CSA Cements itself as the WORST Academy with THIS

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Are you serious? This kind of response is exactly why these topics go round and round and never get anywhere. Nobody is saying anything about lowering standards and your assumption of bias is a standard response to accuse me of something that's not true. It's not hard to imagine that once an employer requires a qualification of getting a job solely based on gender that standards won't be the same if gender wasn't looked at. If more women want to coach I think it would be great, but don't make it easier for them just because they're a woman. Everyone should be judged equally. All coaches matter. Haha

Again who said anything about unqualified women should get the job? you did not answer the question.

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Again who said anything about unqualified women should get the job? you did not answer the question.

No one said anything about unqualified women should get the job, I guess the OP assumption is that it would lead to people loosening their standards in order to achieve a quota.

I certainly see how that assumption could happen but I also see how we have used that as an excuse to deny opportunity to non white males in both the sports world and the corporate world. As another poster wrote it hasn't been that long ago that the excuse for not having black NFL quarterbacks was that they were not qualified.

we must be careful with our assumptions

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The only diversity I see is in the office staff.

https://www.cedarstars.com/monmouth-staff

I think this is outdated.

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You made an implicit bias assumption that women are being kept out of club coaching opportunities because of a boys-club culture at these clubs. Do you have any data/information to legitimately support this POV? Unless you do, then your position on this has no more/less validity than the idea that there is a smaller supply of women coaches who want to be club coaches.

Long Island SC has a female DOC for the girls program, yet LISC only has 3 female coaches among 17 staff coaches. Assuming a woman DOC would not have a boys-club mentality, you could conclude that they have fewer qualified female coaches applying for coaching positions there than qualified male coaches.

No sir that was not me, I look at the data and see that youth soccer coaches are overwhelmingly white males in a society where they represent only 29 percent of the population( 71 percent of the population are non white males in America) History has definitively shown us that this inequity exist across industries. Old boys networks are as common slavery was in this society. No implicit assumptions need to made. They are explicit data points in and of America. We as a society are now acknowledging it and are trying to do better-We even have laws to try and combat those systemic inequities. some,of course, would prefer the old system to stay in place.

I am reminded about an old saying that goes " Its hard to make a man understand when his paycheck/power is dependent on him not understanding".


with that I am signing off, this is a fruitless conversation with a man whose doesn't like the changing of America.

Good Day Sir

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No sir that was not me, I look at the data and see that youth soccer coaches are overwhelmingly white males in a society where they represent only 29 percent of the population( 71 percent of the population are non white males in America) History has definitively shown us that this inequity exist across industries. Old boys networks are as common slavery was in this society. No implicit assumptions need to made. They are explicit data points in and of America. We as a society are now acknowledging it and are trying to do better-We even have laws to try and combat those systemic inequities. some,of course, would prefer the old system to stay in place.

I am reminded about an old saying that goes " Its hard to make a man understand when his paycheck/power is dependent on him not understanding".


with that I am signing off, this is a fruitless conversation with a man whose doesn't like the changing of America.

Good Day Sir

Who is it that become soccer coaches? Former players. Who dominates the US youth soccer market? White males, followed by white females. The example above of LISC having a female DOC yet only 3 female coaches is very telling. There just isn't a large supply of female coaches out there and the better ones take the more appealing coaching positions, like college or DOC positions in LISC case. NYSC girls had a female coach that went into the pros. I think there are many opportunities for women out there but not enough female coaches.

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Who is it that become soccer coaches? Former players. Who dominates the US youth soccer market? White males, followed by white females. The example above of LISC having a female DOC yet only 3 female coaches is very telling. There just isn't a large supply of female coaches out there and the better ones take the more appealing coaching positions, like college or DOC positions in LISC case. NYSC girls had a female coach that went into the pros. I think there are many opportunities for women out there but not enough female coaches.

Its actually white females followed by white males.

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No sir that was not me, I look at the data and see that youth soccer coaches are overwhelmingly white males in a society where they represent only 29 percent of the population( 71 percent of the population are non white males in America) History has definitively shown us that this inequity exist across industries. Old boys networks are as common slavery was in this society. No implicit assumptions need to made. They are explicit data points in and of America. We as a society are now acknowledging it and are trying to do better-We even have laws to try and combat those systemic inequities. some,of course, would prefer the old system to stay in place.

I am reminded about an old saying that goes " Its hard to make a man understand when his paycheck/power is dependent on him not understanding".


with that I am signing off, this is a fruitless conversation with a man whose doesn't like the changing of America.

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What are you using in your data model to represent "Old boys network"? You can look at as much data as you want, but there is no data to show any discernible or statistically-credible causation of what that data shows. Just because "old boys networks" have existed elsewhere in society does not mean you can apply it to everything. Again, I am not disputing that an imbalance (a "problem") exists, but rather I am disputing the CAUSE which you are putting forth.

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Who is it that become soccer coaches? Former players. Who dominates the US youth soccer market? White males, followed by white females. The example above of LISC having a female DOC yet only 3 female coaches is very telling. There just isn't a large supply of female coaches out there and the better ones take the more appealing coaching positions, like college or DOC positions in LISC case. NYSC girls had a female coach that went into the pros. I think there are many opportunities for women out there but not enough female coaches.

FYI - my D (now in college) had 4 club coaches over the course of her youth career. 2 were white male, 2 were black male. The club she played for had numerous black coaches. So I'm not buying the "white male old boys network".

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Its actually white females followed by white males.

No there's more boys playing soccer than girls in total number up until college where they're almost equal (at about 42K per gender). Title 9 pumps up the women side. The men's side has fewer D1 programs but more players in all the other college levels.

The highest level coaches often times have pro experience, and there obviously few women follow that path

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What are you using in your data model to represent "Old boys network"? You can look at as much data as you want, but there is no data to show any discernible or statistically-credible causation of what that data shows. Just because "old boys networks" have existed elsewhere in society does not mean you can apply it to everything. Again, I am not disputing that an imbalance (a "problem") exists, but rather I am disputing the CAUSE which you are putting forth.

Thank you! One poster (or a few?) can't seem to grasp that important distinction. An imbalance caused by lesser femae interest in a coaching career is not the same thing as women getting blocked from coaching opportunities. The former is the reason, not the latter

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FYI - my D (now in college) had 4 club coaches over the course of her youth career. 2 were white male, 2 were black male. The club she played for had numerous black coaches. So I'm not buying the "white male old boys network".

Please an anecdotal story does not make up for the imbalances America

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Thank you! One poster (or a few?) can't seem to grasp that important distinction. An imbalance caused by lesser femae interest in a coaching career is not the same thing as women getting blocked from coaching opportunities. The former is the reason, not the latter

The same is often said about the absence of Black NFL quarterbacks in the 80's

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The same is often said about the absence of Black NFL quarterbacks in the 80's

They old we cant find enough qualified candidates or they are not interested in those jobs

or women are more interested in raising families

yeah, yeah, that's the ticket.


Just more excuses to justify doing nothing.


"IF you build it, they will come"

but first you have got to want to build it.


and stop making excuses so you can continue inaction


They are still trying to hire more black NFL coaches, its a been a problem for years.

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They old we cant find enough qualified candidates or they are not interested in those jobs

or women are more interested in raising families

yeah, yeah, that's the ticket.


Just more excuses to justify doing nothing.


"IF you build it, they will come"

but first you have got to want to build it.


and stop making excuses so you can continue inaction


They are still trying to hire more black NFL coaches, its a been a problem for years.

Clearly this issue matters a great deal to you since you can't stop posting about it, but what are your solutions?

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Clearly this issue matters a great deal to you since you can't stop posting about it, but what are your solutions?

No one who posts on this internet rag gives a rats ass about this off topic bs thread. They care about where to put their kid for the best opportunities and training. Take this dumb thread and bury it already. I’m sick of seeing it. Peace out.