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There are plenty ways to break this tie. Many use the following but remember this is High School where a win is 2 points. So who knows...

1. Number of Wins
2. Goal Difference
3. Goals Scored

It doesn't look like RIIL has the rules in place to break ties. In D1 boys the eighth seed is between Cumberland and Chariho. They are tied in points and number of wins. Cumberland beat Chariho head to head but it looks like there is a game set-up to break the tie. Yuk!

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It doesn't look like RIIL has the rules in place to break ties. In D1 boys the eighth seed is between Cumberland and Chariho. They are tied in points and number of wins. Cumberland beat Chariho head to head but it looks like there is a game set-up to break the tie. Yuk!

Insult to INjury, Chariho wins on PK's last night.

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Tie Breakers?

Insult to INjury, Chariho wins on PK's last night.

Ouch!

I hope they have a better plan for the girls program. In D1 there could be a tie for 3rd. In D2 the top 3 teams are tied and the 4th and 5th teams are tied.

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I don't know how applicable this system would be in RI as I'm unaware of the rules about scheduling "non-league" games.

However, in the state I played HS ball, the state committee had a formula for seeding - an index system that awards points for positive results (five points for a road win, four for a home win, three for a road tie, two for a home tie and none for a loss) and averages the per game total in case a school did not play the max allowable games.

It tried to give incentives for away wins, instead of relying on goal differential, as the state did not have as many teams as RI so the teams had to schedule some games against teams from other divisions. So, you could keep "rivalry" games between schools of different sizes that were in close proximity, but also encourage the larger schools to play their peer schools from different leagues. There used to be an "adjustment" factor (- 1/2 pt) if the win was against a team from a lower division; however, with budget cutbacks, they eliminated the adjustment factor so teams did not have to travel as far.

Not without its flaws, but the state cutback the number of regular season games to allow for a greater number of teams in the post-season tournament. It did eliminate the confusion when several teams has similar records instead of relying on goal differential or head to head when you had a "A beat B, B beat C, but C beat A" scenario.

-COL

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Preseason opener Apopka vs Bishop Moore 11-01

Apopka girls not playing up to their full potential, but still crush Bishop Moore 3-0.

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Apopka girls not playing up to their full potential, but still crush Bishop Moore 3-0.

Thanks Florida Guy!

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Rumor has it that RIIL is going to use points scored as the tiebreaker for setting up the brackets

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Rumor has it that RIIL is going to use points scored as the tiebreaker for setting up the brackets

If so....

EWG
Pilgrim
Lincoln
Tiverton
Ponagansett
MSC
North Smithfield
Mt Hope

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If so....

EWG
Pilgrim
Lincoln
Tiverton
Ponagansett
MSC
North Smithfield
Mt Hope

I still think RIIL is going to place Pilgrim as first seed. They must be planning to use some other criteria than points scored.

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If so....

EWG
Pilgrim
Lincoln
Tiverton
Ponagansett
MSC
North Smithfield
Mt Hope

THis is the correct list and should be on the RIIL website shortly. Points scored is the decider.

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THis is the correct list and should be on the RIIL website shortly. Points scored is the decider.

And now for the ret of the story:

EWG
Lincoln
Pilgrim
Ponaganset
Tiverton
MSC
North Smithfield
Mt Hope

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Will it make a difference

Probably won't make any difference in the end .... but ....

Pilgrim beat and then tied EWG. In my mind that puts Pilgrim on top or EWG. The smartest way to break a tie is, (who beat who - in division) and then to compare the Ratio of (Goals for) and (Goals against) Interdivisionaly. Breaking a tie by using either stat by itself doesn't really tell you the strength of the team.

What RIIL needs to do is have a defined tie breaking rule. Period.

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Probably won't make any difference in the end .... but ....

Pilgrim beat and then tied EWG. In my mind that puts Pilgrim on top or EWG. The smartest way to break a tie is, (who beat who - in division) and then to compare the Ratio of (Goals for) and (Goals against) Interdivisionaly. Breaking a tie by using either stat by itself doesn't really tell you the strength of the team.

What RIIL needs to do is have a defined tie breaking rule. Period.

Agreed. It is difficult to determine what factors actally went into the final seeding decision.

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Realign Girls Divisions

This is a subject I brought up early in the season and in the end the picture is even more clear.

Because the divisions have nothing to do with school size, RIIL needs to set up a system where the teams that are either too dominant or too weak get moved for the following season. This year the new alignment seemed to have too much political involvement. And it was obvious what was going to and what did happen to a number of teams. The top of D3 just looks stupid!

I would like to see:

Bottom 3 D2 go to D3
Top 3 D3 go to D2
Top 3 D2 go to D1
Bottom 3 D1 go to D2

The chances of a small town public school always being able to compete in d1 is not that likely. But if they do get a group of excellent athletes, then you need to move them up right away. If you wait 3-4 years then all those good players will graduate and the team is likely to return to what they were before. The same thing can happen to a big town team.

IMO it is wrong to either leave a team to languish in a division that is too tough or allow a strong team to just crush and embarrass all the other teams.

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Agreed. It is difficult to determine what factors actually went into the final seeding decision.

I think there might have been a coin involved!