Bruno-what am I paying for?

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Good points. I'm all for inter state club rivalry, but what about when 50% of the teams in an age division are from the same club? Guess it goes back to the point made on TS many times that if mom & dad are willing to write the check any kids that can kick a ball can play premier soccer. Probably true not just in RI. So maybe the "club resources" would be better spent bringing up the technical skill levels of their B and C players, and not entering 3 or more teams from the same club in State cup, sounds like that would be more in line with these clubs mission of "player development"....

Lets take a look at the U12 girls bracket which I think you are referring to. There are 4 Bayside teams in that bracket. In hindsight, I would have liked to see 2 teams in the 8v8 and 1 team in the 11v11 but the fact that U12 are development academy teams and most clubs prefer playing 8v8. If Bayside was more concern about winning they could combined the B & C teams and play 11v11 but they choosed to have all of them play 8v8 so players can gain State Cup experience and the fact that players can have more touches in that format. Also 1 of the team is a U11 team which I assumed the coach wanted them to see how they perform in this type of tournament. When you say this is a waste of resources I assumed you care more about records then having the experience of playing State Cup. Playing in this type of tournament format is also a great way for coaches to assess players' development. I can assure you the players/teams can benefit more in the long run.

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Good points. I'm all for inter state club rivalry, but what about when 50% of the teams in an age division are from the same club? Guess it goes back to the point made on TS many times that if mom & dad are willing to write the check any kids that can kick a ball can play premier soccer. Probably true not just in RI. So maybe the "club resources" would be better spent bringing up the technical skill levels of their B and C players, and not entering 3 or more teams from the same club in State cup, sounds like that would be more in line with these clubs mission of "player development"....

Bitter much? The Bayside B team beat Luisitana . They deserve a chance as much as any other team. They might be the second best team in the state so why shouldn't they try for cup. Bruno allows it's U13 Boys B team to compete even though they might end up playing the A team. Maybe they should tell that team that they are worth spending 600 bucks on.

Noone cares that the club spent money on entry. Bayside is not a poor club. The complaint about wasted money (Bruno) was about the sensibility of asking PARENTS to pay travel expenses (hotel, food, gas) to travel to Glastonbury to play Barrington!!!

And as far as spending money on other training, Bayside probably trains more than any other premier club. Twice a week in Fall and Spring. Three times a week in Winter. They really should have asked the girls to just sit home? What fabulous training are they going to get with $600? Apparently you think teams develop by NOT playing soccer. And I'm not sure I'd rake that B team over the coals about their record. Glass houses and all.

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This debate highlights the fundamental differences between the clubs. Bayside pushes players/teams out of their comfort zone sometimes and has them reach. Bruno choose the safer, easier on the ego approach.

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Not bitter

Not bitter. Just tired of the bayside posters on TS that constantly bash all other clubs on TS. It's ok for them to throw stones from their glass houses about other clubs fees, teams records, etc but when anyone points out a different perspective they are called bitter. Bayside clearly does certain things well, but no one club is going to be perfect for everyone. Some of the best players in RI will never play for Bayside in part because of the constant bragging, gloating & insufferable TS posts.

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Not bitter. Just tired of the bayside posters on TS that constantly bash all other clubs on TS. It's ok for them to throw stones from their glass houses about other clubs fees, teams records, etc but when anyone points out a different perspective they are called bitter. Bayside clearly does certain things well, but no one club is going to be perfect for everyone. Some of the best players in RI will never play for Bayside in part because of the constant bragging, gloating & insufferable TS posts.

You take TS too seriously. Most of the stuff here are trolls starting trouble. Unless you see gloating and bragging on the field, then don't go by TS to form your opinion on Bayside as a club. It's an anonymous forum and anyone can say anything.

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Small towns such as Glocester, Scituate, North Smithfield,etc. enter the Little League state baseball and softball tournament every year and have absolutely no chance of winning a district or state title - but nobody scolds them for entering.

Playing state cup is all about the experience of playing in the only tournament that matters. It's the state championship. It's the only tournament that leads up to a regional and national championship. Every RI town and club team should play! And I am going to guess that every soccer kid wants to play, too.

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Lets take a look at the U12 girls bracket which I think you are referring to. There are 4 Bayside teams in that bracket. In hindsight, I would have liked to see 2 teams in the 8v8 and 1 team in the 11v11 but the fact that U12 are development academy teams and most clubs prefer playing 8v8. If Bayside was more concern about winning they could combined the B & C teams and play 11v11 but they choosed to have all of them play 8v8 so players can gain State Cup experience and the fact that players can have more touches in that format. Also 1 of the team is a U11 team which I assumed the coach wanted them to see how they perform in this type of tournament. When you say this is a waste of resources I assumed you care more about records then having the experience of playing State Cup. Playing in this type of tournament format is also a great way for coaches to assess players' development. I can assure you the players/teams can benefit more in the long run.

This also brings up a few points about SRI and promoting youth soccer. The issue at U12 is why aren't more town programs putting in for state cup? Where are the Providence/Pawtucket that dominate U12 anchor boys? Where are the WFF/Coventry that do well at Girls anchor/classic gold (the in between age groups)?

You see the Portsmouths, South County, Ocean States (and BGYSA/Scituate) among the 12/13/14/15 (wow, what is up with Bruno 15G?) and I see Lincoln/Cumberland at u12 playing in 11 v 11 so that is another strategy.

But, with a few exceptions, the premier teams will be the winner, but more town programs can be competitive and some do a disservice simply rolling up at classic gold and not putting in for state cup (and SRI should do more to encourage town programs) - it's little travel, good exposure, and a way to promote more player identification.

Also, it is not many, but you see a few premier teams that don't enter -- that is shocking.

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This also brings up a few points about SRI and promoting youth soccer. The issue at U12 is why aren't more town programs putting in for state cup? Where are the Providence/Pawtucket that dominate U12 anchor boys? Where are the WFF/Coventry that do well at Girls anchor/classic gold (the in between age groups)?

You see the Portsmouths, South County, Ocean States (and BGYSA/Scituate) among the 12/13/14/15 (wow, what is up with Bruno 15G?) and I see Lincoln/Cumberland at u12 playing in 11 v 11 so that is another strategy.

But, with a few exceptions, the premier teams will be the winner, but more town programs can be competitive and some do a disservice simply rolling up at classic gold and not putting in for state cup (and SRI should do more to encourage town programs) - it's little travel, good exposure, and a way to promote more player identification.

Also, it is not many, but you see a few premier teams that don't enter -- that is shocking.

I spoke with one of those towns. Providence/ Pawtucket do not enter because they cannot afford the $600 dollars up front. SRI will not allow payment in installments. That is why only the wealthy towns can enter.

They would LOVE to be able to play. Especially this year with regionals at URI. You'd think SRI could offer financial assistance.

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This also brings up a few points about SRI and promoting youth soccer. The issue at U12 is why aren't more town programs putting in for state cup? Where are the Providence/Pawtucket that dominate U12 anchor boys? Where are the WFF/Coventry that do well at Girls anchor/classic gold (the in between age groups)?

You see the Portsmouths, South County, Ocean States (and BGYSA/Scituate) among the 12/13/14/15 (wow, what is up with Bruno 15G?) and I see Lincoln/Cumberland at u12 playing in 11 v 11 so that is another strategy.

But, with a few exceptions, the premier teams will be the winner, but more town programs can be competitive and some do a disservice simply rolling up at classic gold and not putting in for state cup (and SRI should do more to encourage town programs) - it's little travel, good exposure, and a way to promote more player identification.

Also, it is not many, but you see a few premier teams that don't enter -- that is shocking.

Agree completely. However I am curious what the logic is for Ocean State Girls U12 to be entered into the U13 division. I have no idea if they are good or not but "playing up" in State Cup seems ill-advised. You are playing State Cup to prove you are the best in your age group and gender, that is all you should be trying to prove. it seems there is nothing to gain by that decision.

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This also brings up a few points about SRI and promoting youth soccer. The issue at U12 is why aren't more town programs putting in for state cup? Where are the Providence/Pawtucket that dominate U12 anchor boys? Where are the WFF/Coventry that do well at Girls anchor/classic gold (the in between age groups)?

You see the Portsmouths, South County, Ocean States (and BGYSA/Scituate) among the 12/13/14/15 (wow, what is up with Bruno 15G?) and I see Lincoln/Cumberland at u12 playing in 11 v 11 so that is another strategy.

But, with a few exceptions, the premier teams will be the winner, but more town programs can be competitive and some do a disservice simply rolling up at classic gold and not putting in for state cup (and SRI should do more to encourage town programs) - it's little travel, good exposure, and a way to promote more player identification.

Also, it is not many, but you see a few premier teams that don't enter -- that is shocking.

Thanks Maire Antoinette. There are towns that are shut out financially. Must be in someone's best interest, eh? Less likely for town teams to embarrass premier clubs who can then poach players with the carrots of scholarship and state cup play. SRI encourage them to participate? What a cruel joke.

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Agree completely. However I am curious what the logic is for Ocean State Girls U12 to be entered into the U13 division. I have no idea if they are good or not but "playing up" in State Cup seems ill-advised. You are playing State Cup to prove you are the best in your age group and gender, that is all you should be trying to prove. it seems there is nothing to gain by that decision.

You agree completely? The problem is not that the town teams in Providence/Pawtucket are too STUPID to understand the importance of state cup and need SRI to hold their hand and explain it to them. The problem is that they are financially shut out so they cannot get access.

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You agree completely? The problem is not that the town teams in Providence/Pawtucket are too STUPID to understand the importance of state cup and need SRI to hold their hand and explain it to them. The problem is that they are financially shut out so they cannot get access.

Please stop. Typical yearly fees for Town Associations will run from $500 - $800 per player for fall/winter/spring depending on the individual association. I am sure that Barrington and Lincoln are already close to a $1000. I would guess that Pawtucket has at least 350 members who are able to pay their dues without assistance from Pawtucket Youth Soccer. If an additional $10 ($10 Total! A one time fee of just $10) were added to their yearly fee that would generate $3500. Enough to send 6 six teams to State Cup.

Anyone who has been on TS over the last few months are very familiar with a Pawtucket parent ranting about the superiority of the Pawtucket teams over the Premiere teams. It was said by many .... "State Cup is how you prove it." Seriously .... it's not that hard to pay for a couple of teams to play State Cup. Stop crying and fix it.

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Please stop. Typical yearly fees for Town Associations will run from $500 - $800 per player for fall/winter/spring depending on the individual association. I am sure that Barrington and Lincoln are already close to a $1000. I would guess that Pawtucket has at least 350 members who are able to pay their dues without assistance from Pawtucket Youth Soccer. If an additional $10 ($10 Total! A one time fee of just $10) were added to their yearly fee that would generate $3500. Enough to send 6 six teams to State Cup.

Anyone who has been on TS over the last few months are very familiar with a Pawtucket parent ranting about the superiority of the Pawtucket teams over the Premiere teams. It was said by many .... "State Cup is how you prove it." Seriously .... it's not that hard to pay for a couple of teams to play State Cup. Stop crying and fix it.

I guess you've never met anyone who has had to live from week to week on their paycheck.
That team said they could not afford the entry fee all at once. Maybe you know everything about the financial reality of the area. How disgustingly condescending.

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Please stop. Typical yearly fees for Town Associations will run from $500 - $800 per player for fall/winter/spring depending on the individual association. I am sure that Barrington and Lincoln are already close to a $1000. I would guess that Pawtucket has at least 350 members who are able to pay their dues without assistance from Pawtucket Youth Soccer. If an additional $10 ($10 Total! A one time fee of just $10) were added to their yearly fee that would generate $3500. Enough to send 6 six teams to State Cup.

Anyone who has been on TS over the last few months are very familiar with a Pawtucket parent ranting about the superiority of the Pawtucket teams over the Premiere teams. It was said by many .... "State Cup is how you prove it." Seriously .... it's not that hard to pay for a couple of teams to play State Cup. Stop crying and fix it.

Less than $500 a year with that being a struggle for some families. Your advice is shut up and fix it really?? Let's ignore the input that the state cup fee is a struggle for them and we can chat here about the importance of state cup to promote youth development. And we can ponder why Providence/Pawtucket does not enter and Portsmouth does.

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Less than $500 a year with that being a struggle for some families. Your advice is shut up and fix it really?? Let's ignore the input that the state cup fee is a struggle for them and we can chat here about the importance of state cup to promote youth development. And we can ponder why Providence/Pawtucket does not enter and Portsmouth does.

Many of the Providence/Pawtucket teams have players that dual roster with premier teams. Players can only roster on one state cup team, thus some of the best players on the town teams can't play for the town.

What's the cost? $500 + ref fees for 2,3, maybe 4 games. Might sound like typical tournament fees for a four game schedule, but for a team to go 2 games and out at $600 that's no bargain.