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    #46
    Do you think the EPNL will become the equivalent of the ECNL for the girls? I'm thinking ECNL is trying to find a way to keep its "relevancy." I'm also thinking a few EPNL teams at each age group at an ECNL club = a funding source for the girls DAs at ECNL clubs.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Do you think the EPNL will become the equivalent of the ECNL for the girls? I'm thinking ECNL is trying to find a way to keep its "relevancy." I'm also thinking a few EPNL teams at each age group at an ECNL club = a funding source for the girls DAs at ECNL clubs.
      EPNL will never become the equivalency if ECNL beacuse of DAP. There are already boys NPL leagues which many of the ECNL clubs belong too (EDP, NEP, etc)

      There's a huge gulf between Boys DAP and NPL. Will EPNL lessen the Gulf, Yes.

      The EPNL will take some players from non MLS clubs. MLS clubs will be not impacted.

      EPNL may make recruiting of non DAP players easier for some Div 1 and many Div 2 schools

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        #48
        Talked to a women's DI buddy - one of the ones against the 10 months proposal from 2014. He's now favors it. 1/2 of his starting lineup was out with injurys last year and killed his season. Said it's hard on the women to play two games a week. Also interferes with their academics and 1 game a week would be better. Also said if a player is out 2 weeks due to injuries they miss 4 games under the current system but only 2 under the proposed one. I asked him about sitting on a losing fall season. "sh** man I get all winter to fix it!!"

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Talked to a women's DI buddy - one of the ones against the 10 months proposal from 2014. He's now favors it. 1/2 of his starting lineup was out with injurys last year and killed his season. Said it's hard on the women to play two games a week. Also interferes with their academics and 1 game a week would be better. Also said if a player is out 2 weeks due to injuries they miss 4 games under the current system but only 2 under the proposed one. I asked him about sitting on a losing fall season. "sh** man I get all winter to fix it!!"
          See ..

          Positive academic impact for the students.
          Better for the athletes ...
          Better for the coaches.
          Better for the NCAA ...
          Better for the Game ...
          LOL ... LOL ... LOL

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            #50
            Latest WaPo article

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...4383&tid=ss_tw

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              This makes sense. They train all school year anyway, plus the real clincher is the students will miss less school. What could possibly be the down side? Thoughts?

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This makes sense. They train all school year anyway, plus the real clincher is the students will miss less school. What could possibly be the down side? Thoughts?
                Losing elibility for spring season due to grades?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  EPNL will never become the equivalency if ECNL beacuse of DAP. There are already boys NPL leagues which many of the ECNL clubs belong too (EDP, NEP, etc)

                  There's a huge gulf between Boys DAP and NPL. Will EPNL lessen the Gulf, Yes.

                  The EPNL will take some players from non MLS clubs. MLS clubs will be not impacted.

                  EPNL may make recruiting of non DAP players easier for some Div 1 and many Div 2 schools
                  Really what is going to end up happening is it will be a watered down mess, with variations geographically as to who is stronger or weaker. the one thing that will remain is the strength of the MLS piece. But if non MLS clubs really start to bleed players to ENPL and the overall competition gets weaker I can see MLS clubs pushing to separate.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This makes sense. They train all school year anyway, plus the real clincher is the students will miss less school. What could possibly be the down side? Thoughts?
                    Positives as stated. Downsides

                    - Players push some of their tougher courses/more intensive ones (especially if there's a lab) to the "off season" currently. If the season is basically all year that will be tough to do. The all year proposal takes of some of the travel pressure but not all and guarantee they'll be practicing on the days that used to be for travel. It also reduces the ability to do internships in the off season.

                    - Other sports may demand the same thing. From 30,000 feet there's no way universities want that to happen. And how can the NCAA justify doing it for one sport and not others? They can't.
                    - Even if soccer is the only one it puts additional pressure on budgets and resources (like fields). Soccer is not a revenue sport as it is

                    - Finally, read this quote from the article

                    "Many pro and national team coaches have complained the college season is too compressed to adequately develop players for the next level. Top prospects often leave college soccer after one or two years because of limited benefits."

                    Universities don't care about producing professional athletes; it isn't their goal. They offer sports to attract top students they want, get alumni support, create school spirit etc. Players leaving for the pros happens already in basketball and football. Again, do we now extend their seasons as well?

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Positives as stated. Downsides

                      - Players push some of their tougher courses/more intensive ones (especially if there's a lab) to the "off season" currently. If the season is basically all year that will be tough to do. The all year proposal takes of some of the travel pressure but not all and guarantee they'll be practicing on the days that used to be for travel. It also reduces the ability to do internships in the off season.

                      - Other sports may demand the same thing. From 30,000 feet there's no way universities want that to happen. And how can the NCAA justify doing it for one sport and not others? They can't.
                      - Even if soccer is the only one it puts additional pressure on budgets and resources (like fields). Soccer is not a revenue sport as it is

                      - Finally, read this quote from the article

                      "Many pro and national team coaches have complained the college season is too compressed to adequately develop players for the next level. Top prospects often leave college soccer after one or two years because of limited benefits."

                      Universities don't care about producing professional athletes; it isn't their goal. They offer sports to attract top students they want, get alumni support, create school spirit etc. Players leaving for the pros happens already in basketball and football. Again, do we now extend their seasons as well?
                      Universities don't care about producing pros? How do you explain college football and basketball? Men's Basketball is one and done

                      Universities CARE if they can make MONEY off the sport.

                      PS basketball season extends over multiple semesters.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Universities don't care about producing pros? How do you explain college football and basketball? Men's Basketball is one and done

                        Universities CARE if they can make MONEY off the sport.

                        PS basketball season extends over multiple semesters.
                        No they don't care about developing pro athletes. Depending on the school they care about 1) what makes them money. Soccer is not a revenue sport.
                        2) education. yes some schools (many in fact) do care about that, not success in college sports
                        3) a combination

                        PS: Basketball is still compressed to five months with 25+ games, plus conference and NCAA playoffs if you make it. You don't think they'd be asking to extend their season as well? That's where the OP is spot on - do it for one then you have to do it for all. Schools will not want to do that

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                          #57
                          College coaches can put pro players on their resume when applying for jobs. May not be their goal but they'll take some partial credit.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            No they don't care about developing pro athletes. Depending on the school they care about 1) what makes them money. Soccer is not a revenue sport.
                            2) education. yes some schools (many in fact) do care about that, not success in college sports
                            3) a combination

                            PS: Basketball is still compressed to five months with 25+ games, plus conference and NCAA playoffs if you make it. You don't think they'd be asking to extend their season as well? That's where the OP is spot on - do it for one then you have to do it for all. Schools will not want to do that
                            Many Colleges care about producing professional athletes.

                            Otherwise, they wouldn't
                            - drop their academic standards for athletes
                            - brag about their number one draft picks or number of pros
                            - allow pro teams on campus for pro days
                            - have tutors for them.
                            - make money off them
                            - allow one and dones.

                            Many colleges care about creating proessionals as well ( engineers, lawyers, doctors)

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Many Colleges care about producing professional athletes.

                              Otherwise, they wouldn't
                              - drop their academic standards for athletes
                              - brag about their number one draft picks or number of pros
                              - allow pro teams on campus for pro days
                              - have tutors for them.
                              - make money off them
                              - allow one and dones.

                              Many colleges care about creating proessionals as well ( engineers, lawyers, doctors)
                              Most in women's soccer care about their APR

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Many Colleges care about producing professional athletes.

                                Otherwise, they wouldn't
                                - drop their academic standards for athletes
                                - brag about their number one draft picks or number of pros
                                - allow pro teams on campus for pro days
                                - have tutors for them.
                                - make money off them
                                - allow one and dones.

                                Many colleges care about creating proessionals as well ( engineers, lawyers, doctors)
                                They do all of that for the big revenue sports. They need smart soccer players to help their average athlete GPA :)

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