MPS invading RI????

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If they grease the right palms in the right way it may just so happen. The problem lies in the fact that the towns and cities do not want club soccer period. Here is an example, the high school coach in our town believes club is a joke yet all the club players make up 80 percent of the varsity team and the rest of the town players are on JV getting smoked. The best thing about this is he believes those players are where they are because of him! This is from a a guy who never played anything but rec soccer. He would rather see those kids on the varsity team run track rather than play with there club in the spring. What is wrong with this picture? That time with there club team IS his coaching as most of the kids are far above the level he can coach to. I say let the club in they are well established and will bring some much needed diversity in this stagnant state.

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They should go on probation for year. Their probation is that they volunteer for a year at the u6 and u8 level for some town prgrams of their choice .Work with the coaches and the kids and not take a penny.

If they see something they like like young talent they get first choice over the other clubs and offer scholarships especially to kids from Central Falls ,Providence and Pawtucket.


how about really helping rhode island and not taking parents money from East Greenwich and all the other rich towns.

It great to have a business model that helps their pockets how about a business model that will help the state of soccer in the US

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It great to have a business model that helps their pockets how about a business model that will help the state of soccer in the US

Well said

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Well said

Well said ?????

You've got to be kidding. Volunteer for a year?????

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They should go on probation for year. Their probation is that they volunteer for a year at the u6 and u8 level for some town prgrams of their choice .Work with the coaches and the kids and not take a penny.

If they see something they like like young talent they get first choice over the other clubs and offer scholarships especially to kids from Central Falls ,Providence and Pawtucket.


how about really helping rhode island and not taking parents money from East Greenwich and all the other rich towns.

It great to have a business model that helps their pockets how about a business model that will help the state of soccer in the US

Unfortunate there are no talents outside of Central Falls, Providence and Pawtucket. But don't mind taking some $$$$ from EG and other rich towns in order to get the best players RI has to offer.

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They use a franchise model. Best hope is to convince a lower tier premier club to partner (MPS brings cheap coaches and administration; existing club brings SRI membership and infrastructure) -- hard model when most of the premier clubs are affiliated with college coaching programs.

Other hope is to partner with a bigger town program and MPS takes over the travel program -- in theory, MPS could bring coaching (eliminate the parent coach/ team formation issues) and spillover with recreation program. Town program already is in SRI so no need to get membership (name change might be an issue, but they could do something like the old URI Fortuna teams did with Jamestown).

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They use a franchise model. Best hope is to convince a lower tier premier club to partner (MPS brings cheap coaches and administration; existing club brings SRI membership and infrastructure) -- hard model when most of the premier clubs are affiliated with college coaching programs.

Other hope is to partner with a bigger town program and MPS takes over the travel program -- in theory, MPS could bring coaching (eliminate the parent coach/ team formation issues) and spillover with recreation program. Town program already is in SRI so no need to get membership (name change might be an issue, but they could do something like the old URI Fortuna teams did with Jamestown).

Problem is a town association is not a premier club and they will have to abide by the three town rule until U14. Impossible to have a true premier program with three-town rosters.

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Problem is a town association is not a premier club and they will have to abide by the three town rule until U14. Impossible to have a true premier program with three-town rosters.

Because everyone knows it's the players that make the teams not the coaches. Wouldn't it be something to see these paid coaches actually doing something within the constraints of the 3-town rule.

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Because everyone knows it's the players that make the teams not the coaches. Wouldn't it be something to see these paid coaches actually doing something within the constraints of the 3-town rule.

Good point, but would still be hard to compete outside of RI

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Because everyone knows it's the players that make the teams not the coaches. Wouldn't it be something to see these paid coaches actually doing something within the constraints of the 3-town rule.

Not a god point. Coaching has a huge impact on the development of soccer players. And isn't this thread about a business coming to RI? All this bizarre talk about giving their time to help the RI soccer community just makes my head hurt.

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Will never happen, they need to get voted in to be a RI Premier team

Why do they care and why do they needed to be voted in as a premier team?
First, it is about getting as many families to join the club and pay the money...business

Second, it is about training the kids....development

Third, MPS has always collected 100s of players, formed teams and then played against themselves in their own leagues. Why don't you think they can start that way?

Fourth, they will infiltrate into the NEP to gain status....afterall, they partly own it.

Fifth, how hard do you think it will be to challenge the local RI teams. There are very few quality clubs....actually two...Bruno and Bayside. These two clubs are leaps and bounds above the rest. Do you really think that MPS could not put themselves in between the top two and the bottom dwellers below?? Do you think that Barrington RI Soccer Club will keep MPS from being successful???

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"Problem is a town association is not a premier club and they will have to abide by the three town rule until U14. Impossible to have a true premier program with three-town rosters. "


SRI has some very problematic issues when it comes to the community rule. Your interpretation is a common one, but look at the poorly constructed sections in the SRI P&PM.

Yes, premier clubs are exempt. However, to be a premier player, you don't only have to be with a premier club -- 1202.1 Premier Player "means a player registered to an SRI Premier Club or a player registered to a team that participates in a league considered a premier league.

To be a premier team, you only have to be in a premier league - 1219 Premier Team means a team that participates in a Premier League.

There is no rule that *only* premier clubs can have premier teams -- in fact, there is the ironic language that there are some "premier players" on "premier clubs" who are not (technically) on premier teams (unless I'm wrong in assuming MASC is not a premier league).

Note it does not say (unless I am missing it) that premier teams can only come from premier clubs.

Now add the fact that SRI recognizes that a premier league is one that has no roster restrictions (except the ones mandated by age/gender or perhaps multiple rostering) -- that means any team accepted into a recognized premier league has achieved premier team status and logically can not be held accountable to the geographic limitations.

1226 Premier League means an inter-club league in which no rules restricts the manner in
which players may be rostered to participating teams

Given SRI has already allowed some town associations to have premier teams by the fact these clubs have had teams participate in MAPLE, it would be problematic without amending the rules for SRIL to deny town association "X" to have teams in MAPLE/NEP and/or hold the rosters of those "premier teams" to the community rule.

Hence, all MPS would have to do is partner with a club (or two) and have one travel component that participates in premier leagues -- would not require any vote.

Also, note how the rule - 3213 Geographic Limitations: Under the community rule" is never really clarified outside the rule it is mentioned. Meaning, nowhere in the P&PM can you find the term "community rule" outside of 3213. In fact, SRI could, if it really wanted to "raise the bar" of RI competitive soccer, make the teams registered in RI, regardless of status, play in RI leagues unless accepted by a recognized premier league -- make the premier clubs in MASC for example play in SuperLiga -- then you might find more kids would stay with their town clubs (and more money for SuperLiga!!).

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"Problem is a town association is not a premier club and they will have to abide by the three town rule until U14. Impossible to have a true premier program with three-town rosters. "


SRI has some very problematic issues when it comes to the community rule. Your interpretation is a common one, but look at the poorly constructed sections in the SRI P&PM.

Yes, premier clubs are exempt. However, to be a premier player, you don't only have to be with a premier club -- 1202.1 Premier Player "means a player registered to an SRI Premier Club or a player registered to a team that participates in a league considered a premier league.

To be a premier team, you only have to be in a premier league - 1219 Premier Team means a team that participates in a Premier League.

There is no rule that *only* premier clubs can have premier teams -- in fact, there is the ironic language that there are some "premier players" on "premier clubs" who are not (technically) on premier teams (unless I'm wrong in assuming MASC is not a premier league).

Note it does not say (unless I am missing it) that premier teams can only come from premier clubs.

Now add the fact that SRI recognizes that a premier league is one that has no roster restrictions (except the ones mandated by age/gender or perhaps multiple rostering) -- that means any team accepted into a recognized premier league has achieved premier team status and logically can not be held accountable to the geographic limitations.

1226 Premier League means an inter-club league in which no rules restricts the manner in
which players may be rostered to participating teams

Given SRI has already allowed some town associations to have premier teams by the fact these clubs have had teams participate in MAPLE, it would be problematic without amending the rules for SRIL to deny town association "X" to have teams in MAPLE/NEP and/or hold the rosters of those "premier teams" to the community rule.

Hence, all MPS would have to do is partner with a club (or two) and have one travel component that participates in premier leagues -- would not require any vote.

Also, note how the rule - 3213 Geographic Limitations: Under the community rule" is never really clarified outside the rule it is mentioned. Meaning, nowhere in the P&PM can you find the term "community rule" outside of 3213. In fact, SRI could, if it really wanted to "raise the bar" of RI competitive soccer, make the teams registered in RI, regardless of status, play in RI leagues unless accepted by a recognized premier league -- make the premier clubs in MASC for example play in SuperLiga -- then you might find more kids would stay with their town clubs (and more money for SuperLiga!!).

All true and I've dealt with this issue already trying to roster a "premier" town team to compete in MAPLE and having to follow the three community rule. One definition contradicts another and SRI knows about this. The bottom line is that they will continue to protect the premier teams and that will never change until they are legally challenged. MPS may just be the people with the hutzpah to do that. From my experience, SRI will allow you to get a waiver of the three town rule to compete in MAPLE, but will not grant the waiver for State Cup. Wouldn't want a lowly town "premier" team to show up a real "premier" team. There should be no members on the BOARD OF SRI that directly profit $$ from the decisions of SRI. Period. End of Story! but that's not likely to change anytime soon.

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All true and I've dealt with this issue already trying to roster a "premier" town team to compete in MAPLE and having to follow the three community rule. One definition contradicts another and SRI knows about this. The bottom line is that they will continue to protect the premier teams and that will never change until they are legally challenged. MPS may just be the people with the hutzpah to do that. From my experience, SRI will allow you to get a waiver of the three town rule to compete in MAPLE, but will not grant the waiver for State Cup. Wouldn't want a lowly town "premier" team to show up a real "premier" team. There should be no members on the BOARD OF SRI that directly profit $$ from the decisions of SRI. Period. End of Story! but that's not likely to change anytime soon.

SRI could care less about the current premier clubs. They use to because of the Rays but the Rays are long dead. The problem is not with the premier clubs but local clubs wanting to protect their turfs. As a parent if you unhappy then do something about at your local club.

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Think it works both ways.. Some towns see it as a way to keep other programs from drawing off their kids and OD gets more team$ for SL.. premier clubs see it as granting a form of distinction and a draw for the parents (why stay with your town program/team when it can never attract a full squad of talented kids like Suzy).

Simple solutions --

Get more like minded people in the town programs to be in charge and simply change the sentence in 3213 to read "premier teams" are exempt vice "premier clubs." Add a quid pro quo of no waivers for 3 town rule since the town club would now have the option of rostering that team in a premier league (if it can -- but at this rate, some of the top SL Anchor teams could compete in MAPLE 3).