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Us soccer needs a red card

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-national-team

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https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-national-team

Let's see. We made an unnecessary age group change which blew up virtually every team in the country at every level and we lost a half million soccer players during that time period? Who would have thunk it?

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https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-national-team

Great article, and the perfect description:

The problem is simple: We’re a soccer-playing nation, not a soccer nation. There’s a difference.

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Great article, and the perfect description:

The problem is simple: We’re a soccer-playing nation, not a soccer nation. There’s a difference.

very true.

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Great article, and the perfect description:

The problem is simple: We’re a soccer-playing nation, not a soccer nation. There’s a difference.

This is ultimately what it comes down to. Heck, no matter where the US Men's team plays we aren't the home team.

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This is ultimately what it comes down to. Heck, no matter where the US Men's team plays we aren't the home team.

BS. Be respectable and people show up ... even for the women, but, despite the men's poor performance forever, people still show up in very good numbers to see mediocre play on a team with no superstars. Messi doesn't play for us, Neymar doesn't, no Renaldo or Sala ..... we have never had a Pirlo, Ibrahimavic, Rooney, Modric ....... Sorry, there is plenty of talent here that we can become competitive. Just because every American city and town doesn't have a local or regional team doesn't mean that we don't have hundreds of thousands of kids training to be those guys. We just prop them up too early in formal and regimented practices instead of just letting them play and becoming lethal ... something they would do on their own. Instead we turn them into 2-touch bots to play backwards and sideways until we can launch one backside and try to run it down. Sorry, while we do have plenty of sports here that other countries do not, we have plenty of kids (and money) to fill the ranks in soccer as well. If the US wanted to do things correctly, they would have a ton of regional leagues like EDP with promotion and relegation and the cross play between regions and national playoffs for the winners of the top divisions. Players would work to make teams that are perennially in the top divisions and the onus would be on them to get there (aided by the best teams they could make from year to year). Stop taking loyal customers at 8 or 9 and seeing them through for the next 10 years whether they could make it or not. Keep things local until U12 then make it regional for U13+, with national playoffs at U15. Let the kids bubble and sort themselves out. No walmart clubs need to be given special status. Coaches and teams earn their own lot on the field not because of the size or financial status of their club. Relegation would force clubs and coaches to do better because it shows which teams/coaches/clubs actually perform in the long run. Imagine that!

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BS. Be respectable and people show up ... even for the women, but, despite the men's poor performance forever, people still show up in very good numbers to see mediocre play on a team with no superstars. Messi doesn't play for us, Neymar doesn't, no Renaldo or Sala ..... we have never had a Pirlo, Ibrahimavic, Rooney, Modric ....... Sorry, there is plenty of talent here that we can become competitive. Just because every American city and town doesn't have a local or regional team doesn't mean that we don't have hundreds of thousands of kids training to be those guys. We just prop them up too early in formal and regimented practices instead of just letting them play and becoming lethal ... something they would do on their own. Instead we turn them into 2-touch bots to play backwards and sideways until we can launch one backside and try to run it down. Sorry, while we do have plenty of sports here that other countries do not, we have plenty of kids (and money) to fill the ranks in soccer as well. If the US wanted to do things correctly, they would have a ton of regional leagues like EDP with promotion and relegation and the cross play between regions and national playoffs for the winners of the top divisions. Players would work to make teams that are perennially in the top divisions and the onus would be on them to get there (aided by the best teams they could make from year to year). Stop taking loyal customers at 8 or 9 and seeing them through for the next 10 years whether they could make it or not. Keep things local until U12 then make it regional for U13+, with national playoffs at U15. Let the kids bubble and sort themselves out. No walmart clubs need to be given special status. Coaches and teams earn their own lot on the field not because of the size or financial status of their club. Relegation would force clubs and coaches to do better because it shows which teams/coaches/clubs actually perform in the long run. Imagine that!

Blah blah blah. Writing a bunch of words doesn't make it true. Good gawd....EDP Cheerleader at it again...

The reality is every game the US Men play the fans are outnumbered by the opposition. The only possible exception would be v Canada and a friendly with a European team.

CONCACAF qualifying the play almost all road games based on the crowd noise.

US has no passion for the sport because our parents never heard of it. Our competition lives it, and they have huge populations living here.

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BS. Be respectable and people show up ... even for the women, but, despite the men's poor performance forever, people still show up in very good numbers to see mediocre play on a team with no superstars. Messi doesn't play for us, Neymar doesn't, no Renaldo or Sala ..... we have never had a Pirlo, Ibrahimavic, Rooney, Modric ....... Sorry, there is plenty of talent here that we can become competitive. Just because every American city and town doesn't have a local or regional team doesn't mean that we don't have hundreds of thousands of kids training to be those guys. We just prop them up too early in formal and regimented practices instead of just letting them play and becoming lethal ... something they would do on their own. Instead we turn them into 2-touch bots to play backwards and sideways until we can launch one backside and try to run it down. Sorry, while we do have plenty of sports here that other countries do not, we have plenty of kids (and money) to fill the ranks in soccer as well. If the US wanted to do things correctly, they would have a ton of regional leagues like EDP with promotion and relegation and the cross play between regions and national playoffs for the winners of the top divisions. Players would work to make teams that are perennially in the top divisions and the onus would be on them to get there (aided by the best teams they could make from year to year). Stop taking loyal customers at 8 or 9 and seeing them through for the next 10 years whether they could make it or not. Keep things local until U12 then make it regional for U13+, with national playoffs at U15. Let the kids bubble and sort themselves out. No walmart clubs need to be given special status. Coaches and teams earn their own lot on the field not because of the size or financial status of their club. Relegation would force clubs and coaches to do better because it shows which teams/coaches/clubs actually perform in the long run. Imagine that!

wow, you have it all figured out don't you?

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Be patient

Be patient all, in the next 5 years something special will happen, its happening already at the younger ages.

Bradley is an afterthought, and while he is on the roster it will be unchanged. But let Gio Reyna and Scally, and Chavez and the U-17 stars of today lead us to the USMNT of tomorrow with Pulisic as the senior. We have to wait a few years, but its coming and its gonna come fast.

Days of whining will become days of cheering.
Feelings of irrelevance will become feelings of pride and arrival.

Nothing good comes easy, and we're learning how to do it right. When the REAL players are there, so to will there be a REAL coach.

Lay in the weeds, we need some time to pass.

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Be patient all, in the next 5 years something special will happen, its happening already at the younger ages.

Bradley is an afterthought, and while he is on the roster it will be unchanged. But let Gio Reyna and Scally, and Chavez and the U-17 stars of today lead us to the USMNT of tomorrow with Pulisic as the senior. We have to wait a few years, but its coming and its gonna come fast.

Days of whining will become days of cheering.
Feelings of irrelevance will become feelings of pride and arrival.

Nothing good comes easy, and we're learning how to do it right. When the REAL players are there, so to will there be a REAL coach.

Lay in the weeds, we need some time to pass.

Doesn't matter, even a better performing team won't change the culture. NWSL games saw a small blip in attendance post WC but I guarantee you attendance will be back dow to prior levels next year. No one watches women's soccer just like no one watches women's basketball, an infinitely more popular sport. For men, the big 3 sports still beat out soccer for attendance, swag sales, ad dollars etc. The men could win the WC tomorrow and MLS teams would see a modest, short lived blip in numbers then a return to prior.

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https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-national-team

Perfect:

We play the game every weekend on every patch of grass or artificial turf in America, to the cacophony of parents screaming from their lawn chairs to “booooot it.” But we don’t live the game. We don’t breathe it, digest it, feel it, think it, love it. We don’t consume it and let it consume us. Grandma doesn’t scream, “Refereeeee,” (or worse) at the TV.

Soccer practice is like piano lessons. Tuesdays and Thursday, 4 to 5:30. Then we close the piano cover and go home, and the music stops.

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Doesn't matter, even a better performing team won't change the culture. NWSL games saw a small blip in attendance post WC but I guarantee you attendance will be back dow to prior levels next year. No one watches women's soccer just like no one watches women's basketball, an infinitely more popular sport. For men, the big 3 sports still beat out soccer for attendance, swag sales, ad dollars etc. The men could win the WC tomorrow and MLS teams would see a modest, short lived blip in numbers then a return to prior.

So what? Why would that matter to you? If you like the NFL keep watching that.

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So what? Why would that matter to you? If you like the NFL keep watching that.

If part of the issue for our poor performance is a lack of soccer culture, then it should matter to the few who are passionate about the game. You seem to take the defeatist attitude, which gets us nowhere. "Screw football fans. We don't need them"

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If part of the issue for our poor performance is a lack of soccer culture, then it should matter to the few who are passionate about the game. You seem to take the defeatist attitude, which gets us nowhere. "Screw football fans. We don't need them"

You don't need football fans.

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wow, you have it all figured out don't you?

No, but lets keep letting USSF run the roost and doing business as usual .... it is not iup to any governing body to make the players great ... it is up to the kids. Stop taking from your own ranks when you have no evaluation process or system for the masses .... let them figure it out on their own and then find them. USSF certainly not capable of training world greats, so they should stop trying and picking only their sorry progeny.