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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    14 goals against the second most in the age bracket....looks like Lusitania should recruit a GK this year, only one team worse! Look at the BW u-14G same thing 16 goals against show the lack of talent in RI, take your kids and go to Ma.....
    Isn't the BW keeper the one who's parents switch her team a few times a year

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      #92
      I've been the poster who's been crapping on RI, and I really want to see RI succeed.

      The fact that RI is small really should not be a factor. There are plenty of players. The problem is the best tend to leave. And the other problem is the clubs in RI really don't, in my opinion, have a good foundation of coaching and progressive thinking.

      RI is the second most densely populated state in the US. There are enough kids in the Providence region to make it work.

      And good clubs will attract Mass kids. There isn't a ton right over the border for kids to do.

      People are voting with their wallets right now. Talented players walk right out of RI and many times well out of their way to Mass clubs. Some play in CT. Some come to RI, and leave shortly after.

      There needs to be a strong DOC, has to bring in strong coaches, not just in 1 or 2 age groups, and has to break free of the RI mentality that being RI state champs isn't good enough.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I've been the poster who's been crapping on RI, and I really want to see RI succeed.

        The fact that RI is small really should not be a factor. There are plenty of players. The problem is the best tend to leave. And the other problem is the clubs in RI really don't, in my opinion, have a good foundation of coaching and progressive thinking.

        RI is the second most densely populated state in the US. There are enough kids in the Providence region to make it work.

        And good clubs will attract Mass kids. There isn't a ton right over the border for kids to do.

        People are voting with their wallets right now. Talented players walk right out of RI and many times well out of their way to Mass clubs. Some play in CT. Some come to RI, and leave shortly after.

        There needs to be a strong DOC, has to bring in strong coaches, not just in 1 or 2 age groups, and has to break free of the RI mentality that being RI state champs isn't good enough.
        Your initial premise is flawed. Of course being a small state has a huge impact. Here is the difference. In a larger population in stead of getting 2 really good player you get 5. 4 is enough to have a really good team. The really good RI players and family's look at the teams with 4-5 equal players and make the move.

        Where you are right is that RI could improve in coaching and and progressive thinking. I would think that RI needs to excel in Club quality and coaching or things will never get better. Coaches on bigger clubs in MA succeed due to numbers. The small clubs in MA, suffer from the same problems that all the RI clubs do.

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          #94
          A perfectly respectable finish by the Bayside u15g against MD. Great job and way to represent little Rhody!

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            A perfectly respectable finish by the Bayside u15g against MD. Great job and way to represent little Rhody!
            So true. Good job girls.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Thats a joke. FSA will wipe the floor with bayside. It will come down to NEFC and FSA
              Why did you think Bayside had an easy draw? I didn't think they would go 0-3 but man you were off big time. FSA is one of the best teams in the Region so that alone makes it the complete opposite of what you posted. Probably the worst possible draw they could get.

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                #97
                The draw in any pool is a guessing game, these are girls who play their hearts out for a sport they love and to bash people and towns on here is stupid to say the least. Win lose or draw they fight, no team lays down in Regionals, doesn't matter if you are ranked #1 in the region or #300 in the region, teams are ranked higher than others and lower than others at all levels and you all now that.

                weather they play in MA, RI, VT, DE, ME or anywhere else, they fight to win and the teams are better for being there. If you don't like your club go somewhere else, it's that simple.

                As a parent who has been to regionals for 2 years, it is amazing to see the girls grow an you people will never take that away from them, they will be stronger people and soccer players for being there.

                leave your frustration on the sideline, cheer for your kids and when its all said and done, hope they did well and grew from it. I know the girls had a blast and regionals brings out a better stronger person and player in them.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  A perfectly respectable finish by the Bayside u15g against MD. Great job and way to represent little Rhody!
                  Well done - they won the games they should've, they won they game they needed to yesterday with 10 minutes left, and scared the hell out of Maryland through the 70' minute today.

                  It really was a 2-1 game, the 3rd was a garbage goal when Bayside was pushing for the tie. I think last year and this years performances vs a bonafide national club like PSC Baltimore shows this team has a lot to offer.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    .... And the other problem is the clubs in RI really don't, in my opinion, have a good foundation of coaching and progressive thinking.
                    I can not agree with this more. It is one thing to play the game and another to coach it. You could have been the best player back in the day but have difficulty transitioning to the role of coach, especially a youth soccer coach. It's great to have all that knowledge of the game, but if you don't know how to relate it to a youth team, what good is it? They should have better training for coaches on how to work with kids and what type of reinforcement gets the best result.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I can not agree with this more. It is one thing to play the game and another to coach it. You could have been the best player back in the day but have difficulty transitioning to the role of coach, especially a youth soccer coach. It's great to have all that knowledge of the game, but if you don't know how to relate it to a youth team, what good is it? They should have better training for coaches on how to work with kids and what type of reinforcement gets the best result.
                      Finally a valid argument. It is usually the case that the best coaches were not the best players. The best players are too absorbed with themselves to care about learning the game well enough to teach anyone else but themselves. Generally what worked for them doesn't even translate well for anyone else. This is true in all sports, the Bill Belicheks of the world were often terrible players but spent much of their youth and grown life around the game. If you make the mistake of thinking a coaches playing resume has anything to do with their ability to coach you will be sorry you did.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I've been the poster who's been crapping on RI, and I really want to see RI succeed.

                        The fact that RI is small really should not be a factor. There are plenty of players. The problem is the best tend to leave. And the other problem is the clubs in RI really don't, in my opinion, have a good foundation of coaching and progressive thinking.

                        RI is the second most densely populated state in the US. There are enough kids in the Providence region to make it work.

                        And good clubs will attract Mass kids. There isn't a ton right over the border for kids to do.

                        People are voting with their wallets right now. Talented players walk right out of RI and many times well out of their way to Mass clubs. Some play in CT. Some come to RI, and leave shortly after.

                        There needs to be a strong DOC, has to bring in strong coaches, not just in 1 or 2 age groups, and has to break free of the RI mentality that being RI state champs isn't good enough.
                        If you want to see things get better, stop crapping all over the progress that has been made in recent years. In the last couple years, RI has actually outperformed Mass teams in the 13-16 age groups at Regionals - results like this is what will get emerging RI players to stay here and not look to FC Stars/NEFC options.

                        Connecticut still outperforms all the New England states but most RI players don't migrate to CT teams.

                        I agree coaching is important but most is driven by parents wanting to give their kid the best chance to be succesful - FC Stars and Scorps are known brands and parents feel comfortable with it (kind of like never getting fired buying IBM).

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If you want to see things get better, stop crapping all over the progress that has been made in recent years. In the last couple years, RI has actually outperformed Mass teams in the 13-16 age groups at Regionals - results like this is what will get emerging RI players to stay here and not look to FC Stars/NEFC options.

                          Connecticut still outperforms all the New England states but most RI players don't migrate to CT teams.

                          I agree coaching is important but most is driven by parents wanting to give their kid the best chance to be succesful - FC Stars and Scorps are known brands and parents feel comfortable with it (kind of like never getting fired buying IBM).
                          A lot of truth to both posts. I walked away from RI and took my kid to MA, and now playing for one of the aforementioned teams. When I first realized my kid was developing is when she was 10/11. She played for a horrible team and a horrible coach in RI. I could not see my kid developing under this coach and took my services else where. She plays for a great organization now, and skills continue to improve. I'm not saying that my kid is great, all I'm saying is she has potential to be good, and I couldn't she her developing her skills on some of these premiere teams/coaches in RI. My opinion, RI needs to form one or two premiere teams!!!

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If you want to see things get better, stop crapping all over the progress that has been made in recent years. In the last couple years, RI has actually outperformed Mass teams in the 13-16 age groups at Regionals - results like this is what will get emerging RI players to stay here and not look to FC Stars/NEFC options.

                            Connecticut still outperforms all the New England states but most RI players don't migrate to CT teams.

                            I agree coaching is important but most is driven by parents wanting to give their kid the best chance to be succesful - FC Stars and Scorps are known brands and parents feel comfortable with it (kind of like never getting fired buying IBM).
                            Does anyone know how many ECNL teams were at regional's or participated in their state cups?

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                              One of the problem in RI premier soccer is the buddy system on the younger team. too many teams where parent show up as a group and the whole group plays or they go elsewhere. Works okay in U10 and U11 but then when the coach wants to keep the better player from the group they are usually forced to keep the lesser one also or risk having the team blow up. Weaker player tend to stick on a team due to the better player from their same town.

                              Bayside has many regional cup team because we don't do this. If better players want to walk because we cut there friend then we let them walk. Teams need to have the best player from a tryout and we do and that why our club is the best in the state. We only take the best and we dont care who has an friend. Blackwatch, Tidal Wave and Bruno all have team built with the buddy system and the result show it from the state cup

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                One of the problem in RI premier soccer is the buddy system on the younger team. too many teams where parent show up as a group and the whole group plays or they go elsewhere. Works okay in U10 and U11 but then when the coach wants to keep the better player from the group they are usually forced to keep the lesser one also or risk having the team blow up. Weaker player tend to stick on a team due to the better player from their same town.

                                Bayside has many regional cup team because we don't do this. If better players want to walk because we cut there friend then we let them walk. Teams need to have the best player from a tryout and we do and that why our club is the best in the state. We only take the best and we dont care who has an friend. Blackwatch, Tidal Wave and Bruno all have team built with the buddy system and the result show it from the state cup
                                So true!!! Many also let sub standard players on their teams to raise the profit margin, that's why there is a huge turn over every year!

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