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    high school soccer another look

    http://www.socceramerica.com/article...ol-soccer.html

    #2
    I would buy into Mr. Barr's agrument if all High School coaches in RI are qualified to coach in the first place. Many coaches in RI got their coaching gigs because it is written in their union contract that coaching vacancy are offer inhouse first. I can tell you that my daughter's coaches are horrible. They have no clue about the game. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Some year, the team are lucky enough because few premier players are on the team and they seen to do better.

    Yes, I agreed that HS soccer is suppose to be fun because they get to socialize with their friends and not worry too much about the next player taking over their spot. What Mr.Barr don't realize is that he benefited greatly from the explosion of club soccer. Ask MP at LaSalle Acaedemy what he think about the academy rule and I bet he would agree with Mr.Barr. HS soccer will be fun next year.

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      #3
      (1) The DA is a very small percentage of the population; so what is the truly elite get taken off the top? (Same with ECNL if it goes that route on the girls side). From a RI standpoint, it will (although really not that many kids so maybe not) either reduce the advantages a school like LaSalle has (oh, right, they don't recruit elite players) or take down a town school that is lucky to have/retain an elite player in the public system.

      (2) It's a big laughable the author's point about DA games and high school games in terms of competitiveness. I love watching the middle school and high school playoffs, but I don't confuse competitiveness of a match within a certain level with competitiveness of a match at a higher level.

      (3) Coaches - again a bit of a broad brush..but as long as union contracts, varying degrees of AD competence, and a difference between USSF and NHFS standards for coaching exist, there will be, just from sheer numbers and other factors, more bad coaching in high schools. Maybe there is a correlation between where DA players go to school and good coaching because how many DA players end up at private schools, which have less restrictive coaching hiring policies.

      Perhaps if more states go the way of Virginia, which just eliminated the "no coaching of your players in the off-season" rule, then you may get more high school teams staying together under the same coach in the off-season (great for local clubs)..which would mean the elite players wouldn't be part of that as well.

      I do agree there is great value in playing with your friends and representing your schools (and even regionals were not as exciting from a crowd/fan/spirit perspective as the MS championship games played in Middletown this year) -- but it's an inevitable outcome of trying to make the US national program more like European ones.

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        #4
        How many RI players even participate in the DAP?

        A lot of generalities in the argument, little in the way of fact.

        In my opinion, that article sucks.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How many RI players even participate in the DAP?

          A lot of generalities in the argument, little in the way of fact.

          In my opinion, that article sucks.
          You want fact, you can't handle the fact. LaSalle has 4-5 DA players.

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            #6
            WW has 1 Freshman Pre-DAP slated for DA next season

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              #7
              Right..so I doubt you'll hear much sympathy from the rest of the state for LaSalle..even less so if ECNL does the same for girls

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                How many RI players even participate in the DAP?

                A lot of generalities in the argument, little in the way of fact.

                In my opinion, that article sucks.
                St Rays may lose 2...that is huge for a small school !!

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                  #9
                  isn't St Ray's a Football Program? I keep hearing that there program is getting better. which I'm not surprised, it's a private school, they always get the players..

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    isn't St Ray's a Football Program? I keep hearing that there program is getting better. which I'm not surprised, it's a private school, they always get the players..
                    St Rays has 2 players that will be jrs next year. Both have been starting and carrying the team since their freshman year. Problem is that if both those players go DAP than they will not be able to play HS which would dramatically change the look of that team. Their cm set up most of the goals against EWG in the playoffs. The jr forward has been one of the leading goal scorers in the league.

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                      #11
                      Saints is a football school, whocares!!!
                      they haven't won anything, those kids are better off.

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                        #12
                        off topic, but in HS soccer talk, the new Soccer RI webpage has a big error on its page. It shows EWG coach of girls soccer getting NATIONAL award--actaully they meant to say new england coach of the year as reported here:

                        http://www.nscaa.com/news/2011/12/20...es-of-the-year

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                          #13
                          He did win national girls high school coach of the year. Before you post get all your facts straight, yes he did win NE region COY and then won National go to nscaa website and you will see it posted there also.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            He did win national girls high school coach of the year. Before you post get all your facts straight, yes he did win NE region COY and then won National go to nscaa website and you will see it posted there also.
                            From the NSCAA website--National Coaches of the Year:

                            Girls Division II – Kevin Fraser, Exeter-West Greenwich High School (R.I.)
                            Fraser led his team to a record of 21-0 and a successful defense of their Division II championship. They did it on the strength of a defense that allowed only nine goals all season. They also were productive on the offensive end, finding the net 107 times, an average of five goals per game.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              From the NSCAA website--National Coaches of the Year:

                              Girls Division II – Kevin Fraser, Exeter-West Greenwich High School (R.I.)
                              Fraser led his team to a record of 21-0 and a successful defense of their Division II championship. They did it on the strength of a defense that allowed only nine goals all season. They also were productive on the offensive end, finding the net 107 times, an average of five goals per game.
                              nefver would have happend if EWG was D1

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