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vs all the pro GDA posts? I am the first to point out ECNL flaws, but they're in survival mode and are doing what they have to. I can't fault them for that. And truthfully GDA has plenty of its own flaws as well. -
Interesting discussion.
At some clubs it will be a mute argument to discuss either / or as ECNL will be kicked to the curb as soon as DA arrives.
It is already openly discussed by the higher ups that ECNL is dead at our club next year and DA will be the only elite level option.Comment
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Supposedly only a few top clubs will be allowed to do both. Who decides that and on what basis is unclear - most likely it's ECNL and they'll want to keep those top clubs in the league fro greater credibility. But realistically not many clubs are big enough to effectively do both. All the others are forced into making a choice. Some opting not to apply for GDA at all. GDA will happen, it will be fine, it will be the "top" league but not by a landslide. ECNL will be #2 but by a small margin. It isn't going away, much to USSF's consternationOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Maybe we are all looking at this wrong?
We are operating under the assumption this is a USSF power grab.
But could this be a USSF move to thwart future Title IX lawsuits brought on by the USWNT lawsuit over wages?
That would explain the joint venture with ECNL. USSF knows ECNL produces NT players at the various levels.
Interesting article on wage disparity
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/04/...ls-revolution/Comment
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Instruction is very important but IMO great players produce themselves. There were great players before the current top leagues existed and there will be great players when they are gone.Comment
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Doubtful. Besides, this won' t enhance their position as there's far less free play (in fact hardly any) or other support on the girls side. It only highlights the disparity. It might look good on paper but once you dig deeper you see it's really more about power/control. Both sides didn't want to play nice but I put more of the blame on USSF's shouldersOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You are correct. Didn't know USSF funding precludes it from Title IX
https://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/2015/02/...tion-of-funds/Comment
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Blame for what? For daring to operate a girl's DA? They should have done it all along when they started one on the boy's side.Comment
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The boys DA has been largely a failure. Why extend the failure into the girls side where they have had ECNL be very successful?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I doubt the talented kids learning to play soccer at a high level without breaking the bank would deem it a failure.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Failure? That's a strong term. I'd say it hasn't lived up to expectations. Yes it's mostly well and good at the MLS clubs. But they only make up about 1/3 of DA, and not every one of them is free. The rest are pay to play, just like GDA will be. Also, there are some clubs in DA that don't do any better job training than many top non DA clubs. DA has gotten rid of a few clubs but not that many. When the theory is more training, fewer games, but your training isn't as good - are you better off?
Also, PT is a big issue - yes there is a minimum number of starts but clubs don't always follow it and it's only starts, not game time (plenty will pull a player after a few minutes). If you're a bench player, particularly at a non MLS club, then DA's benefits are not as clear cut.Comment
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If it is great for the players at the MLS clubs then great for the players that get that opportunity. On BOTN it is posted that a DA in NJ has announced they will have free DA on the Girl's side for older age groups. It is hard to not to see the benefit to those players able to get into that program it it a quality program.Comment
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On the boy's side, are the rosters smaller at the free academies in contrast to the others?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Hard to generalize. For MLS club it's a sunk cost. They have to pay a coach regardless if it's 18 or 22 kids. The incremental costs of food and shared hotel rooms when the travel for those extra players is minimal. At a pay to play club you still pay your coach but you don't cover travel. Then you're getting some income from all players. If you break even at player #18 then #19-22 is extra frosting on the cakeOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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ECNL just announced TSC as its newest club. Third new club added this month. All 3 narratives say each club is "ECNL-only."
Are there some clubs going GDA only and ditching ECNL? Or maybe these announced clubs did not get a GDA.
Looks like ECNL is filling in geographical gaps. Is Westchester big enough of a "gap" to be filled with an ECNL club?Comment
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