Girls Soccer

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its the same at the so called top Clubs as well. Getting in to say Penn is great, but is not necessarily a great reflection on a kids soccer ability. As I said above, Clubs take overall credit for the brand name a kid commits to even if that brand has very little soccer value. We need top evaluate Clubs on how well they actually do soccer.

no one should give a rat's ass about how the choice that works for their player "reflects" on anything be it soccer ability or academic ability. All these players have different combinations of both in addition to desiring an urban locale, or a rural locale, or a certain religious affiliation, or a stem focus, or north or south, or east , or west, etc. etc. et.

Judging a players commitment is a complete waste of time unless you know the individual and what they are looking for.

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I agree with that, but its not really my point. All im saying is using D1 as some sort of indicator of standard is crazy. there are D1 games that are as uncompetitive as the worst ECNL/GDA mismatches.

agree and so what? mostly all of it soccer-wise, at all levels, is nothing special with very very few exceptions.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t most parents who have their kid play in ECNL /DA expecting to have their kid play D1? Or are parents/kids playing ECNL with the idea their Suzies will play D2,D3 soccer? Maybe my kids team is the exception but I would say almost all of the parents have their kid playing ECNL because they think it will lead to a D1 college soccer program. Am I missing something? Hard to believe D2, D3 soccer is the desired outcome with all the time, money and travel ECNL/DA requires. And to me the bottom line is you don’t need ECNL to play at the D2, D3 college soccer level. So if ECNL continues to get watered down and is not giving the D1 return people want they will go back to EDP. Water cooler bragging rights can only take you so far.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t most parents who have their kid play in ECNL /DA expecting to have their kid play D1? Or are parents/kids playing ECNL with the idea their Suzies will play D2,D3 soccer? Maybe my kids team is the exception but I would say almost all of the parents have their kid playing ECNL because they think it will lead to a D1 college soccer program. Am I missing something? Hard to believe D2, D3 soccer is the desired outcome with all the time, money and travel ECNL/DA requires. And to me the bottom line is you don’t need ECNL to play at the D2, D3 college soccer level. So if ECNL continues to get watered down and is not giving the D1 return people want they will go back to EDP. Water cooler bragging rights can only take you so far.

The demographic in these types of league near me are fairly well-off, talented soccer crazy kids from educated families.

Many are eyeing college with a career path and the right college fit in mind and trying to find a good soccer fit or use soccer to aid in admission opportunity. Some are only focused on the soccer but that is a minority. Some dont want to play in college at all believe it or not.

i dont think this make-up is unusual at all is these high level, very expensive type leagues.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t most parents who have their kid play in ECNL /DA expecting to have their kid play D1? Or are parents/kids playing ECNL with the idea their Suzies will play D2,D3 soccer? Maybe my kids team is the exception but I would say almost all of the parents have their kid playing ECNL because they think it will lead to a D1 college soccer program. Am I missing something? Hard to believe D2, D3 soccer is the desired outcome with all the time, money and travel ECNL/DA requires. And to me the bottom line is you don’t need ECNL to play at the D2, D3 college soccer level. So if ECNL continues to get watered down and is not giving the D1 return people want they will go back to EDP. Water cooler bragging rights can only take you so far.

Future D1 commitments will be dominated by GDA then ECNL. They will go to DA first.

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Future D1 commitments will be dominated by GDA then ECNL. They will go to DA first.

that is a useless blanket generalization. try to be little more clever when promoting your agenda. gda and ecnl will allow for a big variety of college options so good luck all!

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You are missing a lot of great non ECNL and GDA teams, and I agree Youthsoccerrankings is much more accurate than gotsoccer so use that as your guide. Plenty of EDP/NL teams ranked higher than a lot of the so called “superior” teams you mention. Looking through the 06 and 05 list is pretty obvious to see, check it out. If you have a Non DA or ECNL team in top 200 nationally at U14, U15 and higher that means they are pretty damn good considering this includes all of ECNL and GDA.

OK, I just looked at 05 on YSR (because 06's are 13 and not really a predictor of where they will play during recruiting years). Out of the top 50 teams listed, 4 were NOT ECNL/GDA. 1 from Wisconsin, 1 from Hawaii, 1 from Colorado and 1 from Texas. So what exactly is the point that you're trying to make?

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You probably need a hobby

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I think the OP said top 200, get back at it.

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OK, I just looked at 05 on YSR (because 06's are 13 and not really a predictor of where they will play during recruiting years). Out of the top 50 teams listed, 4 were NOT ECNL/GDA. 1 from Wisconsin, 1 from Hawaii, 1 from Colorado and 1 from Texas. So what exactly is the point that you're trying to make?

Dont make the mistake of looking at national rankings. A regional view would be much more valuable to try to see if there are a variety of strong league options available in any regions.

Whatever is going on in Wisconsin is great for Wisconsin but does a NJ or metro NYC player no good. You would be a fool to choose a local soccer option based on conditions in Wisconsin.

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And do u13 too, just for kicks. You obviously didn’t like those results.

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Must not have liked 06 results so found result that fir his narrative. What a waste of time

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What constitutes an impressive list? If each individual is happy with their choice then so am I. They are not in any way linked. This is the problem when the evaluation of a soccer club has nothing to do with the actual quality of soccer player produced.

SO many posts here, in fact most, do not ever actually evaluate the player OUTSIDE the context of - well if Jane is a top player on a good ECNL team then ..... Thats dumb thinking. For me there are perhaps 15 really elite College soccer programs. There are entire ECNL/GDA teams that will not produce a player capable of playing heavy contributing minutes for ANY of them. Being at the top end of a weak pool of players means nothing in context.

Measuring a Club by the commit list also ignores the rest. How do players from said Club perform IN college. Are they tactically and technically prepared. Do they get their school work done etc. Are they coach able. DO they enjoy it. etc. The analysis done is so superficial its bordering on useless.

Until parents actually look at the information in more depth, they will continue to fall for the marketing that these Clubs are all about.

Who was the last so called elite prospect to come out of NJ and actually go into College and perform at a high level for a big time program? I bet its a very short list. I bet it contains players from Clubs that people did not think were "elite". I bet there are a lot more Club/HS heroes who have failed to live up to the hype.

This was in direct response to some idiot asking how the MF 02 list was. My point was in response to that, and that there are many kids on that team (included my daughter) who has found an excellent athletic and academic fit, and we have found that exposure and connection through our play at the club. So an impressive list for this group is a list of schools where girls will be able to forge ahead with a soccer and academic experience, which allows them the appropriate opportunity to grow and develop as a student athlete. Although most of these are D1 commits there are girls going to play at D3 where the fit for them is exciting and what they were looking for. Hope that makes sense.

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This was in direct response to some idiot asking how the MF 02 list was. My point was in response to that, and that there are many kids on that team (included my daughter) who has found an excellent athletic and academic fit, and we have found that exposure and connection through our play at the club. So an impressive list for this group is a list of schools where girls will be able to forge ahead with a soccer and academic experience, which allows them the appropriate opportunity to grow and develop as a student athlete. Although most of these are D1 commits there are girls going to play at D3 where the fit for them is exciting and what they were looking for. Hope that makes sense.

OF course it makes sense, for that team an every team.

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OF course it makes sense, for that team an every team.

Like I said just responding to the idiot who wanted to poke fun at a group of girls he/she knows nothing about.