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Ask USSF why they created a large national league when it wasn't needed. The need was there to do something better for the nation's top talent for sure. But thats like <5% of the US. There was no need to start another huge league and drag in thousands of others who, at most, will play a few years in college.

Why wasn't it needed? Too many players across the country (remember, the country doesn't evolve around NYC) who could not logistically play in an ECNL league.

If there was a better, more inclusive alternative then I can see your point. But, my D will play in D1 next year and GDA was the reason.

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So why are girls DA players getting suspended and the boys that do this are not ?

Did anyone rat out the boys?

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Why wasn't it needed? Too many players across the country (remember, the country doesn't evolve around NYC) who could not logistically play in an ECNL league.

If there was a better, more inclusive alternative then I can see your point. But, my D will play in D1 next year and GDA was the reason.

dont think so. sorry. There are many gda players that will not play in college. Your player must have motivation and talent. That is the reason.

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dont think so. sorry. There are many gda players that will not play in college. Your player must have motivation and talent. That is the reason.

Yes, but also, the coaches she spoke to were pretty clear: We are only looking at GDA or ECNL players. Not that we won't look into another player on occasion as an outlier, but our concentration starts there.

She would never have got the looks otherwise.

Agree there are GDA players who won't play in college. Same with ECNL, EDP, NPL, etc.

I'm not advocating for GDA over ECNL. I'd actually like to see them combined and work more Regionally, with the occasional cross-over game into other Regions. I do like the Showcases 2-3/year.

Take all the ECNL & GDA teams, eliminate 1/4 - 1/3 and let them compete. But, ECNL wasn't having it so too many players need another avenue.

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The GDA should of been rolled-out as 12-16 geographical centers throughout the country, players would try-out, and if accepted would train supplementarily 6/8 times a year, say a weekend of 2 games per day, the best 30/50 of those would all be sent to National Training camp in California or Florida. The program should of been low-cost, but very exclusive, and ALLLLL the leagues would have to accept USSF as lead organization. However, this world is only in the Watchman universe....

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Yes, but also, the coaches she spoke to were pretty clear: We are only looking at GDA or ECNL players. Not that we won't look into another player on occasion as an outlier, but our concentration starts there.

She would never have got the looks otherwise.

Agree there are GDA players who won't play in college. Same with ECNL, EDP, NPL, etc.

I'm not advocating for GDA over ECNL. I'd actually like to see them combined and work more Regionally, with the occasional cross-over game into other Regions. I do like the Showcases 2-3/year.

Take all the ECNL & GDA teams, eliminate 1/4 - 1/3 and let them compete. But, ECNL wasn't having it so too many players need another avenue.

ok - that is on the college coaches. they bought into this terrible system and perpetuate it.

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So why are girls DA players getting suspended and the boys that do this are not ?

Very few boys do it and it's pretty scattered across non MLS clubs. Those that do tend be through the allowed loophole - go back to your DA club when you're done with soccer. There are girls doing this at other GDA clubs too. But this was a large number of players at one specific club playing DA and HS at the same time, a big DA no-no regardless or not if you do it via a loophole or official private school waiver. It was only a matter of time until people started to notice.

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The GDA should of been rolled-out as 12-16 geographical centers throughout the country, players would try-out, and if accepted would train supplementarily 6/8 times a year, say a weekend of 2 games per day, the best 30/50 of those would all be sent to National Training camp in California or Florida. The program should of been low-cost, but very exclusive, and ALLLLL the leagues would have to accept USSF as lead organization. However, this world is only in the Watchman universe....

why? that would cost money and there is no way to recoup the investment required.

Your suggestion implies that youth soccer is about soccer and not money. That is your mistake.

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Yes, but also, the coaches she spoke to were pretty clear: We are only looking at GDA or ECNL players. Not that we won't look into another player on occasion as an outlier, but our concentration starts there.

She would never have got the looks otherwise.

Agree there are GDA players who won't play in college. Same with ECNL, EDP, NPL, etc.

I'm not advocating for GDA over ECNL. I'd actually like to see them combined and work more Regionally, with the occasional cross-over game into other Regions. I do like the Showcases 2-3/year.

Take all the ECNL & GDA teams, eliminate 1/4 - 1/3 and let them compete. But, ECNL wasn't having it so too many players need another avenue.

USSF is very complicit in this debacle. There was no need to for another national league. They could have opted for a much smaller route to focus on a more elite group of players. But they saw an opportunity to try and stamp out ECNL in the process. It hasn't worked out as they planned.

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why? that would cost money and there is no way to recoup the investment required.

Your suggestion implies that youth soccer is about soccer and not money. That is your mistake.

USSF is sitting on a cash pile of $150M. They can toss in a few pennies to make a system like that work. Instead they pay each other absurd salaries while they sit around and bloviate in their Chicago mansion HQ

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USSF is very complicit in this debacle. There was no need to for another national league. They could have opted for a much smaller route to focus on a more elite group of players. But they saw an opportunity to try and stamp out ECNL in the process. It hasn't worked out as they planned.

Again, there was no viable option for too many players due to ECNL's exclusionary tactics.

We always hear the stories of these good players who can't get to a good club so they need to drive several hours just for practice. This was an attempt to close that.

No, not every player will be NT material. That's not reality. So, you flood the market and reach every corner to find those players, then bring them in. If you aren't one of the chosen ones, you still get the benefit of the training and exposure

Right idea? meh, I get the point but the ECNL issue has't and won't go away.

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dont think so. sorry. There are many gda players that will not play in college. Your player must have motivation and talent. That is the reason.

There's that, and the fact that plenty are simply NPL level talent. They're there mostly because they and their NPL clubs had nowhere else to go. Coaches shop talent, not badges. A new patch on the sleeve isn't going to magically transform your mid level D3 player into a top 50D1 contender

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USSF is sitting on a cash pile of $150M. They can toss in a few pennies to make a system like that work. Instead they pay each other absurd salaries while they sit around and bloviate in their Chicago mansion HQ

They don't need a system that works. Look at the boys? Has that worked? Is there any accountability at all when it does not work? Isn't the men's head coach somebody's brother or something?

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Again, there was no viable option for too many players due to ECNL's exclusionary tactics.

We always hear the stories of these good players who can't get to a good club so they need to drive several hours just for practice. This was an attempt to close that.

No, not every player will be NT material. That's not reality. So, you flood the market and reach every corner to find those players, then bring them in. If you aren't one of the chosen ones, you still get the benefit of the training and exposure

Right idea? meh, I get the point but the ECNL issue has't and won't go away.

How does GDA close the geographic issue when they're in the exact same areas as ECNL? GDA clubs and travel is still very cost prohibitive as well, so they're not expanding the base that way either. All GDA did was water down the talent pool.

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They don't need a system that works. Look at the boys? Has that worked? Is there any accountability at all when it does not work? Isn't the men's head coach somebody's brother or something?

Well yeah, there's that. they're terrible and by all accounts HQ is a Lord of the Flies working environment right now. After 10+ years of BDA and little to show for it, I'm not sure who thought GDA would be the way to improve the women's side of the game.