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Who touted them as #1? Seems like CA and TX tend to have far better teams than the Northeast in general, so I'd be surprised if a NJ team was actually #1 beyond something dumb like GotSoccer points.

2 games is enough of a trend for you to label a whole club as teaching and implementing "Kick and Run" system?

Last year power rankings had Strikers as #1. GotSoccer points is a joke. Power rankings is more accurate.

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Yet upon his hiring yesterday Sam Allardyce publicly said that’s how West Brom will play now that he’s in charge. Very direct long balls all game long and clearing the ball out of danger at all costs instead of making mistakes playing out of the back. I guess all mighty PDA has better coaching than the Premier League! Amazing how many football illiterate parents are out there being hoodwinked every day. Perhaps big Sam should forget about West Brom and get a HS soccer gig here in the US of A.

First of all styles if you have one are taught at all levels win or lose. Barcelona for example teaches possession at all levels and gender. They aren’t worried about losing because they are already soccer royalty.
That being said kick and run here in the United States is played at the youth level because it’s the easiest ways to win early on. Parents in turn equate winning with being good. So in short no major soccer club in NJ does a good job of teaching actual soccer because as we know it’s a big business and they need wins to prove they are good.

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First of all styles if you have one are taught at all levels win or lose. Barcelona for example teaches possession at all levels and gender. They aren’t worried about losing because they are already soccer royalty.
That being said kick and run here in the United States is played at the youth level because it’s the easiest ways to win early on. Parents in turn equate winning with being good. So in short no major soccer club in NJ does a good job of teaching actual soccer because as we know it’s a big business and they need wins to prove they are good.

Couldn’t have said it better myself! More wins equals more money! Kids do not develop and wonder why international players are taking the spots on college rosters!

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YN94aS0q0To

Ok, I took the bait. Watched the first half so far. A couple of notes:

- PDA hardly had any possession before going down 2-0 in the first 8 minutes. And after that, still hardly any possession. Barca team clearly in control.
- According to the announcers, PDA was at the start of their season...not exactly mid-season form. Whereas Barcelona clearly a well-oiled machine in mid-season form.
- Announcers mentioned PDA was 32-0 in the previous season. Seriously doubt they could have done that with a "kick and run" system.
- First "kick to no one" at the 24 minute mark. Clearly PDA getting frustrated and impatient considering their lack of possession up to that point
- Finally PDA gets a clean possession and puts together a nice string of passes starting from the GK up the right side just before the 25m mark by PDA leading to a corner kick opportunity.

From that first half, have zero idea how you would call that "Kick and Run" soccer. Barca dominated, PDA hardly had the ball. Not going to watch the 2nd half unless you say it's completely different, and even then, going to the long ball when down 2-0 in a 25 minute half is a legit desperation move when you've been dominated for most of the game and need to get a score, so it's hardly PDA's regular "system".

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Who touted them as #1? Seems like CA and TX tend to have far better teams than the Northeast in general, so I'd be surprised if a NJ team was actually #1 beyond something dumb like GotSoccer points.

2 games is enough of a trend for you to label a whole club as teaching and implementing "Kick and Run" system?

Over the past 5-10 years, no club has more wins than PDA on the big stage. The best CA and TX teams are good, but not materially better than those from here. Of course the biggest states with huge player pools get some great clubs. Player for player, the soccer in NJ is as good as anywhere.

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Ok, I took the bait. Watched the first half so far. A couple of notes:

- PDA hardly had any possession before going down 2-0 in the first 8 minutes. And after that, still hardly any possession. Barca team clearly in control.
- According to the announcers, PDA was at the start of their season...not exactly mid-season form. Whereas Barcelona clearly a well-oiled machine in mid-season form.
- Announcers mentioned PDA was 32-0 in the previous season. Seriously doubt they could have done that with a "kick and run" system.
- First "kick to no one" at the 24 minute mark. Clearly PDA getting frustrated and impatient considering their lack of possession up to that point
- Finally PDA gets a clean possession and puts together a nice string of passes starting from the GK up the right side just before the 25m mark by PDA leading to a corner kick opportunity.

From that first half, have zero idea how you would call that "Kick and Run" soccer. Barca dominated, PDA hardly had the ball. Not going to watch the 2nd half unless you say it's completely different, and even then, going to the long ball when down 2-0 in a 25 minute half is a legit desperation move when you've been dominated for most of the game and need to get a score, so it's hardly PDA's regular "system".

Not a glowing endorsement of USA youth soccer “royalty”. PDA

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Not a glowing endorsement of USA youth soccer “royalty”. PDA

Yep, PDA got their butts kicked in this game. Probably more a function of their just coming off HS soccer season than it is an indication of the quality of their team, tho.

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Yep, PDA got their butts kicked in this game. Probably more a function of their just coming off HS soccer season than it is an indication of the quality of their team, tho.

I heard it was the humidity and the long flight from NJ.

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I heard it was the humidity and the long flight from NJ.

Where did you hear that?

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Ok, I took the bait. Watched the first half so far. A couple of notes:

- PDA hardly had any possession before going down 2-0 in the first 8 minutes. And after that, still hardly any possession. Barca team clearly in control.
- According to the announcers, PDA was at the start of their season...not exactly mid-season form. Whereas Barcelona clearly a well-oiled machine in mid-season form.
- Announcers mentioned PDA was 32-0 in the previous season. Seriously doubt they could have done that with a "kick and run" system.
- First "kick to no one" at the 24 minute mark. Clearly PDA getting frustrated and impatient considering their lack of possession up to that point
- Finally PDA gets a clean possession and puts together a nice string of passes starting from the GK up the right side just before the 25m mark by PDA leading to a corner kick opportunity.

From that first half, have zero idea how you would call that "Kick and Run" soccer. Barca dominated, PDA hardly had the ball. Not going to watch the 2nd half unless you say it's completely different, and even then, going to the long ball when down 2-0 in a 25 minute half is a legit desperation move when you've been dominated for most of the game and need to get a score, so it's hardly PDA's regular "system".

Pda played better in the 2nd half. Nobody said this team specifically was kick and run rather at the younger ages NOBODY in NJ does what they do abroad because it’s big money. Pda girls could play like those are Lo a girls if developed correctly. They aren’t and the fact they do well nationally speaks to soccer in this country. Everyone is catching up and rather quickly. Check out Spain vs USA last World Cup. A Spanish team that had zero history in the sport nearly won. Spanish women have a history of making paella.

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Pda played better in the 2nd half. Nobody said this team specifically was kick and run rather at the younger ages NOBODY in NJ does what they do abroad because it’s big money. Pda girls could play like those are Lo a girls if developed correctly. They aren’t and the fact they do well nationally speaks to soccer in this country. Everyone is catching up and rather quickly. Check out Spain vs USA last World Cup. A Spanish team that had zero history in the sport nearly won. Spanish women have a history of making paella.

Someone cited this game as an example of how PDA is all kick-and-run. It's the only reason why I watched it, to see what they were talking about.

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in the US players are selected from a largely middle to upper middle class pool because they can pay. In Spain, they are selected because they can play. The models are totally different.

Explains why the USA are not dominant at youth levels, but over time they outlast most nations in terms of kids playing beyond HS.

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Do you honestly believe that coaches from these clubs like PDA are actually teaching kids to just kick and run? I mean really? Coaches who have played and coached the game at various levels including college and even professionally are really going to teach youth players to randomly kick the ball forward?

Probably the most common phrases I've heard among youth soccer coaches (even parent coaches) is "who was that to?", telling the player not to just randomly kick the ball forward, but that they should kick the ball to someone. This idea that coaches at a high level club (or even a low-level club) would "teach and implement" a system based on kick and run is possibly the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

Kick and run isn't blind kicking, you can still have a great and accurate kick and run team. Kick and run is basically kicking the ball long distance either from defensive 3rd or mid field and have speedy fwds just run as fast as they can to catch the defense off guard most from the middle of the field.

And yes, many clubs and colleges use this as they just want the win. Athletic and speedy players work best for this hence why all the clubs love them.

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Yet upon his hiring yesterday Sam Allardyce publicly said that’s how West Brom will play now that he’s in charge. Very direct long balls all game long and clearing the ball out of danger at all costs instead of making mistakes playing out of the back. I guess all mighty PDA has better coaching than the Premier League! Amazing how many football illiterate parents are out there being hoodwinked every day. Perhaps big Sam should forget about West Brom and get a HS soccer gig here in the US of A.

You mean that team currently in 19th with it's only win a 1-0 win over the 20th place team? The one who HAS to win at all costs in order to NOT be relegated which costs clubs millions?

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Ok, I took the bait. Watched the first half so far. A couple of notes:

- PDA hardly had any possession before going down 2-0 in the first 8 minutes. And after that, still hardly any possession. Barca team clearly in control.
- According to the announcers, PDA was at the start of their season...not exactly mid-season form. Whereas Barcelona clearly a well-oiled machine in mid-season form.
- Announcers mentioned PDA was 32-0 in the previous season. Seriously doubt they could have done that with a "kick and run" system.
- First "kick to no one" at the 24 minute mark. Clearly PDA getting frustrated and impatient considering their lack of possession up to that point
- Finally PDA gets a clean possession and puts together a nice string of passes starting from the GK up the right side just before the 25m mark by PDA leading to a corner kick opportunity.

From that first half, have zero idea how you would call that "Kick and Run" soccer. Barca dominated, PDA hardly had the ball. Not going to watch the 2nd half unless you say it's completely different, and even then, going to the long ball when down 2-0 in a 25 minute half is a legit desperation move when you've been dominated for most of the game and need to get a score, so it's hardly PDA's regular "system".

2nd half....watch as the left winger is open not once but twice with no one within a mile as the striker has blinders on and kicks from distance. PDA gets a lot more aggressive in the 2nd while Barca plays more relaxed. Barca looks like they don't mind if they lose just as long as they play their game and grow. PDA looks like it is the end of the world if they lose.