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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Just playing Devil's Advocate here...
    I looked at all this and the teams' records etc (Summer Mondays are sloooooow at my job). If I'm looking at the right teams, the last time the 2 teams played each other, the G10s did lose to the G11s 1-5 no? Doesn't it stand to reason that this scheduled/unscheduled game would have had a similar result? Now that's not necessarily a good reason reason to cancel a game, but it wouldn't be the first time.

    Also I'm confused, did both teams show up for the game and it was cancelled on the spot? Were there refs there and everything? Different posts say different things.

    I'm not advocating for ANY club (especially Susa with all their freaking shenanigans) to pull crap to fix rankings, but this doesn't feel as swarmy as it's being made out to be.
    Apparently it was scheduled only by the club with the league. It was not put on the players schedules and it was not played.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Just playing Devil's Advocate here...
      I looked at all this and the teams' records etc (Summer Mondays are sloooooow at my job). If I'm looking at the right teams, the last time the 2 teams played each other, the G10s did lose to the G11s 1-5 no? Doesn't it stand to reason that this scheduled/unscheduled game would have had a similar result? Now that's not necessarily a good reason reason to cancel a game, but it wouldn't be the first time.

      Also I'm confused, did both teams show up for the game and it was cancelled on the spot? Were there refs there and everything? Different posts say different things.

      I'm not advocating for ANY club (especially Susa with all their freaking shenanigans) to pull crap to fix rankings, but this doesn't feel as swarmy as it's being made out to be.
      susa posted that the game was scheduled for 5pm thursday, parents on both teams were not aware this game was scheduled

      both teams were there training at this time no game played.

      game was never going to happen.

      then susa posted a 1-0 win for the team the would take 1st

      then gary grossman was called out in public because everyone knew the game wasnt played

      the league then switched the game to a forfeit in favor of the team that would take 1st.

      parents just found out about all of this over weekend, i wrote my coach and she never replied to me. there has been no communication from the club to parents about this.

      yes, the 2011s would prob. beat us they are very good but we want to play. we pay alot of money here not to have games forfeited when we want to play.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Just playing Devil's Advocate here...
        I looked at all this and the teams' records etc (Summer Mondays are sloooooow at my job). If I'm looking at the right teams, the last time the 2 teams played each other, the G10s did lose to the G11s 1-5 no? Doesn't it stand to reason that this scheduled/unscheduled game would have had a similar result? Now that's not necessarily a good reason reason to cancel a game, but it wouldn't be the first time.

        Also I'm confused, did both teams show up for the game and it was cancelled on the spot? Were there refs there and everything? Different posts say different things.

        I'm not advocating for ANY club (especially Susa with all their freaking shenanigans) to pull crap to fix rankings, but this doesn't feel as swarmy as it's being made out to be.
        It's match fixing that affects 3rd parties that aren't SUSA.

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          #34
          Susa is cheating

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          susa posted that the game was scheduled for 5pm thursday, parents on both teams were not aware this game was scheduled

          both teams were there training at this time no game played.

          game was never going to happen.

          then susa posted a 1-0 win for the team the would take 1st

          then gary grossman was called out in public because everyone knew the game wasnt played

          the league then switched the game to a forfeit in favor of the team that would take 1st.

          parents just found out about all of this over weekend, i wrote my coach and she never replied to me. there has been no communication from the club to parents about this.

          yes, the 2011s would prob. beat us they are very good but we want to play. we pay alot of money here not to have games forfeited when we want to play.
          perhaps susa just thought to save g10 girls the embarrassment of losing again to the g11 girls. (like the mercy rule in lij). you try to do a nice thing and people get their panties in bunches, go figure...yet not surprised in this day and age.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            perhaps susa just thought to save g10 girls the embarrassment of losing again to the g11 girls. (like the mercy rule in lij). you try to do a nice thing and people get their panties in bunches, go figure...yet not surprised in this day and age.
            If it didn't affect the division standings, fine, don't play the game. But in this case it determines who gets first place place in a division and the third party is harmed by this game not being played yet still counting as a win.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              perhaps susa just thought to save g10 girls the embarrassment of losing again to the g11 girls. (like the mercy rule in lij). you try to do a nice thing and people get their panties in bunches, go figure...yet not surprised in this day and age.
              Susa job is teach the kids to play. That includes winning and losing. It does not include engineering standings.

              The players need to have an explanation of exactly what happened here by the club and an apology if this was engineered as suggested and the game needs to be removed.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                perhaps susa just thought to save g10 girls the embarrassment of losing again to the g11 girls. (like the mercy rule in lij). you try to do a nice thing and people get their panties in bunches, go figure...yet not surprised in this day and age.
                LIJSL has a mercy rule where a team forfeits a game before it even starts?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Susa job is teach the kids to play. That includes winning and losing. It does not include engineering standings.

                  The players need to have an explanation of exactly what happened here by the club and an apology if this was engineered as suggested and the game needs to be removed.
                  Just enter the championship game as a forfeit by Susa if that is how to solve things. The kids will understand as that is what they have been taught.

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                    #39
                    Susa is cheating

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If it didn't affect the division standings, fine, don't play the game. But in this case it determines who gets first place place in a division and the third party is harmed by this game not being played yet still counting as a win.
                    is there a cash prize for 1st 2nd or 3rd place? Do you get a cheesy medal (perhaps one day when your little wetnursed wimp kid is old and gray will be buried with them (hopefully many many many healthy years from now).

                    from one side you talk your almighty and holier than though bs about development, next you are bitching about the standings!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      is there a cash prize for 1st 2nd or 3rd place? Do you get a cheesy medal (perhaps one day when your little wetnursed wimp kid is old and gray will be buried with them (hopefully many many many healthy years from now).

                      from one side you talk your almighty and holier than though bs about development, next you are bitching about the standings!!!
                      Development includes ethics and sportsmanship. What did you say to your player about how they arrived in that first place spot? That they earned it? lol.

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                        #41
                        Susa and nycsl are in bed together it’s a joke,

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Susa and nycsl are in bed together it’s a joke,

                          The players are young but they are not stupid. They see this.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            is there a cash prize for 1st 2nd or 3rd place? Do you get a cheesy medal (perhaps one day when your little wetnursed wimp kid is old and gray will be buried with them (hopefully many many many healthy years from now).

                            from one side you talk your almighty and holier than though bs about development, next you are bitching about the standings!!!
                            The first place teams get to play in the New York Champions Cup.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The players are young but they are not stupid. They see this.
                              The girls absolutely see what is going on.

                              I am a parent on susa, and many of us are friendly with all the teams affected by this. NO ONE is happy about this. We are not happy about the way the club and the league handled this.

                              We do not understand why they did not just allow the teams to play. Let the team just win fair and square. What they did makes no sense to any of us. Now there is all this drama that casts a shadow over of what was a very good season.

                              As of today there has been no communication from the club about this and many of us have written about it.

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                                #45
                                Susa is cheating

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Susa and nycsl are in bed together it’s a joke,
                                well yea, susa is by far the largest club on LI. they are 3,4,5 teams deep in all ages!!!
                                keep your main client happy and fk the rest.

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