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The ECNL has brainwashed many into believing they're the only "pathway" to college soccer. If parents actually believe their kids will have an advantage getting recruited solely based on the ECNL badge they're seriously mistaken. The top players on ECNL clubs will be recruited heavily, as are the top players on GA teams, all other players will have to market themselves to get seen by a college coach. The top D1 coaches who go to showcases are only looking at 1-3% of the girls playing so if your daughter isn't one of these players don't expect Anson Dorrance to walk up to you. The other D1, D2 and D3 schools won't go to showcases anymore cause they don't have budgets for recruiting unless the showcase happens to be in the area of their school. The ECNL wants all of their parents/players to think the only way for them to get into a D1 school is through them playing for an ECNL team when in reality players 5 and up on the depth chart aren't getting recruited at all. Parents should focus on their daughter's coach and their development not the team they play for cause all of the other "noise" created by those in the "know" is b.s.

As an earlier post stated, ECNL has only shown that it is the “best” path to playing at any level of soccer that you chose. To us the word “brainwash” would mean it’s not factual and is made up. All you have to do is your own research to see if it’s factual. Attend an ECNL College showcase and see the list of coaches who plan to attend. See how many head coaches and their staff actually are on the sidelines watching these matches. The proof is seeing it for yourself. Then go on the websites for ECNL clubs and look at their commitment lists for at least 3 years and see how the club is rated by colleges in placing players. Lastly, if your daughter has a list of colleges of which she has a realistic chance to be recruited look at that colleges roster and see where the players had played club soccer. That is real and factual. That is not being brainwashed but rather data that either supports ECNL as being the best pathway or not.

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or was it because nycfc stopped supporting?

NYCFC had mostly supported GDA by letting Kaz run the whole thing with NYCFC providing uniforms. Once they left GDA, NYCFC continued (and still continues) to let WC ECNL/ECRL teams use NYCFC on their uniforms. Pretty much it was up to Kaz to decide whether they stayed or left GDA, and Kaz listened to the families.

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The ECNL has brainwashed many into believing they're the only "pathway" to college soccer. If parents actually believe their kids will have an advantage getting recruited solely based on the ECNL badge they're seriously mistaken. The top players on ECNL clubs will be recruited heavily, as are the top players on GA teams, all other players will have to market themselves to get seen by a college coach. The top D1 coaches who go to showcases are only looking at 1-3% of the girls playing so if your daughter isn't one of these players don't expect Anson Dorrance to walk up to you. The other D1, D2 and D3 schools won't go to showcases anymore cause they don't have budgets for recruiting unless the showcase happens to be in the area of their school. The ECNL wants all of their parents/players to think the only way for them to get into a D1 school is through them playing for an ECNL team when in reality players 5 and up on the depth chart aren't getting recruited at all. Parents should focus on their daughter's coach and their development not the team they play for cause all of the other "noise" created by those in the "know" is b.s.

No one tried to brainwash people more than GDA and GA tried. Especially when USSF backed, the whole mantra was the only way to college or the USNT! Give me a break. ECNL could boast about its historical successes (very impressive) at GDA (and again at GA) Launch, all we heard about was how the only way to D1 money or the USNT was through our league .... GTFOH! Have fun eating crow loser.

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GDA was a direct aim at the ECNL to try to bring it down and it was a crap episode for all involved at the expense of kids trying to play soccer. So there is that.

Exactly. None of these leagues are innocent nor looking out for the best interest of your kids. That said the GA started the war.

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Exactly. None of these leagues are innocent nor looking out for the best interest of your kids. That said the GA started the war.

Well they should not have started it if they could not win and there was nothing about their strategy that pointed to a win. You have to wonder if they even spoke to their customers or did any market research.

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Exactly. None of these leagues are innocent nor looking out for the best interest of your kids. That said the GA started the war.

Absolutely

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Exactly. None of these leagues are innocent nor looking out for the best interest of your kids. That said the GA started the war.

ECNL started the war by shutting out competition and ripping off parents with great marketing and crappy development platform at a high cost. In 10 years ECNL has not allowed any new clubs in NJ and then all of a sudden "lets add 2 more licenses and give it to PDA". Do you think people are stupid not to see this as an anti-competitive move?

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ECNL started the war by shutting out competition and ripping off parents with great marketing and crappy development platform at a high cost. In 10 years ECNL has not allowed any new clubs in NJ and then all of a sudden "lets add 2 more licenses and give it to PDA". Do you think people are stupid not to see this as an anti-competitive move?

Agree. Furthering the argument is if MF Shore does get a badge, like some say, this will further dilute the integrity of ECNL.

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ECNL started the war by shutting out competition and ripping off parents with great marketing and crappy development platform at a high cost. In 10 years ECNL has not allowed any new clubs in NJ and then all of a sudden "lets add 2 more licenses and give it to PDA". Do you think people are stupid not to see this as an anti-competitive move?

How is it anti-competitive? If anything, it provides an opening for other leagues to compete. If they just kept adding new clubs, then new leagues trying to be "elite" would stand no chance because they would lose their clubs to ECNL.

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Agree. Furthering the argument is if MF Shore does get a badge, like some say, this will further dilute the integrity of ECNL.

If they give a badge to MF Shore and dilute the integrity of ECNL, then other leagues have a competitive opening to overtake ECNL. So I don't see how any of that is "anti-competitive".

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If they give a badge to MF Shore and dilute the integrity of ECNL, then other leagues have a competitive opening to overtake ECNL. So I don't see how any of that is "anti-competitive".

So you think PDA shore earned and deserved an ECNL badge? Or was it because of their affiliation that got them it? MF Shore is the same scenario. They have one team that they are using to get in. Same team that got their coach a job in the first place. It’s not about club merit, it’s simply about affiliation. That is obvious to many.

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So you think PDA shore earned and deserved an ECNL badge? Or was it because of their affiliation that got them it? MF Shore is the same scenario. They have one team that they are using to get in. Same team that got their coach a job in the first place. It’s not about club merit, it’s simply about affiliation. That is obvious to many.

No, I'm saying that all of these questionable moves by ECNL make it possible for other leagues like GAL to compete to become the top league in the area. They are not anti-competitive moves, but rather they provide opportunity for other leagues to attract better players.

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ECNL started the war by shutting out competition and ripping off parents with great marketing and crappy development platform at a high cost. In 10 years ECNL has not allowed any new clubs in NJ and then all of a sudden "lets add 2 more licenses and give it to PDA". Do you think people are stupid not to see this as an anti-competitive move?

True but the gda did nothing to fix that. They just tried to replicate the same basic model in a different league. It was just mcdonald's vs burger king with not enough customers for both.

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Players should focus on the characteristics of the Club, not a league. If the Club fits you, you stand a better chance of maximizing your potential.

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Does the ECNL pay some of these posters who constantly feel it's necessary to write things about the GAL? It's amazing how these posters have all this "inside" info about GAL teams such as all the kids that left to go play for ECNL teams, teams that are begging to get out and the overall quality of teams that are located all over the country. It almost feels as if the ECNL has created a propaganda machine to try and bring down the GAL. Why would a league like the ECNL, who promotes itself as the top league need to lower themselves and litter an anonymous soccer board with constant cheap shots to another league that's obviously inferior?

Because GDA constantly attacked ECNL and even stated they “wanted to put them out of business”. Payback is a bitch as they say. Make sense to you now?