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No one tried to brainwash people more than GDA and GA tried. Especially when USSF backed, the whole mantra was the only way to college or the USNT! Give me a break. ECNL could boast about its historical successes (very impressive) at GDA (and again at GA) Launch, all we heard about was how the only way to D1 money or the USNT was through our league .... GTFOH! Have fun eating crow loser.

Agreed an overinflated and overhyped league. Why else would top players and top clubs be jumping ship (and even creating petitions) to get out of the GA to ECNL. Speaks for itself. When I see ECNL clubs join the GA then I’ll maybe drink a bit of kool aid. Until then the writing is on the wall. Cheers

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Agreed an overinflated and overhyped league. Why else would top players and top clubs be jumping ship (and even creating petitions) to get out of the GA to ECNL. Speaks for itself. When I see ECNL clubs join the GA then I’ll maybe drink a bit of kool aid. Until then the writing is on the wall. Cheers

Writing is on the wall for who ?

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Agreed an overinflated and overhyped league. Why else would top players and top clubs be jumping ship (and even creating petitions) to get out of the GA to ECNL. Speaks for itself. When I see ECNL clubs join the GA then I’ll maybe drink a bit of kool aid. Until then the writing is on the wall. Cheers

You still don't get the basic premise. Lack of competition in NJ ECNL hurts kids development. NJ ECNL clubs sit back and milk the licenses. I hope this is not the case around the rest of the country.

NJ ECNL is good for showcases now, and best players develop outside of PDA/MF and move to ECNL at u15-16 - just look at the U15 PDA team from 2017-18 vs U18/19 team now. How would "outsiders" be able to join the team with such ease if PDA was really developing players?

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You still don't get the basic premise. Lack of competition in NJ ECNL hurts kids development. NJ ECNL clubs sit back and milk the licenses. I hope this is not the case around the rest of the country.

NJ ECNL is good for showcases now, and best players develop outside of PDA/MF and move to ECNL at u15-16 - just look at the U15 PDA team from 2017-18 vs U18/19 team now. How would "outsiders" be able to join the team with such ease if PDA was really developing players?

Again, who cares about what players are developed by a club. Parents are really caught up on that especially when players come over from other clubs. Not every piece f charcoal turns into a diamond. ECNL Clubs can’t guarantee that every player at U9 will develop into a core player by U16. That is on the player not the club. If you have a highly competitive club with highly competitive players then a core player in another league, another team will want to be challenged and make a move to that better team. That’s sport, that’s life. That’s what ECNL is all about. PDA develops players but every player is different. You can teach skill and technical abilities but you can’t develop athleticism, speed, quickness and size. That is what separates the players once they mature.

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You still don't get the basic premise. Lack of competition in NJ ECNL hurts kids development. NJ ECNL clubs sit back and milk the licenses. I hope this is not the case around the rest of the country.

NJ ECNL is good for showcases now, and best players develop outside of PDA/MF and move to ECNL at u15-16 - just look at the U15 PDA team from 2017-18 vs U18/19 team now. How would "outsiders" be able to join the team with such ease if PDA was really developing players?

This is the height of stupidity and shows a complete lack of understanding. Coach's and players are people, not robots. Also, the ECNL teams do very well when you consider how small the clubs are compared to the clubs they play against nationally and even somewhat regionally, using Stars as an example. The great majority of the players at PDA and MFA are there prior to U15. Stop with the lies.

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Again, who cares about what players are developed by a club. Parents are really caught up on that especially when players come over from other clubs. Not every piece f charcoal turns into a diamond. ECNL Clubs can’t guarantee that every player at U9 will develop into a core player by U16. That is on the player not the club. If you have a highly competitive club with highly competitive players then a core player in another league, another team will want to be challenged and make a move to that better team. That’s sport, that’s life. That’s what ECNL is all about. PDA develops players but every player is different. You can teach skill and technical abilities but you can’t develop athleticism, speed, quickness and size. That is what separates the players once they mature.

Never understood why people assume it is bigger challenge. Its a different one and it is not guaranteed to produce a better result. What separates players is the speed at which they can execute technically.

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You still don't get the basic premise. Lack of competition in NJ ECNL hurts kids development. NJ ECNL clubs sit back and milk the licenses. I hope this is not the case around the rest of the country.

NJ ECNL is good for showcases now, and best players develop outside of PDA/MF and move to ECNL at u15-16 - just look at the U15 PDA team from 2017-18 vs U18/19 team now. How would "outsiders" be able to join the team with such ease if PDA was really developing players?

That happens at nearly all clubs - the soccer world is a tight funnel at that age. Better players and those with college aspirations gravitate towards the clubs that offer them good training, challenging competition and college exposure. It happens at GDA/GAL and BDA/MLS. By high school many players will have been "developed" somewhere else

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You still don't get the basic premise. Lack of competition in NJ ECNL hurts kids development. NJ ECNL clubs sit back and milk the licenses. I hope this is not the case around the rest of the country.

Isn't this more an issue that the non-NJ ECNL teams are so bad? I'm sure FC Bucks says "ECNL competition is great because we get to play PDA Blue and MFA", but PDA Blue and MFA can't point to other clubs (maybe Penn Fusion) and say they play great competition? So it's not about adding more NJ teams to ECNL, but finding better PA and MD teams to join?

NJ ECNL is good for showcases now, and best players develop outside of PDA/MF and move to ECNL at u15-16 - just look at the U15 PDA team from 2017-18 vs U18/19 team now. How would "outsiders" be able to join the team with such ease if PDA was really developing players?

It would be very presumptuous to assume that all parents of young players (younger than U14) think about their kid making the sacrifices to travel far to join a club like PDA. So you see more local players at PDA at those younger ages. For these other players at other clubs, moving them to PDA at U14-16 makes complete sense once these families get a sense that the kid wants to pursue college soccer and are looking for the best platform to do that.

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Does the ECNL pay some of these posters who constantly feel it's necessary to write things about the GAL? It's amazing how these posters have all this "inside" info about GAL teams such as all the kids that left to go play for ECNL teams, teams that are begging to get out and the overall quality of teams that are located all over the country. It almost feels as if the ECNL has created a propaganda machine to try and bring down the GAL. Why would a league like the ECNL, who promotes itself as the top league need to lower themselves and litter an anonymous soccer board with constant cheap shots to another league that's obviously inferior?

Does anyone know how I can get paid for posting about ECNL and GA? I accept bitcoin

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Again, who cares about what players are developed by a club. Parents are really caught up on that especially when players come over from other clubs. Not every piece f charcoal turns into a diamond. ECNL Clubs can’t guarantee that every player at U9 will develop into a core player by U16. That is on the player not the club. If you have a highly competitive club with highly competitive players then a core player in another league, another team will want to be challenged and make a move to that better team. That’s sport, that’s life. That’s what ECNL is all about. PDA develops players but every player is different. You can teach skill and technical abilities but you can’t develop athleticism, speed, quickness and size. That is what separates the players once they mature.

It’s so true, I’m seeing it at my local club. The parents don’t get it, they are delusional, they think once you make it at one of the big clubs, your spot is preserved as you grow older which is so far from the truth, especially post puberty when teams start to consolidate. There are so many mitigating factors that can’t be controlled. It’s like your kid is 9, stop it already. There are so many attributes to a great player and just because your kid has one or two, doesn’t mean the others will develop at the same pace or even at all. Then you have the physical intangibles which may or may not top out at a certain point. These are the same parents who sign up for every single type of extra training possible but the results don’t translate in a game. There are so many other ways to go about it.

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It’s so true, I’m seeing it at my local club. The parents don’t get it, they are delusional, they think once you make it at one of the big clubs, your spot is preserved as you grow older which is so far from the truth, especially post puberty when teams start to consolidate. There are so many mitigating factors that can’t be controlled. It’s like your kid is 9, stop it already. There are so many attributes to a great player and just because your kid has one or two, doesn’t mean the others will develop at the same pace or even at all. Then you have the physical intangibles which may or may not top out at a certain point. These are the same parents who sign up for every single type of extra training possible but the results don’t translate in a game. There are so many other ways to go about it.

There's plenty of kids who seemed to be studs at U11 that wind up average by high school. Often times they were bigger or faster or older. Then puberty hits and it all gets changed up. Other kids who kept working on their skills start to pass them up. Once in HS mental toughness starts to become just as important as skills and physical toughness. Some kids can't handle that or don't want to. They drop out of soccer and often focus on a different sport they like more, or drop back to something that's a better fit. There's a very tight funnel in youth soccer as the HS years approach and it won't always be dominated by those U little studs. Some studs will always be studs.

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It’s so true, I’m seeing it at my local club. The parents don’t get it, they are delusional, they think once you make it at one of the big clubs, your spot is preserved as you grow older which is so far from the truth, especially post puberty when teams start to consolidate. There are so many mitigating factors that can’t be controlled. It’s like your kid is 9, stop it already. There are so many attributes to a great player and just because your kid has one or two, doesn’t mean the others will develop at the same pace or even at all. Then you have the physical intangibles which may or may not top out at a certain point. These are the same parents who sign up for every single type of extra training possible but the results don’t translate in a game. There are so many other ways to go about it.

To further that point, instead of focusing on development and quality trainers/coaches parents get sucked in to a brand or league and spend hundreds of dollars a month for outside training which in all reality doesn’t bring the value they may think. Most kids that young can’t translate it to the field and all you are doing is pushing harder and harder and harder for them to to be better. Meanwhile other 9,10,11 year olds are receiving quality training because most parents recognize this is a marathon and not a sprint. Just because your ulittle is on the top team now, doesn’t mean anything when she is 14-15. While I guess it’s great to brag and say that you have a top ulittle team, it also sounds really silly to most people who know it doesn’t mean anything at all in the long run. No hate, just fact.

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So did many of the other clubs that went back to ECNL, in fact a few were tops in the country. That's when we knew GDA was in trouble. It wasn't just the Empire United's leaving/getting kicked out but TOP clubs.

Yes, the writing was on the wall even before the DA collapsed

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There's plenty of kids who seemed to be studs at U11 that wind up average by high school. Often times they were bigger or faster or older. Then puberty hits and it all gets changed up. Other kids who kept working on their skills start to pass them up. Once in HS mental toughness starts to become just as important as skills and physical toughness. Some kids can't handle that or don't want to. They drop out of soccer and often focus on a different sport they like more, or drop back to something that's a better fit. There's a very tight funnel in youth soccer as the HS years approach and it won't always be dominated by those U little studs. Some studs will always be studs.

So true. My kid didn't make the town B team at u8. At u9 while in the B team, those A team players looked so much better. Now in HS it is a completely different story. It was really my kid liking the sport and deciding to go play soccer with friends almost every day that made the difference.