2012 Girls High School Thread

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Another brilliant move. 2nd in division - lost in the Semi's - And then moved up to DI. Bottom 3rd in DI for sure.

1. Two (2) years between realignment. Starting Fall 2012-2014
No appeals or movement between realignment
2. Formula
70% win/loss over past eight (8) years
30% enrollment
Division win weights:
• Division I = 1.0
• Division II = .60
• Division III = .36
• Division IV = .22

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1. Two (2) years between realignment. Starting Fall 2012-2014
No appeals or movement between realignment
2. Formula
70% win/loss over past eight (8) years
30% enrollment
Division win weights:
• Division I = 1.0
• Division II = .60
• Division III = .36
• Division IV = .22

thanks--but what are the final divisions look like?

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1. Two (2) years between realignment. Starting Fall 2012-2014
No appeals or movement between realignment
2. Formula
70% win/loss over past eight (8) years
30% enrollment
Division win weights:
• Division I = 1.0
• Division II = .60
• Division III = .36
• Division IV = .22

Typical that the RIIL folks only think about past performance as a proxy for future performance. For some schools, this may be okay, but look at how one or two good classes with just a few dominant players (as noted by another poster) can affect a team's performance.

Same with enrollment; soccer only requires 3-4 standout players along with 8-10 complementary players; not like football.

Why make it so complicated?

First, get rid of the geographic sub-groups within a Division. Each team plays each other once, alternating home/away over a 2 year cycle.

Top team is RI Division "X" State Champ.

Top 8 teams in D1, top 4 teams in D2, and top 2 teams in D3/D4 play in a 16 team tournament at end of season (using games saved by eliminating 2d match against the sub-group opponent in some cases) to determine an overall RI State Champ.

After 2 years, 3 teams with the lowest combined 2 year record against opponents in the Division *and* sub-.500 record over 2 years for JV teams get moved down (D1/D2/D3) and replaced by (in order) top teams from next division down.

Take EWG -- awesome Varsity record last few years in D2; .500 record I think in JV last year. Will see if that indicates a change at the top of D2 in the future. Overall point though is RIIL could be setting up a system of rewarding past performance when the goal or realignment should be to project forward the most competitive divisions.

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Typical that the RIIL folks only think about past performance as a proxy for future performance. For some schools, this may be okay, but look at how one or two good classes with just a few dominant players (as noted by another poster) can affect a team's performance.

Same with enrollment; soccer only requires 3-4 standout players along with 8-10 complementary players; not like football.

Why make it so complicated?

First, get rid of the geographic sub-groups within a Division. Each team plays each other once, alternating home/away over a 2 year cycle.

Top team is RI Division "X" State Champ.

Top 8 teams in D1, top 4 teams in D2, and top 2 teams in D3/D4 play in a 16 team tournament at end of season (using games saved by eliminating 2d match against the sub-group opponent in some cases) to determine an overall RI State Champ.

After 2 years, 3 teams with the lowest combined 2 year record against opponents in the Division *and* sub-.500 record over 2 years for JV teams get moved down (D1/D2/D3) and replaced by (in order) top teams from next division down.

Take EWG -- awesome Varsity record last few years in D2; .500 record I think in JV last year. Will see if that indicates a change at the top of D2 in the future. Overall point though is RIIL could be setting up a system of rewarding past performance when the goal or realignment should be to project forward the most competitive divisions.

There will be a change at the top of D2 this year--Pilgrim vs MSC for the crown.

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Typical that the RIIL folks only think about past performance as a proxy for future performance. For some schools, this may be okay, but look at how one or two good classes with just a few dominant players (as noted by another poster) can affect a team's performance.

Same with enrollment; soccer only requires 3-4 standout players along with 8-10 complementary players; not like football.

Why make it so complicated?

First, get rid of the geographic sub-groups within a Division. Each team plays each other once, alternating home/away over a 2 year cycle.

Top team is RI Division "X" State Champ.

Top 8 teams in D1, top 4 teams in D2, and top 2 teams in D3/D4 play in a 16 team tournament at end of season (using games saved by eliminating 2d match against the sub-group opponent in some cases) to determine an overall RI State Champ.

After 2 years, 3 teams with the lowest combined 2 year record against opponents in the Division *and* sub-.500 record over 2 years for JV teams get moved down (D1/D2/D3) and replaced by (in order) top teams from next division down.

Take EWG -- awesome Varsity record last few years in D2; .500 record I think in JV last year. Will see if that indicates a change at the top of D2 in the future. Overall point though is RIIL could be setting up a system of rewarding past performance when the goal or realignment should be to project forward the most competitive divisions.

Top freshmen and certainly sophmores from smaller schools are forced into varsity positions so looking at JV records isn't always an indication of what's coming up in the queue. A school with a varsity team loaded with very good freshman and sophmores may have no one any good left on JV.

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Lasalle should win Division 1 crown again.

Not likely this year. They were going to settle back into mediocrity anyways with the loss of the twins - now with the loss of MS in the middle they become like every other D1 school with a couple decent RI premier players.

Overall there will be a lot of parity across the D1 teams - should be a very competitive and entertaining season.

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My dark horse is Prout - mids and defense are strong. If they get another forward to go with the all-stater they could surprise a lot of people.

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51 days to the start of pre-season it is going to be interesting.

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51 days to the start of pre-season it is going to be interesting.

I hope you have something interesting to do until then......

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<<My dark horse is Prout - mids and defense are strong. If they get another forward to go with the all-stater they could surprise a lot of people.>>

Heard the all-stater was done when she tore ACL again before state championships per her father. Unless something has changed their mind since then....

IMO there will be much more parity this year, but LSA is still stacked with talent.

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<<My dark horse is Prout - mids and defense are strong. If they get another forward to go with the all-stater they could surprise a lot of people.>>

Heard the all-stater was done when she tore ACL again before state championships per her father. Unless something has changed their mind since then....

IMO there will be much more parity this year, but LSA is still stacked with talent.

All both of the teams need is a coach

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Yes we @ LS sure miss JA, rest his soul. Such a great coach and person....he used to ask when the girls would be playing in the Spring and he would actually show up and cheer them on for State Cup, etc. My daughter is blessed to have known him...

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<<My dark horse is Prout - mids and defense are strong. If they get another forward to go with the all-stater they could surprise a lot of people.>>

Heard the all-stater was done when she tore ACL again before state championships per her father. Unless something has changed their mind since then....

IMO there will be much more parity this year, but LSA is still stacked with talent.

LSA is also dealing with ACL issues as well this season.

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Has the new alignments for the fall been released?

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from the riil june newletter on the website:

GIRLS

DIVISION I
La Salle
Barrington
South Kingstown
Cumberland
North Kingstown
Cranston West
Coventry
Portsmouth
East Greenwich
Toll Gate
Smithfield
Mt. Hope
Prout
Warwick Vets
St. Mary-Bay View

DIVISION II
Lincoln
Mount St. Charles
Pilgrim
Cranston East
Scituate
Tiverton
Exeter /W. Greenwich
Classical
Westerly
East Providence
Ponaganset
Burrillville
Johnston
North Smithfield
Narragansett

DIVISION III-A
North Providence
Middletown
Tolman
St. Raphael
Woonsocket
West Warwick
Chariho
Moses Brown

DIVISION III-B
Shea
Hope
Central
Rogers
Central Falls
Mt. Pleasant
Masters Regional
Davies
Bishop Keough