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**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 10:50 AM

Rams doing well I see!

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

How RI has done so far in North East Sub Regional League.

Bayside FC Bolts

Bayside FC U15 Boys 1st/8th place 5-0-0 w/2 games remaining 27/3
Bayside FC U14 Girls 3rd/8th place 3-1-1 w/2 games remaining 6/4
Bayside FC U15 Girls 1st/8th place 3-1-1 w/2 games remaining 13/6
Bayside FC U16 Girls 6th/8th place 1-0-0 w/6 games remaining 4/0

Black Watch Premier

Black Watch U14 Boys 2nd/6th place 2-0-0 w/5 games remaining 5/0
Black Watch U15 Boys 4th/6th place 1-1-2 w/3 games remaining 4/6
Black Watch U16 Boys 7th/7th place 0-0-2 w/4 games remaining 2/4

Rams FC

Rams FC U16 Boys 7th/7th place 0-0-5 w/1 game remaining 0/19
Rams FC U16 Girls 8th/8th place 0-0-4 w/3 games remaining 0/15
Rams FC U17 Girls 10th /10th place 0-1-2 w/6 games remaining 1/4

RI Strikers U14 Girls 2nd/8th place 2-4-0 w/1game remaining 7/5

South County U15 Girls 6th/8th place 2-0-5 w/0 games remaining 6/13

Looks like Bayside and RI Strikers doing the best. BWP pretty good. Rams/south county not so hot Also looks like Tidal Wave was smart enough not to embarrass itself again this year.

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Looks like Bayside and RI Strikers doing the best. BWP pretty good. Rams/south county not so hot Also looks like Tidal Wave was smart enough not to embarrass itself again this year.

First, if you are using the records, then okay, but don't say BWP pretty good. Their u14 team is their best (although we'll see if that translates to state cup this year)..the other teams, well, relook the record, not sure how 7th out of 7th translates to pretty good.

Second, if you know the RAMS, you know they have a couple of good teams, but the older teams are almost all multiple age groups because they don't have the numbers to make single age group teams. They get away with that at the younger ages (although their u12 boys is very good), but it catches up with you at u14 and above playing other premier clubs who have teams of actually the single (older) age group. The 17s have some of the better players from a few different HS, but what holds the RAMS back to a degree if the dominance of the SK HS coaches..not a judgment on good or bad, just they might do better given the regional advantage if the club was perceived more as an offshoot of URI (I mean, the URI girls coach works for Bayside, not RAMS) and not a money maker for URI men's team using SK HS coaches to do a majority of the lifting.

If GE and TB actually take teams, you might see some more interest and an ability to amp up talent. There really should be an ability to draw the A-/B+ players in Washington County to a single premier club and too bad the combined forces of say SC, URI, NK, Jamestown, EG,EWG and EG could not form what could be a powerhouse town/premier club.

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

First, if you are using the records, then okay, but don't say BWP pretty good. Their u14 team is their best (although we'll see if that translates to state cup this year)..the other teams, well, relook the record, not sure how 7th out of 7th translates to pretty good.

Second, if you know the RAMS, you know they have a couple of good teams, but the older teams are almost all multiple age groups because they don't have the numbers to make single age group teams. They get away with that at the younger ages (although their u12 boys is very good), but it catches up with you at u14 and above playing other premier clubs who have teams of actually the single (older) age group. The 17s have some of the better players from a few different HS, but what holds the RAMS back to a degree if the dominance of the SK HS coaches..not a judgment on good or bad, just they might do better given the regional advantage if the club was perceived more as an offshoot of URI (I mean, the URI girls coach works for Bayside, not RAMS) and not a money maker for URI men's team using SK HS coaches to do a majority of the lifting.

If GE and TB actually take teams, you might see some more interest and an ability to amp up talent. There really should be an ability to draw the A-/B+ players in Washington County to a single premier club and too bad the combined forces of say SC, URI, NK, Jamestown, EG,EWG and EG could not form what could be a powerhouse town/premier club.

It's already happening its called Bayside South. Not saying that it's a final product but it is going to be the best option in Southern RI in a few years. They will have single age teams from 9-14 on girls side next year. And you are correct SK HS coach is the issue with rams. That may attract south kids but not going to work for EG, NK and Chairho parents. If URI mens and women's staff came together to make it work could be a good thing.

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

First, if you are using the records, then okay, but don't say BWP pretty good. Their u14 team is their best (although we'll see if that translates to state cup this year)..the other teams, well, relook the record, not sure how 7th out of 7th translates to pretty good.

Second, if you know the RAMS, you know they have a couple of good teams, but the older teams are almost all multiple age groups because they don't have the numbers to make single age group teams. They get away with that at the younger ages (although their u12 boys is very good), but it catches up with you at u14 and above playing other premier clubs who have teams of actually the single (older) age group. The 17s have some of the better players from a few different HS, but what holds the RAMS back to a degree if the dominance of the SK HS coaches..not a judgment on good or bad, just they might do better given the regional advantage if the club was perceived more as an offshoot of URI (I mean, the URI girls coach works for Bayside, not RAMS) and not a money maker for URI men's team using SK HS coaches to do a majority of the lifting.

If GE and TB actually take teams, you might see some more interest and an ability to amp up talent. There really should be an ability to draw the A-/B+ players in Washington County to a single premier club and too bad the combined forces of say SC, URI, NK, Jamestown, EG,EWG and EG could not form what could be a powerhouse town/premier club.

Why not do what Smithfield/RI Strikers are doing in the North? I think the biggest problem in RI is that everyone is too territorial. RI is way way way too small to be successful if associations, clubs, coaches are only worried about protecting turf. The turf is way too tiny. Why not compete at your level, recognizing that there are much higher levels that some, not all, of your players could play at and try to get them to that level. If that means making then available to guest play elsewhere then do it. If it means pushing them to do ODP then do it. If it means letting them play in another league for a better team with better competition but still coming back to play for you part time then do it. Lastly, as a coach, if you know in your heart of hearts that you have a player or two that could get what they really need somewhere else at a higher level than what you can offer then by all means help them do that. Coaches, however are more concerned with win/loss record and got soccer points than anything else, no matter how it affects their players.

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Why not do what Smithfield/RI Strikers are doing in the North? I think the biggest problem in RI is that everyone is too territorial. RI is way way way too small to be successful if associations, clubs, coaches are only worried about protecting turf. The turf is way too tiny. Why not compete at your level, recognizing that there are much higher levels that some, not all, of your players could play at and try to get them to that level. If that means making then available to guest play elsewhere then do it. If it means pushing them to do ODP then do it. If it means letting them play in another league for a better team with better competition but still coming back to play for you part time then do it. Lastly, as a coach, if you know in your heart of hearts that you have a player or two that could get what they really need somewhere else at a higher level than what you can offer then by all means help them do that. Coaches, however are more concerned with win/loss record and got soccer points than anything else, no matter how it affects their players.

Rams FC U17 is the perfect example of this. You have a team that is mediocre with some very good players who could play at Bayside make an impact for the state while also helping out their own situation with regards to recruiting. You have a coach who is hurting the players by making them play up in age and attending meaningless tournaments with very little exposure. If your child has an opportunity to play in a better environment its the coaches responsibility to notify you of that. Bayside and Black Watch do it all the time when they send the best players to the academy. They don't hold them back so they can win state cups. That's the difference between a club doing the right thing and the wrong thing. I feel bad for the 2016s who have been hidden by rams program attending tournaments as U17s. They still have a chance if they can get to Disney and Jeff cup with bayside 17s next year! Other then that it's D3 for most of them.

**Unregistered** · 04-14-2014, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Rams FC U17 is the perfect example of this. You have a team that is mediocre with some very good players who could play at Bayside make an impact for the state while also helping out their own situation with regards to recruiting. You have a coach who is hurting the players by making them play up in age and attending meaningless tournaments with very little exposure. If your child has an opportunity to play in a better environment its the coaches responsibility to notify you of that. Bayside and Black Watch do it all the time when they send the best players to the academy. They don't hold them back so they can win state cups. That's the difference between a club doing the right thing and the wrong thing. I feel bad for the 2016s who have been hidden by rams program attending tournaments as U17s. They still have a chance if they can get to Disney and Jeff cup with bayside 17s next year! Other then that it's D3 for most of them.

You are spot on. But don't blame the Rams coaches. Blame the girls' parents.

**Unregistered** · 04-15-2014, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

It's already happening its called Bayside South. Not saying that it's a final product but it is going to be the best option in Southern RI in a few years. They will have single age teams from 9-14 on girls side next year. And you are correct SK HS coach is the issue with rams. That may attract south kids but not going to work for EG, NK and Chairho parents. If URI mens and women's staff came together to make it work could be a good thing.

Please. You have coaches in EG, Ocean State, South County with higher licenses and more pedigree. Bayside South was not a bad thought, picking off disgruntled parents or the ones looking for the "premier" tag without the travel, but Bayside would be better off making a partnership deal with say an EG or NK/Ocean State (I'd add SC but the RAMS have too much pull with SK coaches in that club) -- instead of competing with them, give those clubs the ability to leverage the premier team advantages (ie. avoiding the community rule) in exchange for running their academy programs and offering paid technical training, etc.

There is not enough talent in the south for multiple premier teams, let alone parsing among some of the better town programs that keep a 1 to 3 "better" teams (ie. competing in MAPLE, doing okay in the NEFC type tournaments) and not enough bench at Bayside to run a southern wing. Bayside should be more interested in picking off the handful of potentially solid players in the area, not running a handful of average teams so if you partner to run the technical side and use it to ID players while allowing the town teams to keep some identity under the Bayside umbrella (technically) you might find a win-win situation.

**Unregistered** · 04-15-2014, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Rams FC U17 is the perfect example of this. You have a team that is mediocre with some very good players who could play at Bayside make an impact for the state while also helping out their own situation with regards to recruiting. You have a coach who is hurting the players by making them play up in age and attending meaningless tournaments with very little exposure. If your child has an opportunity to play in a better environment its the coaches responsibility to notify you of that. Bayside and Black Watch do it all the time when they send the best players to the academy. They don't hold them back so they can win state cups. That's the difference between a club doing the right thing and the wrong thing. I feel bad for the 2016s who have been hidden by rams program attending tournaments as U17s. They still have a chance if they can get to Disney and Jeff cup with bayside 17s next year! Other then that it's D3 for most of them.

Those kids that have moved on to the Academy were already known to the Revs and bolts. The coaches had no choice. GH had known about those players and they were going to lose them anyway.as another posted had stated the south had some very good coaches at the town level just as good as any club coaches.many of those coaches have played high level and have coaching experience don't make it sound more than it is

**Unregistered** · 04-19-2014, 05:55 PM

Bayside FC Bolts U15 boys locked up 1st place today and will face winner of red division for spot in region 1 league.

**Unregistered** · 04-19-2014, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Bayside FC Bolts U15 boys locked up 1st place today and will face winner of red division for spot in region 1 league.

did any RI boys team play in the Region 1 Premier League last year?

**Unregistered** · 04-20-2014, 09:58 AM

BWP at sub regional

It seems the best BWP team according to this forum, the U14 took two serious beating yesterday, for a team bragging about being undefeated in sub region, it must be a tough awakening. 3-1 and 3-0 does not seem like the BWP kick ball approach actually works at that level. A little modesty would have served them well it seems...