$. Any NPL programs will do.

All I see from this is how to get your daughter to make a D1 team. Notice I said make the team and not play. I've seen too many young, impressionable girls (and their parents) get fooled with the notion that their star will play on that D1 team. Many club players will make a D1 or d2 team. Many also sit the bench for a year or more. It's sad that some people think less of d3 programs. I've been through this college process with my own girls. One played d3 as a freshman through her career. She enjoyed every moment and never has regretted this. Another one of mine accepted an athletic scholarship on a higher division team and only played in a handful of games. After transferring schools, for a variety of reasons, she played d3 and was considered an impact player. I guess it comes down to what a player wants out of her last 4 years playing at this level. in the end, my children wanted to play!

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All I see from this is how to get your daughter to make a D1 team. Notice I said make the team and not play. I've seen too many young, impressionable girls (and their parents) get fooled with the notion that their star will play on that D1 team. Many club players will make a D1 or d2 team. Many also sit the bench for a year or more. It's sad that some people think less of d3 programs. I've been through this college process with my own girls. One played d3 as a freshman through her career. She enjoyed every moment and never has regretted this. Another one of mine accepted an athletic scholarship on a higher division team and only played in a handful of games. After transferring schools, for a variety of reasons, she played d3 and was considered an impact player. I guess it comes down to what a player wants out of her last 4 years playing at this level. in the end, my children wanted to play!

Every player has their own college soccer goals. For some, d3 is fine and works in relation to the soccer-academic-social equation. Others won't be happy unless they're playing D1. It's an individual's choice. No judging. Everyone is different and has different priorities.

ECNL versus NPL? My observation is that you can get D1 or D2 soccer money playing for an NPL level club but it's going to take longer to get those offers and the choices will be fewer.

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Another LSA loss in a final to a public school. This time in girls basketball.