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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Sorry, cant say .... would be a dead giveaway ... so few kids leave ECNL even though it would be prudent for most (starters and bench players). It is surprising to me that so many players stay on really bad teams thinking they are getting something good.
    Totally agree - blinded by the patch, and bragging rights to say my little Mia plays on an ECNL team. As if anyone really cares.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Ranked #92 in the country on youthsoccerrankings.us

      That’s far from a joke. Why bash 13 year old girls? That’s not being a tough guy.
      Doesn’t seem like the poster is bashing the girls but rather the coaching staff and management. It is run completely like a rec team.

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        The whole club is run like a rec club, but the ECNL patch carries a lot of weight.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Someone mentioned NL as a good league, far from it if you compare with ECNL and DA which are far superior in quality top to bottom. Reality is that a top level NL team would struggle competing against lower level ECNL and DA teams. Not sure why some people are so enamored with NL it’s basically EDP with another fancy national name on it.
          Please put the crack down .... most of GDA were in leagues like NL just 2 years ago and many still suck. Plenty of terribly ECNL teams too ... you need to get over yourself and your leagues. Plenty of good teams in neither.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Ranked #92 in the country on youthsoccerrankings.us

            That’s far from a joke. Why bash 13 year old girls? That’s not being a tough guy.
            Ranking only means anything when you directly compare it to the rankings of the teams we actually play against. Yes, we are ranked better than many local rec clubs, as we should be. But when compared with our "peers" other ECNL teams, particularly those in the Northeast, we are right in the middle, or slightly below the middle - and he have either lost or tied most of the teams that are ranked below us.

            I also don't think anyone is bashing the girls. For the most part they are a talented bunch. Sure, some of them wouldn't make this team if it weren't for the BRD, but none of them is a bad player. It is just unfortunate that their club and their coach has failed them and caused them to decline rather than live up to their potential.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Ranking only means anything when you directly compare it to the rankings of the teams we actually play against. Yes, we are ranked better than many local rec clubs, as we should be. But when compared with our "peers" other ECNL teams, particularly those in the Northeast, we are right in the middle, or slightly below the middle - and he have either lost or tied most of the teams that are ranked below us.

              I also don't think anyone is bashing the girls. For the most part they are a talented bunch. Sure, some of them wouldn't make this team if it weren't for the BRD, but none of them is a bad player. It is just unfortunate that their club and their coach has failed them and caused them to decline rather than live up to their potential.
              Completely agree and the poster who brags about the #92 ranking - epitomizes the problem at bucks - they are stuck in the past and think they only need to be better than the local rec clubs. The competition we play are ECNL teams not local rec teams, and for the most part we are not faring well against our real competition. And the bucks team has actually performed worse this year than last. Not sure how anyone on this team can be satisfied with the quality and quantity of training we do, or the results we’ve had this fall. ONE ECNL WIN! ONE!

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Completely agree and the poster who brags about the #92 ranking - epitomizes the problem at bucks - they are stuck in the past and think they only need to be better than the local rec clubs. The competition we play are ECNL teams not local rec teams, and for the most part we are not faring well against our real competition. And the bucks team has actually performed worse this year than last. Not sure how anyone on this team can be satisfied with the quality and quantity of training we do, or the results we’ve had this fall. ONE ECNL WIN! ONE!
                Its really an unfortunate that this is the mindset of many of the parents on this team. It is this mindset that has allowed this team to stagnate and cease any sort of real development. Believing a patch means something, even though the team barely trains, has a fully checked out coach, and a dad coach running the show is no different than believing that being ranked 92 actually means anything of significance. If all the parents opened their eyes and demanded more from the club, perhaps their patch would mean something, and perhaps a ranking would mean something. But as long as complacency rules, this team will be stuck in mediocracy.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Its really an unfortunate that this is the mindset of many of the parents on this team. It is this mindset that has allowed this team to stagnate and cease any sort of real development. Believing a patch means something, even though the team barely trains, has a fully checked out coach, and a dad coach running the show is no different than believing that being ranked 92 actually means anything of significance. If all the parents opened their eyes and demanded more from the club, perhaps their patch would mean something, and perhaps a ranking would mean something. But as long as complacency rules, this team will be stuck in mediocracy.
                  Completely unfortunate but it is the case - and sadly it’s BB who heads this mindset up - him and his buddies are all happy as long as their kid is on the “best” team in the local area. And they think the patch makes them worthy of elite status - you cannot be elite if you don’t have the right coaching and training, the team has the athletes but lack the other parts. It’s a shame more people aren’t willing to demand more from the club - as a result the team will be less than mediocre in a year. Status quo sadly satisfies BB and his buddies. Because that means no one will challenge their kids spots, or actually demand a real coach and not a dad.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Ranked #92 in the country on youthsoccerrankings.us

                    That’s far from a joke. Why bash 13 year old girls? That’s not being a tough guy.
                    #92 in the country? In the last 2 years alone, this team lost to MD Rush, Arlington (and a tie), Total FA FC VA, CEFC Cleveland, Baltimore Union, SJEB, Real Jersey (twice), NJ Premier, Richmond Strikers

                    and had 1-goal games with Princeton, Keystone Premier, Pipeline, FC Revs, NJ Premier, NEFC West, Great Falls??, Sunrise (tie), Philly Coppa, Montgomery United, Richmond Kickers (tie)

                    Those are just the schleps that they played here and there .... plenty of additional losses to low level ECNL teams as well. This team is not very good and falling fast, so take your #92 ranking and keep it. It appears that there are far more than 92 better teams in the northeast alone (probably outside ECNL and GDA).

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      #92 in the country? In the last 2 years alone, this team lost to MD Rush, Arlington (and a tie), Total FA FC VA, CEFC Cleveland, Baltimore Union, SJEB, Real Jersey (twice), NJ Premier, Richmond Strikers

                      and had 1-goal games with Princeton, Keystone Premier, Pipeline, FC Revs, NJ Premier, NEFC West, Great Falls??, Sunrise (tie), Philly Coppa, Montgomery United, Richmond Kickers (tie)

                      Those are just the schleps that they played here and there .... plenty of additional losses to low level ECNL teams as well. This team is not very good and falling fast, so take your #92 ranking and keep it. It appears that there are far more than 92 better teams in the northeast alone (probably outside ECNL and GDA).
                      Yes #92 nationally ranked. Go check the rankings. Which by the way is a trusted ranking site. Far better than got soccer (where this team is #1). So go argue with them. But I will trust that ranking site over an upset soccer dad.

                      Facts > feelings

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Yes #92 nationally ranked. Go check the rankings. Which by the way is a trusted ranking site. Far better than got soccer (where this team is #1). So go argue with them. But I will trust that ranking site over an upset soccer dad.

                        Facts > feelings
                        I posted the facts .... lots of losses and ties against mediocre teams in the last 23 months. How are you feeling now? No chance #92 .... maybe #92 in the Northeast.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I posted the facts .... lots of losses and ties against mediocre teams in the last 23 months. How are you feeling now? No chance #92 .... maybe #92 in the Northeast.
                          No, you didn't post the facts. The facts are on the ranking site, take a look:
                          https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/PAE/14/Girls/

                          It has this team as #3 in PA and #92 nationally.

                          You may disagree with them but that is your OPINION (not close to a fact).

                          So I am giving you this team's ranking according to the people that rank youth soccer all day every day. I will take their findings every day of the week over an upset soccer dad.

                          Facts > Feelings

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Completely unfortunate but it is the case - and sadly it’s BB who heads this mindset up - him and his buddies are all happy as long as their kid is on the “best” team in the local area. And they think the patch makes them worthy of elite status - you cannot be elite if you don’t have the right coaching and training, the team has the athletes but lack the other parts. It’s a shame more people aren’t willing to demand more from the club - as a result the team will be less than mediocre in a year. Status quo sadly satisfies BB and his buddies. Because that means no one will challenge their kids spots, or actually demand a real coach and not a dad.
                            rankings are king with the NE Philly/Bucks crowd. Rankings at U13 mean nothing!

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              No, you didn't post the facts. The facts are on the ranking site, take a look:
                              https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/PAE/14/Girls/

                              It has this team as #3 in PA and #92 nationally.

                              You may disagree with them but that is your OPINION (not close to a fact).

                              So I am giving you this team's ranking according to the people that rank youth soccer all day every day. I will take their findings every day of the week over an upset soccer dad.

                              Facts > Feelings
                              So, if I put up a website and some wins and losses and rank them at 1,473 you will believe that?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                No, you didn't post the facts. The facts are on the ranking site, take a look:
                                https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/PAE/14/Girls/

                                It has this team as #3 in PA and #92 nationally.

                                You may disagree with them but that is your OPINION (not close to a fact).

                                So I am giving you this team's ranking according to the people that rank youth soccer all day every day. I will take their findings every day of the week over an upset soccer dad.

                                Facts > Feelings
                                Facts - there are 15 Northeast ECNL teams. We are right in the middle - there are 7 teams above us and 7 below us. We have won 2 games against teams ranked higher than us - one of those was over a year ago. Agains the teams that are currently ranked below us, we have lost 2 and tied 5. And yes, we have 8 wins against those teams, 6 of them are against Maryland, PDA White and Continental, ranked 148, 211 and 347 respectively.

                                Put another way - we are ranked 8th out of 15th in the NE ECNL. The majority of our wins have come across the teams that are ranked 13, 14, and 15. We have also most recently tied the 13, 14 and 15 ranked teams.

                                So I do believe the facts support that this team is the very definition of mediocre - and if you dig a little deeper the facts support a decline in this team's record.


                                Facts>feelings

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