New FC Barcelona Academy NY - the other two went off the rails

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I have been calling out scumbag Larry and BOTN for months for spewing lies about BARCA but you guys won't post any of my comments. Is it because my kid was a former SUSA player and I have made comments regarding the poor training at SUSA and the superior training at BARCA? or perhaps you guys need players so bad at SUSA to pay for those fields that people have been waiting on for years. Either way BARCA is not going anywhere as Keith (whoever he is) does not own BARCA. FC Barcelona owns BARCA NY and if they didn't this article would not have appeared on the official FC Barcelona website.

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/...y-in-new-york#

Now show me the proof that anyone other than FC Barcelona owns BARCA NY.

If FCBarcelona owns the NY "Academy" those fields would be built already that is chump change to them.

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I guess you know more about the ownership structure than the Barcelona website. Hahahhahab.

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Come on Larry, here is the proof that FC Barcelona owns and operates BARCA NY.

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/...my-in-new-york

Now show me the proof that they are for sale or owned by someone else.

I mean the ratification document (that you can't seem to link to) does state it's a 50/50 JV with PSP, so why couldn't this be true? the ratification document stated that there was *no* capital commitment by FCB, so obviously the opex of running the team is being done by somebody, who "owns" the club. in effect this should mean they own their piece of the JV, the rights to run the club, the associated revenue (less royalties to FCB) and expense.

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New FC Barcelona Academy NY - the other one went off the rails

I mean the ratification document (that you can't seem to link to) does state it's a 50/50 JV with PSP, so why couldn't this be true? the ratification document stated that there was *no* capital commitment by FCB, so obviously the opex of running the team is being done by somebody, who "owns" the club. in effect this should mean they own their piece of the JV, the rights to run the club, the associated revenue (less royalties to FCB) and expense.

the JV is for the proposed facility...not for running the club...there is a big difference between the two.

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the JV is for the proposed facility...not for running the club...there is a big difference between the two.

Do you think Barca runs the club? If thats the case put your name on it.

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Do you think Barca runs the club? If thats the case put your name on it.

I can't believe we have to put this here again for you very Slow people-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/s...-bartomeu.html

NY Times Interview
Q. Barcelona has opened a handful of academies in the United States this year. What are the differences between the academy models Barcelona is undertaking here and the club’s main academy, La Masia, in Spain?

A. We have one school model: the academy, the scholars. They work the same all over the world, in different languages. What we do, really, is to teach people from 6 to 14 years old to play soccer, to play football, in our way of playing. That’s what we do.

Then we have something different. Long Island is different, it is owned by us. Arizona is different.

Gràcies,
Josep Maria Bartomeu
FC Barcelona President
Mes Que Un Club

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I can't believe we have to put this here again for you very Slow people-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/s...-bartomeu.html

NY Times Interview
Q. Barcelona has opened a handful of academies in the United States this year. What are the differences between the academy models Barcelona is undertaking here and the club’s main academy, La Masia, in Spain?

A. We have one school model: the academy, the scholars. They work the same all over the world, in different languages. What we do, really, is to teach people from 6 to 14 years old to play soccer, to play football, in our way of playing. That’s what we do.

Then we have something different. Long Island is different, it is owned by us. Arizona is different.

Gràcies,
Josep Maria Bartomeu
FC Barcelona President
Mes Que Un Club

hmm,,
how do we really know that the NY Times didn't make up this article to sell the papers? Do we know that Keith doesn't own the NY Times. not sure I am believing a trash paper like the Times. (shh..for those that can't see thru this, it's called...sarcasm)

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Nobody is disputing FCB's involvement in the JV. However, you are disputing that Prospect Sports is in charge of the day to day activities. Prospect Sports is obligated by the JV to pay royalties and a percentage of profits to FCB. Now, are you suggesting that Prospect Sports is kicking up royalties and a piece of the action from a complex that doesn't exist yet or does FCB get its end from the tuitions collected after its all said and done with expenses? It's tuition right because if FCB was getting its cut from the complex then Keith Delucia and his crew are dumber then the stupidest person on the forum. (Yeah, I'm talking to you, Smh)

Dress it up any way you want, call it whatever you like, it doesn't really matter. If Prospect Sports controls the tuitions then they do indeed run the club. They pay the bills and one of them is what they have to kick up to FCB.

Prospect Sports is selling the right to manage the tuitions. FCB can claim ownership because of the JV agreement.

See that's where Prospect Sports deal is different and smart. All the other Barca academy franchises are most likely paying a higher royalty fee but Prospect Sports made them a partner and sold them on the NY market and the complex.

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Nobody is disputing FCB's involvement in the JV. However, you are disputing that Prospect Sports is in charge of the day to day activities. Prospect Sports is obligated by the JV to pay royalties and a percentage of profits to FCB. Now, are you suggesting that Prospect Sports is kicking up royalties and a piece of the action from a complex that doesn't exist yet or does FCB get its end from the tuitions collected after its all said and done with expenses? It's tuition right because if FCB was getting its cut from the complex then Keith Delucia and his crew are dumber then the stupidest person on the forum. (Yeah, I'm talking to you, Smh)

Dress it up any way you want, call it whatever you like, it doesn't really matter. If Prospect Sports controls the tuitions then they do indeed run the club. They pay the bills and one of them is what they have to kick up to FCB.

Prospect Sports is selling the right to manage the tuitions. FCB can claim ownership because of the JV agreement.

See that's where Prospect Sports deal is different and smart. All the other Barca academy franchises are most likely paying a higher royalty fee but Prospect Sports made them a partner and sold them on the NY market and the complex.

Now you're REALLY grasping at straws- I will allow you call it somewhat a "Limited Partnership" but that's about it. The partnership is Barca brings in the players, training staff, the staff sets up scheduling of games/training also AND PSP controls the facility and I'm sure guides FCB about the NY market. FCB also has a clause that they can purchase the facility/property if it sees it financially feasible down the road.

Does every club have issues with how it's run? heck yeah- BUT hopefully it will get better.

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Nobody is disputing FCB's involvement in the JV. However, you are disputing that Prospect Sports is in charge of the day to day activities. Prospect Sports is obligated by the JV to pay royalties and a percentage of profits to FCB. Now, are you suggesting that Prospect Sports is kicking up royalties and a piece of the action from a complex that doesn't exist yet or does FCB get its end from the tuitions collected after its all said and done with expenses? It's tuition right because if FCB was getting its cut from the complex then Keith Delucia and his crew are dumber then the stupidest person on the forum. (Yeah, I'm talking to you, Smh)

Dress it up any way you want, call it whatever you like, it doesn't really matter. If Prospect Sports controls the tuitions then they do indeed run the club. They pay the bills and one of them is what they have to kick up to FCB.

Prospect Sports is selling the right to manage the tuitions. FCB can claim ownership because of the JV agreement.

See that's where Prospect Sports deal is different and smart. All the other Barca academy franchises are most likely paying a higher royalty fee but Prospect Sports made them a partner and sold them on the NY market and the complex.

they are looking for investors - or yes, like you said to sell a portion of their share, but maybe not permanently, just borrowing and eventually buy it back maybe? what does Cambodia know about NY soccer?

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they are looking for investors - or yes, like you said to sell a portion of their share, but maybe not permanently, just borrowing and eventually buy it back maybe? what does Cambodia know about NY soccer?

finally someone who makes sense.

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Now you're REALLY grasping at straws- I will allow you call it somewhat a "Limited Partnership" but that's about it. The partnership is Barca brings in the players, training staff, the staff sets up scheduling of games/training also AND PSP controls the facility and I'm sure guides FCB about the NY market. FCB also has a clause that they can purchase the facility/property if it sees it financially feasible down the road.

Does every club have issues with how it's run? heck yeah- BUT hopefully it will get better.

Grasping at straws? How can you completely ignore the flow of money into the organization and who controls it in your remark? Again you erroneously state that "PSP controls the facility and guides FCB about the NY market." That statement suggests that the JV only involves the complex and revenues created from it.

That is false

Prospect Sports controls the tuitions. They employ the trainers and staff that work for the academy. The only skin in the game that FCB has is use of their brand.

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Grasping at straws? How can you completely ignore the flow of money into the organization and who controls it in your remark? Again you erroneously state that "PSP controls the facility and guides FCB about the NY market." That statement suggests that the JV only involves the complex and revenues created from it.

That is false

Prospect Sports controls the tuitions. They employ the trainers and staff that work for the academy. The only skin in the game that FCB has is use of their brand.

Let me correct you. FCB (yes the one in Spain) supplies the trainers (the ones from Spain) and controls and manages the curriculum. PSP collects the tuitions and I am sure they need to pony up a certain amount to FCB (yes, the same FCB in Spain).

However, your assumptions are no more important than mine. In fact in my opinion, they are less important than mine.

Signed,
Larry.

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Grasping at straws? How can you completely ignore the flow of money into the organization and who controls it in your remark? Again you erroneously state that "PSP controls the facility and guides FCB about the NY market." That statement suggests that the JV only involves the complex and revenues created from it.

That is false

Prospect Sports controls the tuitions. They employ the trainers and staff that work for the academy. The only skin in the game that FCB has is use of their brand.

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/...-united-states

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https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/...-united-states

There you go PSP does not control the tuition. If PSP does not create the facility they will be out of the picture and BARCA will still exist here in NY because FCB Barcelona owned and operate the Club not PSP.