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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Your giving this information as if this is an absolute fact. Can you direct us to where you read that ECNL will be taking action against under performing clubs as well as where they specifically state STA is the front runner. I absolutely agree they need to either demote or show the exit to under performing clubs that do nothing to improve. When you have 3 ECNL clubs already in NJ with 4 teams per age group do you really think they will add a 5th team per age? There is already a lack of depth of talent and you want to add more? It seems those parents whose players cannot earn a spot on an existing ECNL team think if they keep adding clubs there kid can finally play ECNL. Let us know where you read that information.
    I believe what the poster is saying in order to add another team in NJ, they would need to remove a team. PDA South just got in, so they aren't going anywhere, and besides, PDA sits on the board. You need to ask yourself, which club has had more success with it's teams. If you put one against the other, STA stands out as the better performing club. It's just the way it is. MF has had alot of issues and adding one new coach with one decent team will not change the dynamic of the entire club.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I believe what the poster is saying in order to add another team in NJ, they would need to remove a team. PDA South just got in, so they aren't going anywhere, and besides, PDA sits on the board. You need to ask yourself, which club has had more success with it's teams. If you put one against the other, STA stands out as the better performing club. It's just the way it is. MF has had alot of issues and adding one new coach with one decent team will not change the dynamic of the entire club.
      ECNL is not like Dunkin Donuts they would only add a franchise if the market was there. NJ is saturated with ECNL teams at every age group and there is no further need even if they demoted/expelled a club. The State lacks the depth of talent to add on players not good enough to make existing ECNL teams. There are 4 teams now per age group if the player is not good enough to join then adding a 5th team goes against the business plan of ECNL. “Less is better than more”. NJ is not a place that has that kind of talent.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        ECNL is not like Dunkin Donuts they would only add a franchise if the market was there. NJ is saturated with ECNL teams at every age group and there is no further need even if they demoted/expelled a club. The State lacks the depth of talent to add on players not good enough to make existing ECNL teams. There are 4 teams now per age group if the player is not good enough to join then adding a 5th team goes against the business plan of ECNL. “Less is better than more”. NJ is not a place that has that kind of talent.
        Not sure why you keep saying "adding a 5th team". No one has said to add a 5th team. The bottom line is that with the fall of the DA, alot of talented DA clubs were looking to get into the ECNL with their teams. NJ has three currently in the ENCL. PDA North, PDA South and MF. STA and CSA were DA clubs. CSA is a mess right now, and even if they weren't they are to close to PDA North and South to get in. STA has had some very good teams and applied tonget into the ECNL. Because MF and STA are relatively close to eash other it didn't make sense to add them. If you want to keep the ECNL a top flight type of program, you would want every club involved to be some of the best talent. There is absolutely no way on earth you can say MF is a better run program that STA. And because of the DA, MF never had any competition for the ECNL position. Now all bets are off. We can debate this as much as you want, and this is youth soccer where anything can happen. Only time will tell what the outcome would be. If your a parent looking to get into.a ECNL program, my suggestion would be to hop on the STA bandwagon now and get your kid in before it's to late. If not, keep believing what your being told by your coach. Maybe hes 100% correct. Maybe all this is just a fantasy.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Not sure why you keep saying "adding a 5th team". No one has said to add a 5th team. The bottom line is that with the fall of the DA, alot of talented DA clubs were looking to get into the ECNL with their teams. NJ has three currently in the ENCL. PDA North, PDA South and MF. STA and CSA were DA clubs. CSA is a mess right now, and even if they weren't they are to close to PDA North and South to get in. STA has had some very good teams and applied tonget into the ECNL. Because MF and STA are relatively close to eash other it didn't make sense to add them. If you want to keep the ECNL a top flight type of program, you would want every club involved to be some of the best talent. There is absolutely no way on earth you can say MF is a better run program that STA. And because of the DA, MF never had any competition for the ECNL position. Now all bets are off. We can debate this as much as you want, and this is youth soccer where anything can happen. Only time will tell what the outcome would be. If your a parent looking to get into.a ECNL program, my suggestion would be to hop on the STA bandwagon now and get your kid in before it's to late. If not, keep believing what your being told by your coach. Maybe hes 100% correct. Maybe all this is just a fantasy.
          CSA is also applying or applied they know GAL is a tough sell but may be stuck in it until it slowly dissolves and prob merged into USYS. Only time will tell but it seems ECNL is not an option.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            ECNL is not like Dunkin Donuts they would only add a franchise if the market was there. NJ is saturated with ECNL teams at every age group and there is no further need even if they demoted/expelled a club. The State lacks the depth of talent to add on players not good enough to make existing ECNL teams. There are 4 teams now per age group if the player is not good enough to join then adding a 5th team goes against the business plan of ECNL. “Less is better than more”. NJ is not a place that has that kind of talent.
            ECNL is just like DD! They have already oversaturated every market and divided the talent. Have fun in your 6-1 wins or losses next season. GDA II.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              First off, get your information correct. PDA Shore IS NOT IN THE ECNL. PDA South is. As for MF Shore, based on what the ECNL is saying, under performing clubs will not be around for the 21/22 season, with STA being the front runner to replace them. Believe what your beloved coach is telling you. It's his job to keep you all happy. Only time will tell what the future holds for MF...
              I do ha e my facts straight and yes I said PdA Shore! As I spoke to a parent of a PDA shore team who stated that they use Zarephath as their home fields and in fact play ECNL!

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I do ha e my facts straight and yes I said PdA Shore! As I spoke to a parent of a PDA shore team who stated that they use Zarephath as their home fields and in fact play ECNL!
                What age group? My kid plays at PDA North. Tell me the age group and I'll tell you if it's true.....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  What age group? My kid plays at PDA North. Tell me the age group and I'll tell you if it's true.....
                  05 only matter of time before they become ECNL as that team too good for ECRL.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    05 only matter of time before they become ECNL as that team too good for ECRL.
                    You aren't making sense. First, you said they are a PDA Shore team that plays ENCL, but practice out of PDA North? Now you're saying that they are too good for ECRL and should be in ECNL. Which is it?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Not sure why you keep saying "adding a 5th team". No one has said to add a 5th team. The bottom line is that with the fall of the DA, alot of talented DA clubs were looking to get into the ECNL with their teams. NJ has three currently in the ENCL. PDA North, PDA South and MF. STA and CSA were DA clubs. CSA is a mess right now, and even if they weren't they are to close to PDA North and South to get in. STA has had some very good teams and applied tonget into the ECNL. Because MF and STA are relatively close to eash other it didn't make sense to add them. If you want to keep the ECNL a top flight type of program, you would want every club involved to be some of the best talent. There is absolutely no way on earth you can say MF is a better run program that STA. And because of the DA, MF never had any competition for the ECNL position. Now all bets are off. We can debate this as much as you want, and this is youth soccer where anything can happen. Only time will tell what the outcome would be. If your a parent looking to get into.a ECNL program, my suggestion would be to hop on the STA bandwagon now and get your kid in before it's to late. If not, keep believing what your being told by your coach. Maybe hes 100% correct. Maybe all this is just a fantasy.
                      I understand you want STA to be ECNL but the way the league is positioned is they want to accumulate the best/top players to a given ECNL club in the area to ensure that training is competitive and the team is competitive as a group. Now that there is no longer STA DA logic says the top players from STA would now move over to MF to make up for there lessor players who are not competitive or move over to PDA to make the White team better. Adding another club makes no sense. You want to strengthen those other ECNL teams. “Less teams are better”.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I understand you want STA to be ECNL but the way the league is positioned is they want to accumulate the best/top players to a given ECNL club in the area to ensure that training is competitive and the team is competitive as a group. Now that there is no longer STA DA logic says the top players from STA would now move over to MF to make up for there lessor players who are not competitive or move over to PDA to make the White team better. Adding another club makes no sense. You want to strengthen those other ECNL teams. “Less teams are better”.
                        If ECNL is saying no to Tophat, FC Virginia & NEFC all proven solid clubs with Tophat being ranked #1 in the country as. Club you really think they have there eyes on further expansion with clubs like STA. Seriously? Instead of thinking positive about that have your daughter earn her way onto an existing ECNL team then you can control the process rather than hoping.

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                          #72
                          It's going to be interesting next fall when all the MF parents are bitching that they were moved from the ECNL. It's happened before to other clubs across the country, so it's not unheard off. I understand your probably a MF parent and want to believe you guys don't have anything to worry about. I'm sure if you ask your coach, or DB for that matter, they will tell you it's not true and will never happen. It's a business and they need to generate income, so telling anyone that there is a possibility that this could happen wouldn't make any sense. Only time will tell. I hope whatever the outcome is, you will do what's best for your child

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If ECNL is saying no to Tophat, FC Virginia & NEFC all proven solid clubs with Tophat being ranked #1 in the country as. Club you really think they have there eyes on further expansion with clubs like STA. Seriously? Instead of thinking positive about that have your daughter earn her way onto an existing ECNL team then you can control the process rather than hoping.
                            Not every team that wants in will get it. Geographically it doesn't make sense in some areas. That's why the 21/22 season will see some changes. You can choose to believe it or not. But thinking that there is no way this could happen is pretty narrow minded of you.

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                              #74
                              [QUOTE=Unregistered;2763560]If ECNL is saying no to Tophat, FC Virginia & NEFC all proven solid clubs with Tophat being ranked #1 in the country as. Club you really think they have there eyes on further expansion with clubs like STA. Seriously? Instead of thinking positive about that have your daughter earn her way onto an existing ECNL team then you can control the process rather

                              Maybe put down the ice cream cone and do some research on a club before you post. Tophat was in the ECNL. In fact, they were pretty successful in it. They switched over to the DA program, whichbis probably why they can't get back in....
                              NTH Tophat Accomplishments
                              •** Named #3 ECNL club in the country for 2016-2017 season
                              •** Named 2017 Top Drawer Soccer Best Girls Club in the Country
                              •** 16 players named to various US Youth National Teams
                              •** 6 ECNL Southeast Conference Titles
                              •** Qualified*8 ECNL teams to the National Playoff in the past 2 years
                              •** 2 ECNL National Semifinalists in 2018 ( NTH Tophat 98/99 ECNL and NTH Tophat 01 ECNL)
                              •** 2 ECNL National Quarterfinalists in 2018 (NTH Tophat 00 ECNL and NTH Tophat 02 ECNL)
                              •** 1 USYS Regional Finalist in 2018 (NTH Tophat 98/99 Gold)

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Not every team that wants in will get it. Geographically it doesn't make sense in some areas. That's why the 21/22 season will see some changes. You can choose to believe it or not. But thinking that there is no way this could happen is pretty narrow minded of you.
                                I do not understand your post. “Not every team that wants in will get it” That is precisely why no other NJ Clubs will get in. Geographically it makes more sense for NJ is subtract a club than add a lessor club that does not meet the criteria and standards as set forth by ECNL. You could choose to believe whatever you want but at some point you have to be realistic. There are 4 teams per age group which means approx 80 players per age playing ECNL. This Geographic area lacks the depth to add more. Why do you think that NJ has more clubs that are thought of as highly by ECNL? 3 clubs Tophat, FC Virginia & NEFC are all superior than CS Monmouth, SJEB & STA and they can’t get in. I am not narrow minded but realistic. Maybe you should consider that as well. If my daughter is good enough for ECNL then you have plenty of options to try out. Don’t wait around and hope.

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