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Top programs can get top players from around the country and even the world (more so men's programs than women's). Mid to lower level programs are more likely to have a roster that reflects their general student body - mostly students from the region not all over. A more regional school like Marist or Fairfield will not get much interest from FL, CA or TX players.

Very true. The current Marist roster only has 1 player from outside the Northeast and Fairfield only has 3.

Seems like the top 20 D3 schools have more players from outside the region.

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Where the hell are you getting these wacky stats??? So you're saying each top 100 team gives an average of 4 scholarships. Doesn't make sense. And then average of 10 to 20 internationals each? Please stop....

Are you stupid? How many scholarships does each fully funded d1 women's soccer team average per year? Multiply that number times the top 100 women's programs and then calculate how many kids want those spots and play in high level soccer programs (not that this is actually a restriction of any kind). Are you saying that they average more than 4? Please 'splain, dummy.

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Are you stupid? How many scholarships does each fully funded d1 women's soccer team average per year? Multiply that number times the top 100 women's programs and then calculate how many kids want those spots and play in high level soccer programs (not that this is actually a restriction of any kind). Are you saying that they average more than 4? Please 'splain, dummy.

Here you go Lucy....fully funded D1 schools can offer 14 full scholarships. Split that however you like, the number comes to 14. Which is greater than 4. You better ask for your college tuition back.

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Here you go Lucy....fully funded D1 schools can offer 14 full scholarships. Split that however you like, the number comes to 14. Which is greater than 4. You better ask for your college tuition back.

That's 14 for all players. to make it easy, current roster has 28 players, split evenly over 4 years

7 freshman
7 sophomores
7 juniors
7 seniors

If each has a 1/2 scholarship, then that 3.5 scholarships per class,

When the senior class graduates, that 3.5 scholarships can now go to the incoming freshman class.

they do not have 14 scholarships to give out per year. 14 across the entire team, and some are already taken

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That's 14 for all players. to make it easy, current roster has 28 players, split evenly over 4 years

7 freshman
7 sophomores
7 juniors
7 seniors

If each has a 1/2 scholarship, then that 3.5 scholarships per class,

When the senior class graduates, that 3.5 scholarships can now go to the incoming freshman class.

they do not have 14 scholarships to give out per year. 14 across the entire team, and some are already taken

Yes, and the 14 assumes the program is fully funded (not all are but more so for men, who only have 9.9 to begin with). So with an average roster of say 28, that means an "average" of 50% each. But looking at it by class is wrong. The amount granted is highly correlated with what kind of impact the coach thinks you will have. The true studs will get 70-85% ish (full athletics are very rare), the bulk 40-60% ish, the rest <40% trailing all the way down to none for the practice cones. Think of it like a bell curve. Some coaches also wont' give any frosh much $ until they prove themselves (which is smart IMHO). A coach's $ also may be mostly locked up by older players just because a particularly recruiting year was really good; conversely he may have had a larger than normal number of seniors graduating that frees up more $.

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Here you go Lucy....fully funded D1 schools can offer 14 full scholarships. Split that however you like, the number comes to 14. Which is greater than 4. You better ask for your college tuition back.

Man, you could be the dumbest brick on this thread ... you can't be this f'ing stupid!

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Yes, and the 14 assumes the program is fully funded (not all are but more so for men, who only have 9.9 to begin with). So with an average roster of say 28, that means an "average" of 50% each. But looking at it by class is wrong. The amount granted is highly correlated with what kind of impact the coach thinks you will have. The true studs will get 70-85% ish (full athletics are very rare), the bulk 40-60% ish, the rest <40% trailing all the way down to none for the practice cones. Think of it like a bell curve. Some coaches also wont' give any frosh much $ until they prove themselves (which is smart IMHO). A coach's $ also may be mostly locked up by older players just because a particularly recruiting year was really good; conversely he may have had a larger than normal number of seniors graduating that frees up more $.

Yes, agreed. But laid it out that way to make it easier to understand while they may have 14 scholarships per team, its not 14 per year available. Tried to simply my explanation

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Yes, agreed. But laid it out that way to make it easier to understand while they may have 14 scholarships per team, its not 14 per year available. Tried to simply my explanation

"simplify"

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Man, you could be the dumbest brick on this thread ... you can't be this f'ing stupid!

Previous poster is correct, 14 available if fully funded. So split those across a full roster. What's the issue?

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Previous poster is correct, 14 available if fully funded. So split those across a full roster. What's the issue?

Re-read the last two pages, but read them slower this time. Reading comprehension not your thing, or do you not read english at all?

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Re-read the last two pages, but read them slower this time. Reading comprehension not your thing, or do you not read english at all?

You seem to be the one having issues

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You seem to be the one having issues

There are roughly 400 women's scholarships PER YEAR (actually about 50 less given the other poster's reasonable math) ..... for the top 100 D1 soccer schools collectively, yet in post 7586 it was asserted that "Schools like Marist, Fairfield and Wagner are not great for NE ECNL and GDA teams. Not bad for local USYS & NPL teams tho" .... that is a stupid statement given the vast number of kids coming out of HS each year from ECNL, GDA, and Internationals (let alone talented players from wherever else they played). It is clear that the VAST majority of ECNL and DA players go to schools exactly like (Or even far below) the three schools named (in terms of soccer and academics). Is that clear enough for you dummy?

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There are roughly 400 women's scholarships PER YEAR (actually about 50 less given the other poster's reasonable math) ..... for the top 100 D1 soccer schools collectively,

You're making them 400 full rides - many, in fact most, will not be. Almost no one gets a full ride. Most players will get some range of a partial athletic grant, possibly combined with merit (which the school decides on) and financial assistance (if they family's income qualifies them). That makes the whatever 4 scholarships per team per year completely inaccurate.

yet in post 7586 it was asserted that "Schools like Marist, Fairfield and Wagner are not great for NE ECNL and GDA teams. Not bad for local USYS & NPL teams tho" .... that is a stupid statement given the vast number of kids coming out of HS each year from ECNL, GDA, and Internationals (let alone talented players from wherever else they played). It is clear that the VAST majority of ECNL and DA players go to schools exactly like (Or even far below) the three schools named (in terms of soccer and academics). Is that clear enough for you dummy?

I'm not the poster and never said that. You are correct that plenty of schools like Marist get mostly ECNL and GDA players (before it was ECNL and NPL, EDP etc. GDA's entrance into the market is just pushing out the lower leagues from consideration for many programs). However, a patch on the sleeve is no guarantee of quality. An decent enough ECNL player from an ok ECNL club is not the same caliber as an ECNL player from a top club with a few NT call ups. You can't lump them all in together, there's a lot of "range".

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2658174]You're making them 400 full rides - many, in fact most, will not be. Almost no one gets a full ride. Most players will get some range of a partial athletic grant, possibly combined with merit (which the school decides on) and financial assistance (if they family's income qualifies them). That makes the whatever 4 scholarships per team per year completely inaccurate.



How? Its 4 scholarships offered to how many players the coach see's fit to offer to. The other 10 are tied up between other players on the team. Each year can be more or less than 10 but it wont be 14 in any given year. That would mean only new incoming players will have scholarships and no current players will

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You're making them 400 full rides - many, in fact most, will not be. Almost no one gets a full ride. Most players will get some range of a partial athletic grant, possibly combined with merit (which the school decides on) and financial assistance (if they family's income qualifies them). That makes the whatever 4 scholarships per team per year completely inaccurate.



How? Its 4 scholarships offered to how many players the coach see's fit to offer to. The other 10 are tied up between other players on the team. Each year can be more or less than 10 but it wont be 14 in any given year. That would mean only new incoming players will have scholarships and no current players will

Meant to say - "Each year can be more or less than 4 but it wont be 14 in any given year"