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    Setting The Record Straight

    Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

    1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

    2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

    3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

    4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

    5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
    comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

    6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

    1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

    2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

    3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

    4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

    5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
    comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

    6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.
    more speculative crap about MF and CSA from someone who wants to set the record straight (or just deflect from PSA). yawn.

    lets not forget that CSA has 2 teams in MLS league if you doubt their commitment to coaching or facilities while MF has not made champions league consistently for a long long time.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

      1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

      2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

      3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

      4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

      5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
      comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

      6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.
      I'll bite.

      1. I tend to agree with this, but there are a limited amount of ECNL roster spots available and there could be more than x very good players out there to fill them. I'm not saying GA is going to be better than ECNL, but it still could be okay in this area.

      2. Totally agree but unfortunately it's their tag line from the very beginning. Not sure it's going away.

      3. No one ever said the kids on the whole weren't good enough to be the MF ECNL team next year, the discussion has been the claim by RT that the shore location would have ECNL and that he would be the 09 ECNL coach. I have no idea about him being the coach, but highly doubt that the shore location will ever get the badge. Whether the kids on the shore team have to go to Denville for ECNL I don't care about at all.

      4. Yes but going back to #1, there has to be a piece to go if you're aren't near an ECNL team or don't want to deal with 20+ kids on a roster. No doubt though that all GA teams are going to have a hard time initially.

      5. Agreed that the way to get better is what you both inside the club combined with external training. The issue that had brought up again and again is that external training shouldn't be a replacement for substandard training by the actual coach. That 3k you spend shouldn't just be a vehicle to have your kid play with other good kids. Your kid should be getting great training by their coach that the kid wants to add to by doing stuff outside the team. That's how they better long term.

      6. Ridiculous. Things are "getting better" because things like vaccinations, masking, distancing, etc. works. There is no miraculous covid going away because Trump is out of office and there was never going to be. It's a dumb talking point but dumb people. There obviously needs to be a reckoning on this though as each state is choosing to follow whatever rules they want under the guise of "science" instead of there having been national standards and mandates. Let's have the same rules and things open and closed throughout the country based on actual data instead of the whims of politicians.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

        1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

        2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

        3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

        4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

        5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
        comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

        6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.

        The fact that you call what we are dealing with a magic show tells me a lot about you in so little words. If it was a magic show, then all of the people that have died, including 3 of my family members should just magically appear again right? I might have agreed with you on some of the other points, but this is no f-ing magic show. This is real life where people are actually losing people they love. And its insulting when people make statements like this.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

          1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

          2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

          3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

          4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

          5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
          comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

          6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.
          1) Agree somewhat, there are PLENTY of players at D1 schools that did not come from ECNL. Plenty that did. I don’t think ECNL is a lock to visibility etc..

          2) We are the Shore is laughable but they will use it forever.

          3) The 09 ECNL debate is ridiculous. What RT did to the north team a few months ago is so indicative of how RT handles everything, lots of drama and aggravation just to get what he/his parents want. Step on everyone else mentality. The 09’s work hard. Let’s see how it shakes out.

          4) MFA shore barely has teams, not an option. PDA shore is a hike for most locally, but seems silly to go south instead of north.. CSA has some quality coaches and awesome facilities. Depends on what everyone is looking for and what their priorities are. Time will tell.

          5) it’s been posted a zillion times over that RT can’t train. I have no problem with outside training IF you aren’t doing it because what you are receiving from your coach is less than subpar. For the most part, they do it so they don’t fall behind because they know they are not receiving quality. Which is crazy with the amount they are paying for tuition, travel all over and outside trainers.

          6) the dictating on how people should feel about quarantine needs to stop. Not your business. If one player/parent/coach is uncomfortable with travel etc. then it’s one too many. It should be universal that you stay in your state for play. Easy as that.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Since most posts are completely ridiculous/mostly biased let's try and set the record straight on the things that people seem obsessed with....

            1) The DA disbanding without a doubt hurt those that used it as a shield against the ECNL teams. It without a doubt strengthens the ECNL clubs, and while the GAL is still a bit of an unknown, it is never going to be anything more then EDP soccer at best while traveling to far away places. They can claim all the want but the proof is that most GAL clubs would cut off an arm to get an ECNL spot/invite.

            2) "We are the Shore" has got to go...while it's comical at times you need to get a life.

            3) Everyone seems to be concerned with the MFA 09 Shore ECNL spot - you need to move on. They already have the ECNL spot, maybe it'll be out of Denville, but they'll be in the ECNL next Fall. I could see MFA Shore getting ECNL at some point but it might take a year to two. Regardless, it seems like MFA is going to award whichever team location deserves it more.

            4) The DA folding up is going to put a hurt on CSA - best facilities in NJ and top 5 in the country for sure but the program is going to be challenged over the next 18 months to field quality teams and complete against the like of PDA South, MFA Shore, etc as those players are going to realize that life in the GAL isn't worth the 3k tuition.

            5) People should realize that "team practices" are just that - team practices. For all of you who obsess over who is the best coach/club coach/college coach - take your pick - players individual that want to play on a high level need constant coaching and training to get them out of there
            comfort zone. To be a really got player you need to play/train ALL the time...it's the lazy parents that think because that they pay a 2-3k tuition for a soccer club think that there kids don't need more outside training...for some that may be enough but to play at a certain level your likely going to need a lot more...each kid is different but for those that want to train more - great! For those that don't want more training then don't. There is no right or wrong just whatever path your or your child choose.

            6) Lastly, the quarantine talk needs to stop...amazing how three weeks post Trump leaving office that areas and stadium are opening up and all seems to be getting better again. I guess a lot has changed in three weeks. It is a scary virus for some, obviously more so for people with underlying conditions. We can't have youth sports/schools shutdown anymore - it has been one of the greatest magic shows of our lives and has done a tremendous disservice to our kids, effects that we might not know for 5-10 years from now.
            Wow a long post but lots of very good points...it’s kind of unfair what happened to GAL but you’re right to generalize what it is and what it won’t become. If GAL teams continue to lose to EDP teams 7-1 not a good look for the league. Thanks for sharing your insight though.

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              #7
              Stop all your bull****! Everyone hating on the shore !! Dont be jelly ! We are the SHORE !!!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wow a long post but lots of very good points...it’s kind of unfair what happened to GAL but you’re right to generalize what it is and what it won’t become. If GAL teams continue to lose to EDP teams 7-1 not a good look for the league. Thanks for sharing your insight though.
                Which EDP team beat a GA team 7-1? That’s in no way shape or form true.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Which EDP team beat a GA team 7-1? That’s in no way shape or form true.
                  Real NJ, which has one really good team capable of competing and beating many ecnl and ga teams. They are an outlier but it’s true that some of these edp teams are actually really, really good.

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                    #10
                    I'll set the record straight watching girls/womens soccer is painful to watch just not as painful as all of the postings about them

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                      #11
                      What people forget is MFA has operated out of the North and the Shore for a long time. They only did not do that for 3 years after they moved all the ECNL teams to the North. They have those muscles and my guess is the 2009 ECNL team will move around and be comprised of current Shore, North, and new players. RT may be the coach, but not sure he should want it, and probably unlikely that he is.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What people forget is MFA has operated out of the North and the Shore for a long time. They only did not do that for 3 years after they moved all the ECNL teams to the North. They have those muscles and my guess is the 2009 ECNL team will move around and be comprised of current Shore, North, and new players. RT may be the coach, but not sure he should want it, and probably unlikely that he is.
                        The shore? How? NJX?

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