RI Pumas

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It seems like a unique to RI thing that it would be allowed for high up people at a RI club (namely RI Surf) to create a "town" club where they just take their club teams and play them in another (lower-level) league. Is this ethical? Why is this allowed? Who does it benefit? Does this mean that anyone can do this? How does corporate Surf feel about it? I am sure they train their coaches on the risk of injuries from overuse? I'm new to this state and I just think it is weird.

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New to this state, lol. You seem like you are doing an awful lot of homework on a "lower-level" league, to not have some sort of agenda. Fill us in on that agenda.

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Not sure if you are actually new to this state but the Pumas are embarrassing themselves to most of us involved in town soccer. It’s run by a dad/coach who coaches a Surf team or two. He basically has his Surf team get extra playing time by registering them in RI town soccer. Kind of a sandbag vibe. We don’t even bother sending our kid to those games because this dad coach encourages his Surf players to hurt girls probably because his team is physical but not technical.
not sure why RI soccer allows a club team to register under a fake town team name.

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Not sure if you are actually new to this state but the Pumas are embarrassing themselves to most of us involved in town soccer. It’s run by a dad/coach who coaches a Surf team or two. He basically has his Surf team get extra playing time by registering them in RI town soccer. Kind of a sandbag vibe. We don’t even bother sending our kid to those games because this dad coach encourages his Surf players to hurt girls probably because his team is physical but not technical.
not sure why RI soccer allows a club team to register under a fake town team name.

The FB likes from these parents must be off the charts!!

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Not sure if you are actually new to this state but the Pumas are embarrassing themselves to most of us involved in town soccer. It’s run by a dad/coach who coaches a Surf team or two. He basically has his Surf team get extra playing time by registering them in RI town soccer. Kind of a sandbag vibe. We don’t even bother sending our kid to those games because this dad coach encourages his Surf players to hurt girls probably because his team is physical but not technical.
not sure why RI soccer allows a club team to register under a fake town team name.

What choice do the Pumas/Surf have?! They can’t get into ECNL or GA and play in a third tier league. How else will the parents know how good their kids are if they aren’t beating up on town teams LOL.

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Not sure if you are actually new to this state but the Pumas are embarrassing themselves to most of us involved in town soccer. It’s run by a dad/coach who coaches a Surf team or two. He basically has his Surf team get extra playing time by registering them in RI town soccer. Kind of a sandbag vibe. We don’t even bother sending our kid to those games because this dad coach encourages his Surf players to hurt girls probably because his team is physical but not technical.
not sure why RI soccer allows a club team to register under a fake town team name.

Why would you not send your kid to those games? If your player does town exclusively, it's a great chance to measure up against a mid-table club team. Beating them is even better.

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Welcome to Ri! I can tell you corporate Surf doesn’t even know about RI surf bec they are low level to the Real surf that plays at a much higher level than Ri surf. This is basically GPS with a new name. Don’t worry people laugh at RI surf when you mention then in other states especially down south or on the west coast. To bed honest Ri surf is a glorified town team themselves. But also can’t get mad at them because people are buying into their scheme so they will keep
doing what they are doing until they have to change their name again.

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Why would you not send your kid to those games? If your player does town exclusively, it's a great chance to measure up against a mid-table club team. Beating them is even better.

Measure up? Rev kids parents could care less. No need to send your kid to a game when you got Coach L telling players to sweep the leg like karate kid. No need for any kid, rec or club to play against kids who are playing dirty because they aren’t taught technical skills. Lots of rec kids are playing 3 sports. They don’t need to miss a season because of a dirty surf/puma player injures them.

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Superliga needs to put an end to the club teams posing as town teams. The players on that team have no rev players, all play on the same club team with the same coach. It’s not only pathetic it actually affects other towns numbers. For example if pumas has kids from barrington Bristol Tiverton etc those are players that could be playing on their own town teams who might be their teammates on their high school teams. So odd Superliga allows this in a recreational league.

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Measure up? Rev kids parents could care less. No need to send your kid to a game when you got Coach L telling players to sweep the leg like karate kid. No need for any kid, rec or club to play against kids who are playing dirty because they aren’t taught technical skills. Lots of rec kids are playing 3 sports. They don’t need to miss a season because of a dirty surf/puma player injures them.

I'm surprised you put it that way, because Super Liga is supposed to be competitive. Certainly the stronger town teams in the Anchor division (where you see the Pumas) are full of good players, many of whom play club soccer as well. The Pumas teams play physical, definitely an adjustment to players who have never played at club or even watched high school soccer, but I haven't seen any sweeping the leg or anything like that. Can you describe an example?

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Superliga needs to put an end to the club teams posing as town teams. The players on that team have no rev players, all play on the same club team with the same coach. It’s not only pathetic it actually affects other towns numbers. For example if pumas has kids from barrington Bristol Tiverton etc those are players that could be playing on their own town teams who might be their teammates on their high school teams. So odd Superliga allows this in a recreational league.

This argument has gone back and forth for years. So many of the "town" teams are stacked full of club players. Some towns hire pro coaches and still compete against volunteer coached teams. Where do you want to draw the line for "fair" competition?

And at the end of the day, either the Pumas are really that good (I don't think they are), in which case all the other teams fielding club players should look at themselves, or else they aren't so who cares?

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This argument has gone back and forth for years. So many of the "town" teams are stacked full of club players. Some towns hire pro coaches and still compete against volunteer coached teams. Where do you want to draw the line for "fair" competition?

And at the end of the day, either the Pumas are really that good (I don't think they are), in which case all the other teams fielding club players should look at themselves, or else they aren't so who cares?

Name one town team made up entirely of club players who play on the same team and coaches by that same club coach. None. Only pumas. Doesn’t matter if Barrington is 60% club players on to town team, there are still rec players, and the coaches are usually parent volunteers not the club coach. The town teams are also playing all of their rec players at least 50% likely more of the game. So you want to stack up a town Rec player against year round club players? No they aren’t a great team. But they are a physical team and they play a fast aggressive game which would roll over player to player, puma player to Rec player in a 1 v 1. No way is Pumas a team that is as good as the clubs in MA. But as I said a puma player will beat a town player.

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Name one town team made up entirely of club players who play on the same team and coaches by that same club coach. None. Only pumas. Doesn’t matter if Barrington is 60% club players on to town team, there are still rec players, and the coaches are usually parent volunteers not the club coach.

Why doesn't it matter? If Barrington has pro coaches and 60% club players and 40% good non-club players, why is that not good enough to play Pumas?

The town teams are also playing all of their rec players at least 50% likely more of the game.

No they aren't. Maybe at the younger age groups. Which Pumas team are you so concerned bout?

So you want to stack up a town Rec player against year round club players? No they aren’t a great team. But they are a physical team and they play a fast aggressive game which would roll over player to player, puma player to Rec player in a 1 v 1. No way is Pumas a team that is as good as the clubs in MA. But as I said a puma player will beat a town player.

You keep calling them Rec players. Again in Anchor they are supposed to be competitive players, club or not. Many athletic town players are better than 2nd- and 3rd-tier club players, so why not?

At the end of the day, town teams have beaten Pumas. Why not be the next to do it?

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Sure. Keep telling yourself that. But those of us watching the games see a weak club team using town soccer as an opportunity to not only win/brag, but for extra practice. You don’t see the big MA clubs doing this. Another reason RI club players need to get out of RI.

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Keep telling myself what? That teams should beat Pumas instead of complaining about them?