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That's BS ..... D1 doesn't actually play a ton more than D3 on the field but do have more coach-based off season conditioning off of the field and far better tutoring for players. That said .... Any decent D3 programs have kids that work hard in groups, under the captains and on their own during the off-season. On average D1 are better athletes but far more than half of D1 are Gary great soccer programs or even fully funded.

Yes D3 programs still do a lot of work off season, it's just not "official." The lack of academic support can make it more of a challenge for D3 athletes also and is a big reason coaches want to know you can manage the work. They don't want players that are struggling

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Yes D3 programs still do a lot of work off season, it's just not "official." The lack of academic support can make it more of a challenge for D3 athletes also and is a big reason coaches want to know you can manage the work. They don't want players that are struggling

Sorry parents to burst your bubble but D3 players do not have the same amount of strength training and conditioning of D1 players. The amount of official workouts is not even close. D1 start training at least 4-6 weeks earlier than D3 who report in mid August. There is no Spring season in D3 either. During the season there are a set amount of time allotted to training including games per week. I have seen enough games and can say the speed of play is slower than top level D1. I am a big proponent of D3 but those are the facts. More time is spent academically in the classroom and Labs than on the field for a very good reason.

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Sorry parents to burst your bubble but D3 players do not have the same amount of strength training and conditioning of D1 players. The amount of official workouts is not even close. D1 start training at least 4-6 weeks earlier than D3 who report in mid August. There is no Spring season in D3 either. During the season there are a set amount of time allotted to training including games per week. I have seen enough games and can say the speed of play is slower than top level D1. I am a big proponent of D3 but those are the facts. More time is spent academically in the classroom and Labs than on the field for a very good reason.

Yep, no question that the training demands of D1 are generally higher than D3. This is the reason many highly-talented players choose D3; they don't want the full-time-athlete demands of D1 and would rather be a full-time-student.

But again, you mention "top level D1" while the comparison being made was Manhattan College (bottom-level D1). No one is disputing that UNC or Stanford or even Rutgers could crush Williams or Amherst. But we are talking about Manhattan College.

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Yep, no question that the training demands of D1 are generally higher than D3. This is the reason many highly-talented players choose D3; they don't want the full-time-athlete demands of D1 and would rather be a full-time-student.

But again, you mention "top level D1" while the comparison being made was Manhattan College (bottom-level D1). No one is disputing that UNC or Stanford or even Rutgers could crush Williams or Amherst. But we are talking about Manhattan College.

Heck if you mention Rutgers might as well throw in Central Connecticut State....cmon now.

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Heck if you mention Rutgers might as well throw in Central Connecticut State....cmon now.

Sure, CCSU would probably beat the top 20 D3 soccer programs. Any D1 program that qualifies for the NCAA tournament would be able to soundly defeat any of the top D3 programs. I would go as far as saying any of the D1 programs in the top 200 would win more games than they would lose against top 20 D3 programs. But again, we are talking about Manhattan College, currently ranked #308.

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First of all leave the young age group out as that’s irrelevant and a lot changes over time. So you really think flight 4 for the U16s is a “top” flight??? Bottom line if GA was an elite league each of of the older age groups should be Bracket 1 or at the very least 2.

Agreed, would have expected the club to be better placed but with that said it’s apparent that the 06 and 05 age groups have a lot of work to do....but they are probably in the same ballpark with other GA clubs like CSA Monmouth and STA. So even though not highly placed in Jeff cup still comparable to other local GA clubs at those specific age groups.

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Agreed, would have expected the club to be better placed but with that said it’s apparent that the 06 and 05 age groups have a lot of work to do....but they are probably in the same ballpark with other GA clubs like CSA Monmouth and STA. So even though not highly placed in Jeff cup still comparable to other local GA clubs at those specific age groups.

Have you seen Penn Fusion flights, same ol crap as GA teams are placed with ECRL teams, while freaking EDP teams are top flight along with ECNL teams. What is Penn Fusion thinking with these flights...

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Have you seen Penn Fusion flights, same ol crap as GA teams are placed with ECRL teams, while freaking EDP teams are top flight along with ECNL teams. What is Penn Fusion thinking with these flights...

I just looked. In NJ, Red is the top flight. All the PDA ECNL teams, MFA, Cedar Stars, STA, and at a few ages a PSA team. What GA team is in the 2nd flight? At the oldest ages, most of those teams are a mix of kids and not necessarily the teams that will play in leagues in the spring.

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I just looked. In NJ, Red is the top flight. All the PDA ECNL teams, MFA, Cedar Stars, STA, and at a few ages a PSA team. What GA team is in the 2nd flight? At the oldest ages, most of those teams are a mix of kids and not necessarily the teams that will play in leagues in the spring.

05 CSA GA team is in 2nd bracket playing ECRL teams like PDA Shore...did not expect that from a GA club. They are not a great team but common playing ECRL teams????

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CSA has their top team in the top flight. Which team is that (CSA Monmouth 2005)? But I can assure you they told the tourney that was their top team at that age. I assume your kid is on the Bergen Team? Just beat the teams on your schedule and complain to your club. 9

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CSA has their top team in the top flight. Which team is that (CSA Monmouth 2005)? But I can assure you they told the tourney that was their top team at that age. I assume your kid is on the Bergen Team? Just beat the teams on your schedule and complain to your club. 9

Still embarrassing to have these ECRL teams in a top level tourney...should be only GA and ECNL.

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05 CSA GA team is in 2nd bracket playing ECRL teams like PDA Shore...did not expect that from a GA club. They are not a great team but common playing ECRL teams????

Look on the bright side. At least you wont have to play the strikers.....there are a few teams that may be way out of their depth in that 05 top bracket

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Look on the bright side. At least you wont have to play the strikers.....there are a few teams that may be way out of their depth in that 05 top bracket

Lol that’s true they will beat CSA GA 6,7 nil easy if they are on their game.

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Still embarrassing to have these ECRL teams in a top level tourney...should be only GA and ECNL.

Jeff Cup hasn't been a "top level tourney" for a few years now. Many ECNL teams stopped going because the exposure and competition at ECNL events was better, then DA had its own events as well so even fewer GDA teams went. I bet more are going this year because Covid has so badly screwed up recruiting, not so much because it's a "top" event

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Jeff Cup hasn't been a "top level tourney" for a few years now. Many ECNL teams stopped going because the exposure and competition at ECNL events was better, then DA had its own events as well so even fewer GDA teams went. I bet more are going this year because Covid has so badly screwed up recruiting, not so much because it's a "top" event

In 2019 before the pandemic, the college coaches D had been in touch with all still mentioned Jeff Cup as one of the tournaments they recruit at. Others included ECNL events, Disney, CASL, DA events, Surf Cup.