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Hold on, Pro teams slide tackle from
the back? (Red card) pro teams throw elbows in the face (red card) get out of here. Big difference between being aggressive and playing dirty to hurt or to stop a dangerous play. Now since it’s youth no red cards yet.

yep agree.. unfortunately most of the time there is only one referee during games.. clearly referees miss most of these fouls and if they notice they go easy by not ejecting the kids ...

my take on this red cards is.. the youth soccer is no different than any activity that kids do.. ask yourself would anyone let a kid go if they break rules multiple times, as a parent wouldn't you ground them if they break rules? As long as the coaches and referees let this happen the kids will resort to dirty play instead of doing better with the ball and working on sharpening their technical/tactical skills

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yep agree.. unfortunately most of the time there is only one referee during games.. clearly referees miss most of these fouls and if they notice they go easy by not ejecting the kids ...

my take on this red cards is.. the youth soccer is no different than any activity that kids do.. ask yourself would anyone let a kid go if they break rules multiple times, as a parent wouldn't you ground them if they break rules? As long as the coaches and referees let this happen the kids will resort to dirty play instead of doing better with the ball and working on sharpening their technical/tactical skills

Couldn’t agree anymore

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All the dads crying about the RB boys playing to win need to relax. Sorry your kid didn't make it, I will be the first to admit my son isn't ready for that level of competitiveness hopefully one day. But they play to win, watch any pro team play and that's exactly the intensity they use. If you don't like aggression then stick to EDP in the future or travel soccer but please don't make excuses about why your team can't keep up.

Liverpool had no problem “keeping up” RB’s today, in fact they had more clear chances at the end of the game to score the go ahead goal. And all that without resorting to dirty play. There is a difference between aggressive play and what these Red Bull teams do. Especially when it comes to slide tackling kids from behind, holding, and playing high elbows to the face. I’m sorry your kid didn’t make it either but perhaps you should stop riding Red Bull’s jock and be honest about what goes on. Not to mention what they do shuttling their players from team to team. Liverpool could have very well beaten RBNY today but we’ll never know because they didn’t play them, they played a hybrid team. As will everyone else if this not addressed.

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Liverpool had no problem “keeping up” RB’s today, in fact they had more clear chances at the end of the game to score the go ahead goal. And all that without resorting to dirty play. There is a difference between aggressive play and what these Red Bull teams do. Especially when it comes to slide tackling kids from behind, holding, and playing high elbows to the face. I’m sorry your kid didn’t make it either but perhaps you should stop riding Red Bull’s jock and be honest about what goes on. Not to mention what they do shuttling their players from team to team. Liverpool could have very well beaten RBNY today but we’ll never know because they didn’t play them, they played a hybrid team. As will everyone else if this not addressed.

I believe you will have a different experience against their south team. I watched a couple of their games at the turf cup and they are fast, aggressive, (a little dirty) and are not selfish with the ball. At least not that weekend

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They are coming in the NJ league with a different mentality. Probably getting hyped up by the parents. They know this is the top division and they want to send a message. Clearly the message was sent but not the one you were hoping for. Boys are very skilled. But perception is very important. Most importantly having a good sportsmanship.

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Red bulls just takes kids from all 3 teams and plays them were ever they want for ever game. For example yesterday red bull south had at least one kid if not more from the NY team when they played Union. Today the NY team had 3 kids from the south team against Liverpool. Yes I understand its all the same club but with the South and NY team in the same flight this season how is that allowed? The South and NY should only be allowed to use kids from the North team because they are in a different flight this season that's fine then. So people that are saying CSA Bergen will beat the South team what stops the south team from bring a all star team from all 3 teams? Maybe 12 kids the have already signed to there academy! Yes I understand club player pass and stuff like that it's all the same club. My issue is with South and NY being in the same flight. If this is what they are going to so have all 3 teams in different flights then no one can say anything. Today both defenders from NY were south players so in a few Liverpool has to go against those same boys again! So when teams play red bulls you are playing there whole program not just one team!!!

Responding to a few different posts:

The NYRB south team have 10 players on their roster and will sometimes bring 1 additional player from another 2011 or 2012 team. The NYRB NY team only has 7 or 8 players and I believe 2 of them or 2012’s. They will always bring additional players just to fill their roster. IMO the players should probably come from the North team, but I believe it depends on availability or conflicts with their main team they are rostered on.

As far as them putting together an “All-Star” team, this simply has never happened. Unless you are playing the NY team you are playing 95-100% of the main roster for that particular team unless it’s a tournament . So far they have only entered 2 teams in each tournament that we have played and they simply split the NY team between the North and South teams. So you are not playing a team with kids that have been invited to the academy team. With that said, it’s my understanding they have invited 6 or 7 kids from the current teams to their academy team. With all but 1 or 2 coming from the south team so far. Additional invites will be announced over the next few weeks. My guess it the majority of the invites will go to kids from the North and NY teams. I would find it hard to imagine more that 5 or 6 kids from the south team get an invite. Keep in mind that more could have been invited, but it’s all very secretive. No idea how many outside players have received an invite.

I don’t believe the kids are being taught to be dirty by the Red Bulls, but it doesn’t seemed to be frowned upon either. I see some thing’s by the red Bull’s as well as other teams that I don’t like and I would like to see it toned down a bit. It’s just not worth an injury especially at this age.

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They are coming in the NJ league with a different mentality. Probably getting hyped up by the parents. They know this is the top division and they want to send a message. Clearly the message was sent but not the one you were hoping for. Boys are very skilled. But perception is very important. Most importantly having a good sportsmanship.

And they are going through academy selection process, the players have to show their best.... as someone mentioned earlier coach don't correct their wrong doing hence they will continue to do it..

on a side note I still don't understand why RedBulls is still evaluating their current players for the academy team, the players were with pre-academy teams for more than 3 months, that is more than enough time to judge the players skills, attitude, handling pressure etc..., not sure why stress out the players (and parents).. I understand if the player is from other club then it would take time to evaluate....

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Saturday, March 26th

3 - PASCO Atletico vs NJ Stallions - 2
1 - CSA Monmouth White vs Passaic - 7
3 - Ironbound Force vs Vistula - 1
1 - Union Selecao Blue vs Red Bull South - 7
2 - Liverpool vs Football Academy Black - 0
2 - Hoboken City vs PDA Guardiola - 2

Sunday, March 27th

1 - CSA SI White vs South Hackensack - 4
2 - CSA Monmouth Green - Ocean - 2
2 - Liverpool vs Red Bull NY - 2
5 - CSA Hudson Valley v Summit - 3
2 - Foundation SA vs Kearny Thistle - 2
5 - Football Acad 2012 v Hoboken City - 0
3 - CSA SI Green vs 2012 Ironbound - 2
2 - Monmouth Coast vs Berkeley Heights - 1
? - AS Junior Bergen vs Parsippany Blue - ?
3 - Torpedos vs PSA Princeton Black - 2
1 - Elite Plainfield vs Football Acad Silver- 3
? - Future SA White vs Rahway Xavi - ?
9 - Match Fit Pre-ECNL Blue vs AS Junior - 3

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Saturday, March 26th

3 - PASCO Atletico vs NJ Stallions - 2
1 - CSA Monmouth White vs Passaic - 7
3 - Ironbound Force vs Vistula - 1
1 - Union Selecao Blue vs Red Bull South - 7
2 - Liverpool vs Football Academy Black - 0
2 - Hoboken City vs PDA Guardiola - 2

Sunday, March 27th

1 - CSA SI White vs South Hackensack - 4
2 - CSA Monmouth Green - Ocean - 2
2 - Liverpool vs Red Bull NY - 2
5 - CSA Hudson Valley v Summit - 3
2 - Foundation SA vs Kearny Thistle - 2
5 - Football Acad 2012 v Hoboken City - 0
3 - CSA SI Green vs 2012 Ironbound - 2
2 - Monmouth Coast vs Berkeley Heights - 1
? - AS Junior Bergen vs Parsippany Blue - ?
3 - Torpedos vs PSA Princeton Black - 2
1 - Elite Plainfield vs Football Acad Silver- 3
? - Future SA White vs Rahway Xavi - ?
9 - Match Fit Pre-ECNL Blue vs AS Junior - 3

Matchfit beat AS Junior 9:3. Really?

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Matchfit beat AS Junior 9:3. Really?

It's OK if AS Junior did loss 9-3 because "They play the right way" it's not about winning and losing its again about playing the right way. How about someone go and ask those parents and players how it feels to keep losing. See if they say it's ok because we play the right way. Will it ever pay off for them to keep playing the right way. Just going to say it again there is no right and wrong way to play ever coach ever team hell ever game has different strategy and styles to play soccer there is not a right way to play!!

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Matchfit beat AS Junior 9:3. Really?

You would expect a different result? Match Fit was a State Cup semi Finalist and had 4 wins, 3 losses and a draw in the same flight during the fall. Losses to only FA (NJ #5) 0-3, Red Bull South (NJ#1) 1-2 and SJEB 1-2. On the other hand AS Junior last fall gave up 44 goals in 7 games and only scored 8 while losing them all. Very good chance that you see AS Junior go 0-8 in this flight. The are clearly mis-flighted as usual.

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This is non sense, there is nothing wrong with adjusting your playing style for a game. But consistency with kick and run or defending with 8 players hoping for a good counter attack. leading with these playing styles never teaches youth anything. What happens if your player joins a new team a year from now and they play possession game (your kid will struggle) so teaching the boys how to play and switch up with different styles based on your opponent is important. They have to learn what works and what doesn’t. If you are just chasing in the moment win, then I get it. By all means keep kicking hard to see how far you can reach.

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This is non sense, there is nothing wrong with adjusting your playing style for a game. But consistency with kick and run or defending with 8 players hoping for a good counter attack. leading with these playing styles never teaches youth anything. What happens if your player joins a new team a year from now and they play possession game (your kid will struggle) so teaching the boys how to play and switch up with different styles based on your opponent is important. They have to learn what works and what doesn’t. If you are just chasing in the moment win, then I get it. By all means keep kicking hard to see how far you can reach.

My only question is how do you exactly teach a passing game and possession in game situations, if in a game your team never actually posses the ball or completes its passes? anyone can pass and move vs cones, you have to be able to do it against competition.

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This is non sense, there is nothing wrong with adjusting your playing style for a game. But consistency with kick and run or defending with 8 players hoping for a good counter attack. leading with these playing styles never teaches youth anything. What happens if your player joins a new team a year from now and they play possession game (your kid will struggle) so teaching the boys how to play and switch up with different styles based on your opponent is important. They have to learn what works and what doesn’t. If you are just chasing in the moment win, then I get it. By all means keep kicking hard to see how far you can reach.

This is why your a parent versus being a professional soccer coach/trainer. You live in the moment and just care about wins or goals. At this age it’s about development and teaching the boys the right way to play. In the end the ones that make it the furthest are the kids with the highest soccer IQs and team play.
Scores are only important to the insecure fathers with the small 8=====D that gets more enjoyment off their sons goals than bedtime with the wife.
Any soccer educated person will look at the performance over the results. Is it not possible to be the better team or play better and still lose? A scout for Redbulls or NYC looks for playing the way AS Junior plays versus the kick and run you so much suggest to switch to.
In education it’s about reinforcing good habits to teach consistency to achieve the right results. You ask what the right results are??? At U11 it’s about development to prepare for the Academy level not getting wins at the pre academy age group. Look at your clubs previous age groups, roster size, and please share your alumni’s % of kids that have moved on to the Academy level for Redbulls and or NYCFC!
Those are the results that ultimately matter.

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My only question is how do you exactly teach a passing game and possession in game situations, if in a game your team never actually posses the ball or completes its passes? anyone can pass and move vs cones, you have to be able to do it against competition.

simple correction like stopping the players from attempting to make goals from kick off , or passing long balls with no purpose.. you think that is hard for a coach to correct?