CSA, SJEB, STA flocking to ECNL in full Flight

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I think he was trying to reinforce the point that people sometimes use soccer as an advantage for admissions, just using the expense of ECNL (presumably the most expensive league to play in) as a comparison of how much some families are willing to spend to gain an advantage. So not really about ECNL at all.

Yea! Thanks for explaining my idea..

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Well..

My daughter is going from an old DA club to Penn Fusion...been promised a starting spot already. You've got to learn how to make deals with these guys.

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My daughter is going from an old DA club to Penn Fusion...been promised a starting spot already. You've got to learn how to make deals with these guys.

What age group? I imagine you are either coming from PA Classics or SJEB.

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No kidding. If you’re going to bribe your way into a school, have to shoot higher than USC (sorry USC grads). Lol.

Pouring money on soccer or any youth sports is the same as bribing ways to a few selective colleges anyway. You have to be able to afford certain lifestyle. Just a scam to widen the gap between social classes.

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2006 ... it is probably a step down going to a weaker team, but should be better for college.

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Cedar Stars (Monmouth) 2010 Girls Team is looking for a Goalie. Ours, unfortunately, moved away. This one of the top teams in the region for this age group and looking for a New Teammate to make the team complete. Looking to start training for Spring/Summer season ASAP (as lock down starts to ease up). Once things get back to normal will be most likely having 2 to 3 training sessions per week (including Goalie Training). Training is in Tinton Falls, NJ at the Beautiful CSA Facilities at Wayside Road.

If you are interested, please come to a training session and work out with us.

Please Contact Cedar Stars

or Coach Tom Napoli @
tom.napoli@cedarstars.com

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Cedar Stars (Monmouth) 2010 Girls Team is looking for a Goalie. Ours, unfortunately, moved away. This one of the top teams in the region for this age group and looking for a New Teammate to make the team complete. Looking to start training for Spring/Summer season ASAP (as lock down starts to ease up). Once things get back to normal will be most likely having 2 to 3 training sessions per week (including Goalie Training). Training is in Tinton Falls, NJ at the Beautiful CSA Facilities at Wayside Road.

If you are interested, please come to a training session and work out with us.

Please Contact Cedar Stars

or Coach Tom Napoli @
tom.napoli@cedarstars.com

Why is this information posted on every single thread???

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Why is this information posted on every single thread???

Instead of developing a goalkeeper, they thought it would be easier to recruit

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Why is this information posted on every single thread???

Probably bc some troll copies and pastes it so everyone can say how annoying he is.

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Seriously, trying to recruit a 10yr old goalie. Daughter’s team doesn’t even have an actual goalie, only a handful of girls who rotate and they play D1 USYS.

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So what are GA families being told about HS soccer?

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So what are GA families being told about HS soccer?

That is great and that everyone should play it! Totally the opposite of the message given in the DA days....typically hypocritical.

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Seriously, trying to recruit a 10yr old goalie. Daughter’s team doesn’t even have an actual goalie, only a handful of girls who rotate and they play D1 USYS.

1. Most parents and players think field players are cooler. They want someone else's kid to be the keeper so their sons and daughters can play on the field. This happens a lot. For teams rotate keepers, some parents would tell their players to do a really terrible job so the coach wants to avoid having them at the goal later on.

2. Most coaches and teams just use goalies like toilet paper. They don't train them. Most of the clubs don't have specific programs for keepers. You have to find something and pay extra for that.

3. I have seen many good keepers leaving because it becomes a thankless job: they get blamed when the team loses and they get ignored when the team wins.

3. In some teams, the keeper position is reserved for keeps who aren't fit enough to run o the field, who are simply bigger, or those who have poor techniques.

4. Unless the keeper is consciously aware they don't train their footwork much and they usually have significant disadvantages at the typical tryout settings. Many coaches don't even know how to do a proper keeper tryout.


Teams with good keepers are usually provided with specific programs and keepers are trained on the field just like any field players. However, that's very rare. I've only seen top teams doing that (that's why they're top teams).

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1. Most parents and players think field players are cooler. They want someone else's kid to be the keeper so their sons and daughters can play on the field. This happens a lot. For teams rotate keepers, some parents would tell their players to do a really terrible job so the coach wants to avoid having them at the goal later on.

2. Most coaches and teams just use goalies like toilet paper. They don't train them. Most of the clubs don't have specific programs for keepers. You have to find something and pay extra for that.

3. I have seen many good keepers leaving because it becomes a thankless job: they get blamed when the team loses and they get ignored when the team wins.

3. In some teams, the keeper position is reserved for keeps who aren't fit enough to run o the field, who are simply bigger, or those who have poor techniques.

4. Unless the keeper is consciously aware they don't train their footwork much and they usually have significant disadvantages at the typical tryout settings. Many coaches don't even know how to do a proper keeper tryout.


Teams with good keepers are usually provided with specific programs and keepers are trained on the field just like any field players. However, that's very rare. I've only seen top teams doing that (that's why they're top teams).

This is all true. I'd add to point 4 that the coaches trying to evaluate been your kid and whomever they have already on the team when you go in for a workout is laughable. You look and their keeper can't scoop the ball, has terrible positioning, etc, but the coach is looking at stuff like punt distance (not accuracy) and an inch difference in physical height.

It took a long time for my kid to realistically evaluate herself in game performance. Being able to tell the difference between a bad game with 1 or 2 goals against and a good game with 6 against was a challenge, but when you start to read the game from a 10,000 ft. perspective instead of just goals and saves things change. She began to see all of the things that led to goals, what really mattered in game, and what she needed to work on for the next time. It's a mentally challenging and thankless position.

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Sorry but every goalie I have seen started off as something else and was pushed into being the goalie. Some parents would rather nudge their way onto a top squad as keeper then allow the kids to enjoy the game and develop on the field. Also seen kids leave because they were being used to much as a goalie because other parents would complain when their kid had to play in net. Learning how to play and having the exp in net at a young age helps them to develop an understanding of the position. Having kids at the younger ages play multiple positions is the way to teach the game. Some might find they like a certain position more or that they are even better at one they were never put in. So for a team to be trying to recruit a player at the u11 leave is just dumb.

A for future reference, the best goalies come from the worst teams. Anyone can look good if the def only allows 2-3 shots and the goalie might let in 1. That goalie on the garbage team getting nailed 20x a game and letting in 3 is advancing faster and is most likely better.