Can someone tell me why NYCFC's boys Academy is at the bottom of nearly every age group standing? I'm confused why an MLS club that takes the best players from every team in the area is losing so often.
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NYCFC players often play 1 or 2 years up. Some have even played 3 years up. That results in losing some games.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post -
Correct - NYCFC actually does prioritize development over winning and they stretch players ability by having them play up and not using risk averse tactics.Comment
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NYCFC has really good players and a very high level of play, but there are some disadvantages of playing there. 1. They keep bringing in new talent so there is constant pressure and competition to remain near the top of the talent pool and to stay on the team. There is a lot of turnover. 2. They demand a lot of commitment and are not understanding of competing interests or commitments like a local club would be. 3. They do not compete in many (if any) conventional tournaments, which some kids view as fun. 4. Some people hate NYCFC because they raid and destroy local soccer teams by taking away their best talent.Comment
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Its free and its to find potential pros so i get the commitment part. I do think they raid some clubs and cause a lot of turmoil only to discard the same kids 6-12 months later, which isn't good but there's not much to do about that.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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People just need to have open eyes. If a kid is chosen to be on any given NYCFC team, what are the odds of eventually becoming a pro? 1 out of 100? Less? If you are discarded, are you going to beg your old club and teammates to take you back, or just go somewhere else? People should realistically consider these and other issues before they make a decision.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Their job is to develop pro talent. That's why they push players hard and why those who aren't hacking it get cut.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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A quality player can always find a home, even those cut from a pro academy. If you can even make a pro team roster you're already in the top percentile. Don't turn down an offer because you're afraid you'll get cut. Take an offer if you think it's what you really want and want to be challenged. If it doesn't work out after a year or two it's not the end of the world. At least you tried.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Signed - someone who believes in never having any regretsComment
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Correct. Great for the development of the NYCFC kids, but does not help the development of opponents who are playing on age. It's all about developing the NYCFC kids, everyone else is just there to give them someone to play against. It would be awesome if another non-MLS academy would send kids playing up 2 years to play against the NYCFC kids playing up 2 years (i.e., both clubs playing the same age players). Maybe the other clubs would be better at developing players then. Obviously never going to happen, just another example of how US soccer is broken.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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There are kids playing up in varying age groups but that’s not the norm so it’s a bit unfair to always cite that. They still have quality kids playing of age. Just don’t be one of them. If you’re playing of age, your not special and you are the first to get cut.Comment
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Its all about odds. If you also have academic potential, you might want to think twice about playing for an academy if that commitment causes your school performance to suffer. If you don't make it in soccer and wind up as used car salesman, you might spend he rest of your life wondering what would have happened if you had concentrated on your studies instead. It's no different than the kids who will either make millions as pro football players or wind up flipping burgers for minimum wage. You need to calculate your odds.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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If you wound up a used car salesman because of soccer chances are you would have wound up a used car salesman anyway. Yes the odds of going pro are almost mil and for most soccer families the focus on academics. Playing for a top pro academy will open a lot of doors for you, then you have to sell coaches on what you can bring to their team. Totally agree never neglect your grades - good players with good grades will also have more options than players with weak metrics. You still have to get admitted. Soccer is a non revenue sport so the admissions offices don't bend as far vs what they'll do for stud basketball playerOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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What kid do you think *could have been* a surgeon but didn't and the reason was sports? The reason is more likely to be drugs or alcohol, which is the stuff that kids usually get into when they don't have extra curricular activities to occupy them.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I know lots of kids who graduated with middling 3.5 averages in run of the mill courses and had to go to third or fourth tier colleges at least in part because they spent too much time playing sports.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Yes and some, many, will get their act together as they mature. Boys especially are late at catching on..Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
College admissions officers call them LBB - Late Blooming Boys. Some kids are also simply just lazy as a lifestyle. Soccer families tend to be higher than average income, better educated and more academically focused. As a nonrevenue sport soccer players don’t get the same special treatment other sports get in the admissions process. I'm not sure if the data exists but I suspect soccer players graduate college at a higher rate than football and basketball players. Lots of car salesmen in those two athletic cohort groupsComment
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