LIJSL PDP vs LIRR Pre-Academy

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My daughter is U14 and now playing in LIJSL Premier Division. I was wondering if someone could advise which of the following two programs would provide better training and better competition- LIJSL PDP program or Long Island Rough Riders Pre-Academy (formerly known as Premier (all-year round).

Thank you.

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My daughter is U14 and now playing in LIJSL Premier Division. I was wondering if someone could advise which of the following two programs would provide better training and better competition- LIJSL PDP program or Long Island Rough Riders Pre-Academy (formerly known as Premier (all-year round).

Thank you.

Save your money. The most valuable training is what your daughter is doing when she is not at a team practice. The players who usually reach the higher levels are the ones putting in their own work. Working on her touch and ball striking with both feet.

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I agree players can make great strides working on their own. However they also can benefit greatly with supplemental training with quality coaching and other motivated players. That you'll find with PDP, much less so RR.

OP if you want to make the investment then go with PDP.

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I agree players can make great strides working on their own. However they also can benefit greatly with supplemental training with quality coaching and other motivated players. That you'll find with PDP, much less so RR.

OP if you want to make the investment then go with PDP.

That's what her club team should be giving her. Why pay extra for that ?

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LIRR pre-academy to what? They don't have academy teams. Sounds misleading to me.

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That's what her club team should be giving her. Why pay extra for that ?

Maybe the OP's kid is behind, or wants to work on specific things that aren't easy to work on in a team practice situation, or want to improve to make a higher level team. Besides, as we know, plenty of clubs do a pi$$ poor job of development. Plenty of coaches just let the teams scrimmage all practice while they are on their cell phones. Long term the OP would need to address that kind of situation but that doesn't devalue the benefits of extra training in the meantime.

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LIRR pre-academy to what? They don't have academy teams. Sounds misleading to me.

I believe they are saying they are a LISC feeder academy

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Maybe the OP's kid is behind, or wants to work on specific things that aren't easy to work on in a team practice situation, or want to improve to make a higher level team. Besides, as we know, plenty of clubs do a pi$$ poor job of development. Plenty of coaches just let the teams scrimmage all practice while they are on their cell phones. Long term the OP would need to address that kind of situation but that doesn't devalue the benefits of extra training in the meantime.

The parent said she was looking for better competition for her daughter. If she's behind why is looking for better competition. That's the problem people don't read.
The programs you are promoting do not let you work on specific things.
To the OP. If you feel your daughter needs to be challenged more or the club training is not good she should be looking for a new team.

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The parent said she was looking for better competition for her daughter. If she's behind why is looking for better competition. That's the problem people don't read.
The programs you are promoting do not let you work on specific things.
To the OP. If you feel your daughter needs to be challenged more or the club training is not good she should be looking for a new team.

It isn't always so easy to make a move up the ladder at that age.

But the broader dilemma - "pre academy" (which isn't more than a marketing term and LISC is sh* show right now) vs staying at whatever her current club is (quality unknown) and do a supplemental program. If those are the two options go with the latter and look for a better club for a possible move after the fall season.

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It isn't always so easy to make a move up the ladder at that age.

But the broader dilemma - "pre academy" (which isn't more than a marketing term and LISC is sh* show right now) vs staying at whatever her current club is (quality unknown) and do a supplemental program. If those are the two options go with the latter and look for a better club for a possible move after the fall season.

The girl is 13 and you say ....
"it isn't always so easy to make a move up the ladder at that age".
Long Island soccer parent advice at its best.

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The girl is 13 and you say ....
"it isn't always so easy to make a move up the ladder at that age".
Long Island soccer parent advice at its best.

Not the poster but it's true - now with ECNL and even pre ECNL at earlier ages a lot of rosters are practically locked in by U13./U14. Clubs don't like cutting players for outsiders unless the player is outstanding. NPL is easier to reach, especially with GDA shifting the landscape.

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Not the poster but it's true - now with ECNL and even pre ECNL at earlier ages a lot of rosters are practically locked in by U13./U14. Clubs don't like cutting players for outsiders unless the player is outstanding. NPL is easier to reach, especially with GDA shifting the landscape.

ECNL is not what it was last year, East Meadow is hurting for #s and is taking anyone who can afford it.

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Not the poster but it's true - now with ECNL and even pre ECNL at earlier ages a lot of rosters are practically locked in by U13./U14. Clubs don't like cutting players for outsiders unless the player is outstanding. NPL is easier to reach, especially with GDA shifting the landscape.

If you are a player you can join at later than 14. If the team is underperforming then outsiders will be able to make the team too

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I think the extra training is a a reasonable first step. You could also try an RDS clinic from the red bulls or a center of excellence program from NYCSL. They are not as long a commitment and offer some very good training.

Why jump into ECNL or GDA until you have at least tried playing in a more competitive environment and see if it is for you? Just because EM, Albertson, and probably LISC and fury gdas at some age groups all need more paying players, does not mean the players need them. The travel required for those teams is a very different commitment of time and money.

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Not the poster but it's true - now with ECNL and even pre ECNL at earlier ages a lot of rosters are practically locked in by U13./U14. Clubs don't like cutting players for outsiders unless the player is outstanding. NPL is easier to reach, especially with GDA shifting the landscape.

Well you might as well be the other poster.
Rosters are locked? Such a foolish comment. You parents talk all this nonsense to instill fear in other parents so their kids do not try for teams so your child can keep their spot. There are so many kids playing in so called lower leagues who can easily walk on high level teams but theses parents think the players on those higher teams are superstars which they are not.
I'll assume your one of those " my kid has seniority at the club" parents.
If the club is good and has ambition they should be looking for new talent every year.
To the OP. Try out for teams. It's a great experience for your child. Have her work on her game at home. That's what makes the difference.