More youth soccer bs paperwork....our RI club is playing in a tournament in Mass this weekend? Why do we have to submit "permission to travel" papers? What purpose does this form have?
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Is the form to ask SRI for permission to travel? If so, has any team every been denied "permission", and why? If not, then it appears to be one more hassle that teams have to go through.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIs the form to ask SRI for permission to travel? If so, has any team every been denied "permission", and why? If not, then it appears to be one more hassle that teams have to go through.
I don't know if any club has ever been denied, but I doubt it - why would they be?
Is this really a necessary exercise? You should see the pile of paperwork we're required to bring just to play; passcards, releases, medical releases, certified roster, and permission to travel form. Ridiculous!
I've taken countless baseball, basketball and indoor soccer teams to countless tournaments. Never had to do much more than submit a roster, have copies of birth certificates available if requested and been good to go. How come every other youth sport seems to survive without all the paperwork that soccer requires?
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Worthless paperwork
Again, no one can explain the purpose/value/reason for the "permission to travel" form.
I'm beginning to think that the crew running SRI just likes wasting our time.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgain, no one can explain the purpose/value/reason for the "permission to travel" form.
I'm beginning to think that the crew running SRI just likes wasting our time.
There is a reason for all the paperwork. I am not part of SRI but much of it seems easy enough to follow. A good portion is to insure fair play. Some is for the safety of our kids. The "Permision To Travel" form I would guess is related to liability insurance.
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SRI insurance policy
2. Our General Liability insurance covers all players, coaches, administrators and volunteers for $1,000,000.00/incident and additional catastrophic liability protection of $4,000,000.00 in the aggregate: Coverage starts on your way to and from a sanctioned event (practice, game, meeting, etc.) The key word is sanctioned. Our policy does not cover us if we compete against another team which does not have liability coverage as well. Even if the other team (which does not have coverage) is competing at a sanctioned event, our coverage would be null and void. This is why it is very important that Soccer Rhode Island and the other state offices across the country make sure that practices, games, tournaments, etc. all have the proper paperwork. (i.e. player passes, signed and stamped state rosters, permission to travel forms, etc.) The state office is doing its best to make sure all players are registered and rostered properly so that everyone is covered by insurance.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post2. Our General Liability insurance covers all players, coaches, administrators and volunteers for $1,000,000.00/incident and additional catastrophic liability protection of $4,000,000.00 in the aggregate: Coverage starts on your way to and from a sanctioned event (practice, game, meeting, etc.) The key word is sanctioned. Our policy does not cover us if we compete against another team which does not have liability coverage as well. Even if the other team (which does not have coverage) is competing at a sanctioned event, our coverage would be null and void. This is why it is very important that Soccer Rhode Island and the other state offices across the country make sure that practices, games, tournaments, etc. all have the proper paperwork. (i.e. player passes, signed and stamped state rosters, permission to travel forms, etc.) The state office is doing its best to make sure all players are registered and rostered properly so that everyone is covered by insurance.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post2. Our General Liability insurance covers all players, coaches, administrators and volunteers for $1,000,000.00/incident and additional catastrophic liability protection of $4,000,000.00 in the aggregate: Coverage starts on your way to and from a sanctioned event (practice, game, meeting, etc.) The key word is sanctioned. Our policy does not cover us if we compete against another team which does not have liability coverage as well. Even if the other team (which does not have coverage) is competing at a sanctioned event, our coverage would be null and void. This is why it is very important that Soccer Rhode Island and the other state offices across the country make sure that practices, games, tournaments, etc. all have the proper paperwork. (i.e. player passes, signed and stamped state rosters, permission to travel forms, etc.) The state office is doing its best to make sure all players are registered and rostered properly so that everyone is covered by insurance.
As a point of reference, SRI and USYSA should take a look at AAU's liability insurance. For as little as $14 per year, AAU insurance covers its clubs, teams, players and coaches WHERE EVER they play, WHO EVER they play - even if the other team does not have any coverage at all. The excess liability coverage of AAU insurance covers up to $9 million per occurance. Same $1m/incident coverage as SRI. I wonder why soccer coverage is only good for sanctioned events playing against sanctioned teams?
I also find it interesting that Little League Baseball, USA Basketball, AHAUS hockey, PONY Baseball, AAU etc. all have the same insurance issues as USYSA/SRI soccer, but don't require near the same amount of paperwork for tournament play nor league play.
It just seems to me that a lot of unnecessary paperwork could be eliminated from the youth soccer world.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGreat answer. I makes more sense to me now. Sort of.
As a point of reference, SRI and USYSA should take a look at AAU's liability insurance. For as little as $14 per year, AAU insurance covers its clubs, teams, players and coaches WHERE EVER they play, WHO EVER they play - even if the other team does not have any coverage at all. The excess liability coverage of AAU insurance covers up to $9 million per occurance. Same $1m/incident coverage as SRI. I wonder why soccer coverage is only good for sanctioned events playing against sanctioned teams?
I also find it interesting that Little League Baseball, USA Basketball, AHAUS hockey, PONY Baseball, AAU etc. all have the same insurance issues as USYSA/SRI soccer, but don't require near the same amount of paperwork for tournament play nor league play.
It just seems to me that a lot of unnecessary paperwork could be eliminated from the youth soccer world.
I'm guessing that the people running soccer are Lawyers, Insurance executives or both.
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;388575]I'm guessing that the people running soccer are Lawyers, Insurance executives or both.[/QUOTE
Ahh, but you forget there are apparently rogue soccer teams roaming about without proper paperwork or insurance seeking to nullify other's policies while simultaneously engaging in rough unfair play to cause injuries to players from clubs who follow the rules, thus creating actuarial chaos!
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;388604]Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm guessing that the people running soccer are Lawyers, Insurance executives or both.[/QUOTE
Ahh, but you forget there are apparently rogue soccer teams roaming about without proper paperwork or insurance seeking to nullify other's policies while simultaneously engaging in rough unfair play to cause injuries to players from clubs who follow the rules, thus creating actuarial chaos!
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