Leaving club in season

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Parents do what they think is best, but as seen all over this board, parents are crazy!

The post right above yours is advocating for leaving mid-season because the kid is only playing 25 out of 70 minutes. That doesn't sound like a toxic environment to me. It just sounds like the kid is not very strong relative to the rest of the team. Therefore, the kid is likely not going pro and it's all just recreation hobby stuff anyway. So why make a big production of burning money and being the odd new kid in the middle of the season. Continue training and trying your best and then if it's still not working at the end of the season you should have no problem going down to a less competitive league the following year. Our kids don't need a 'perfect' situation all the time. If anything, that is self-defeating for long-run character development.

Kudos for your apt response… unfortunately TS is not a platform for objective comments such as yours. Some Parents keep installing the wrong “entitled” values in their kids instead of encouraging them to work harder for what they want. Kids wanting more mins should put in more effort to justify playing more mins. Earn the mins instead of badmouthing the coach and club for not rationing equal playing mins to your child who apparently is not performing as well as other players on the team. Competitive soccer is exactly what it is… clubs and coaches are evaluated based on results. To be frank, real development occurs during train sessions and applied in game settings. No player ever develops simply based on game playing mins. Training sessions are more important development tool than games… consider the fact that players spend more time on training sessions each week than they play actual games.

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Kudos for your apt response… unfortunately TS is not a platform for objective comments such as yours. Some Parents keep installing the wrong “entitled” values in their kids instead of encouraging them to work harder for what they want. Kids wanting more mins should put in more effort to justify playing more mins. Earn the mins instead of badmouthing the coach and club for not rationing equal playing mins to your child who apparently is not performing as well as other players on the team. Competitive soccer is exactly what it is… clubs and coaches are evaluated based on results. To be frank, real development occurs during train sessions and applied in game settings. No player ever develops simply based on game playing mins. Training sessions are more important development tool than games… consider the fact that players spend more time on training sessions each week than they play actual games.

Another self acclaimed genius but as usual on here a moron . Anytime an athlete steps on any field it’s all important and games are the test like school the smart ones perform well on the test and sand as soccer the good ones play and excel , practice is fine but club practicing is scrimmaging, good players train at home , now please stop posting

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Another self acclaimed genius but as usual on here a moron . Anytime an athlete steps on any field it’s all important and games are the test like school the smart ones perform well on the test and sand as soccer the good ones play and excel , practice is fine but club practicing is scrimmaging, good players train at home , now please stop posting

Apparently you ain’t no genius and I suspect you ain’t much of a student either. I don’t think you will ever get it but I will break it down for other readers with sense. On the average a 2011 player practices 3x weekly each session being at least 90 mins for a total of 270 mins per week with focus on technical development, agility, IQ enhancement, intra team scrimmage, etc whereas the same player on average plays less than 90 mins of game time each week.

Do you really believe the player will develop more from 270 mins of training time or <90 mins of game time each week?

To prove how dimwitted the poster is I will use his student analogy to hammer home my point. Do students learn more during classwork/ homework or during test/ exam periods? Students learn more (aka develop their knowledge) during classroom sessions (aka training) and are evaluated during test/ exam periods (aka games for players). A student’s performance in a test/ exam is equivalent to a player’s performance in a game. When a student fails a test intelligent parents will secure extra tutoring/ help for their child while some over-entitled parents like this poster will simply blame the teacher and school for their child’s poor performance. Unfortunately this same BS plays out in youth soccer.

I will leave you with this wise saying: “when you point a finger of blame at others, you typically have at least 3 fingers pointing right back at you”.

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Apparently you ain’t no genius and I suspect you ain’t much of a student either. I don’t think you will ever get it but I will break it down for other readers with sense. On the average a 2011 player practices 3x weekly each session being at least 90 mins for a total of 270 mins per week with focus on technical development, agility, IQ enhancement, intra team scrimmage, etc whereas the same player on average plays less than 90 mins of game time each week.

Do you really believe the player will develop more from 270 mins of training time or <90 mins of game time each week?

To prove how dimwitted the poster is I will use his student analogy to hammer home my point. Do students learn more during classwork/ homework or during test/ exam periods? Students learn more (aka develop their knowledge) during classroom sessions (aka training) and are evaluated during test/ exam periods (aka games for players). A student’s performance in a test/ exam is equivalent to a player’s performance in a game. When a student fails a test intelligent parents will secure extra tutoring/ help for their child while some over-entitled parents like this poster will simply blame the teacher and school for their child’s poor performance. Unfortunately this same BS plays out in youth soccer.

I will leave you with this wise saying: “when you point a finger of blame at others, you typically have at least 3 fingers pointing right back at you”.

That was intense my friend I couldnt read the whole thing bc so dumb n boring . Kids train nonstop wt club soccer but at some point the good ones play and yours don’t that’s why your hyping practice , my kids play and some of the kids play other sports but come to games and play the majority of time bc there better than your type of athlete your producing . Maybe you and Allen iverson can discuss practice !!!

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That was intense my friend I couldnt read the whole thing bc so dumb n boring . Kids train nonstop wt club soccer but at some point the good ones play and yours don’t that’s why your hyping practice , my kids play and some of the kids play other sports but come to games and play the majority of time bc there better than your type of athlete your producing . Maybe you and Allen iverson can discuss practice !!!

I said it already you ain’t much of a student - I didn’t expect you to have the stamina to read or comprehend the posts. Laziness must run in your genes

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Apparently you ain’t no genius and I suspect you ain’t much of a student either. I don’t think you will ever get it but I will break it down for other readers with sense. On the average a 2011 player practices 3x weekly each session being at least 90 mins for a total of 270 mins per week with focus on technical development, agility, IQ enhancement, intra team scrimmage, etc whereas the same player on average plays less than 90 mins of game time each week.

Do you really believe the player will develop more from 270 mins of training time or <90 mins of game time each week?

To prove how dimwitted the poster is I will use his student analogy to hammer home my point. Do students learn more during classwork/ homework or during test/ exam periods? Students learn more (aka develop their knowledge) during classroom sessions (aka training) and are evaluated during test/ exam periods (aka games for players). A student’s performance in a test/ exam is equivalent to a player’s performance in a game. When a student fails a test intelligent parents will secure extra tutoring/ help for their child while some over-entitled parents like this poster will simply blame the teacher and school for their child’s poor performance. Unfortunately this same BS plays out in youth soccer.

I will leave you with this wise saying: “when you point a finger of blame at others, you typically have at least 3 fingers pointing right back at you”.

You crazy, drunk or both?

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Kudos for your apt response… unfortunately TS is not a platform for objective comments such as yours. Some Parents keep installing the wrong “entitled” values in their kids instead of encouraging them to work harder for what they want. Kids wanting more mins should put in more effort to justify playing more mins. Earn the mins instead of badmouthing the coach and club for not rationing equal playing mins to your child who apparently is not performing as well as other players on the team. Competitive soccer is exactly what it is… clubs and coaches are evaluated based on results. To be frank, real development occurs during train sessions and applied in game settings. No player ever develops simply based on game playing mins. Training sessions are more important development tool than games… consider the fact that players spend more time on training sessions each week than they play actual games.

Read the post above, crazy dude is clearly responding to himself lol. Get a life!!!!

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You crazy, drunk or both?

Look at the mirror and easily answer your question

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So do you suggest a player stays on a team when they only play a total of 25 minutes out of 70 minute game???? Wouldn’t you rather her go to a team where she plays at least 45 to 50 minutes or maybe even a full game

This was my post.. And I would never leave mid year for lack of playing time. I have encouraged my D to work harder to earn more time and prover herself to the coach. However I sure as hell would leave for the next year and put my kid on a team she will actually play on. My D is in this boat. She deserves more time. When I look back at the games and watch the players in her position playing 45 mins leaving my D with only 25… the starters are no better and not doing much in the game. That’s the problem I have. The training is good but so are other clubs. If the starters were so much better I would understand lack of playing time. But they are not. So if my kid is not going to be valued, I would not keep her there unless it was worth it for other reasons and so far, it’s not.

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This was my post.. And I would never leave mid year for lack of playing time. I have encouraged my D to work harder to earn more time and prover herself to the coach. However I sure as hell would leave for the next year and put my kid on a team she will actually play on. My D is in this boat. She deserves more time. When I look back at the games and watch the players in her position playing 45 mins leaving my D with only 25… the starters are no better and not doing much in the game. That’s the problem I have. The training is good but so are other clubs. If the starters were so much better I would understand lack of playing time. But they are not. So if my kid is not going to be valued, I would not keep her there unless it was worth it for other reasons and so far, it’s not.

Nothing wrong with leaving at the end of the season if you’re dissatisfied with your D’s playing time. In the meantime keep encouraging her to work harder to improve her skills overall. Something sounds off if the other players at the position are not better skilled or perform better. Whatever the case it’s your child, money, and time so make the decision best for your family. Change can be good in the right circumstances.

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Everybody talks about lessons being taught by parents. How about the lesson of when to walk away from a toxic situation or relationship? How about standing up for what’s right? How about not being okay with how people are being treated around you? How about not wasting time when you have a goal you want to achieve? How about walking away from people who go back on their word? How about having the ability and foresight to know cut your losses? How about self worth? How about confidence and self esteem?

There are lessons all around us for kids to learn not just work harder and finish your commitment for some ******* coach or organization who doesn’t give a **** about you . The soccer landscape has changed, if you haven’t noticed there is no loyalty in this game.

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Everybody talks about lessons being taught by parents. How about the lesson of when to walk away from a toxic situation or relationship? How about standing up for what’s right? How about not being okay with how people are being treated around you? How about not wasting time when you have a goal you want to achieve? How about walking away from people who go back on their word? How about having the ability and foresight to know cut your losses? How about self worth? How about confidence and self esteem?

There are lessons all around us for kids to learn not just work harder and finish your commitment for some ******* coach or organization who doesn’t give a **** about you . The soccer landscape has changed, if you haven’t noticed there is no loyalty in this game.

The important lesson here is to move on with class when you decide to do so. There is no need to throw grenade of insults at your old club and teammates just bcos you have decided to move on. You are free to leave for whatever reasons you choose but kindly show some class. No loyalty in this game shouldn’t equate to no class.

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The important lesson here is to move on with class when you decide to do so. There is no need to throw grenade of insults at your old club and teammates just bcos you have decided to move on. You are free to leave for whatever reasons you choose but kindly show some class. No loyalty in this game shouldn’t equate to no class.

Starting to think this is the same butthurt coach all over this thread. Get over it already.

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Everybody talks about lessons being taught by parents. How about the lesson of when to walk away from a toxic situation or relationship? How about standing up for what’s right? How about not being okay with how people are being treated around you? How about not wasting time when you have a goal you want to achieve? How about walking away from people who go back on their word? How about having the ability and foresight to know cut your losses? How about self worth? How about confidence and self esteem?

Nobody would dispute walking away from a situation that is truly toxic, abusive, etc. But most playing time squabbles do not rise to that level.

And it's not clear that these playing time squabbles rise to the level of injustice/what's right. In most cases, the kids are roughly similar in skill level so it's not clear that the bench player actually deserves more time than the starter. Maybe the starter got a lucky break for a variety of reasons, but it's not a grand injustice if that doesn't go your way. And in those cases, the first step is to open a dialogue with the coach about how to earn more playing time, not to leave.

As far as achieving goals, almost all of the bench players are not going pro and are not going to be big-time players. So there is no goal other than having fun, learning life lessons and staying active. That can be accomplished anywhere.

Going back on their word is a tough one. I've never seen coaches make actual ironclad promises about anything ahead of the season, although I have seen lots of parents over-interpret coaches' comments and spin all sorts of fantasies in their heads.

Self worth, confidence and self-esteem do not require being put in an easier situation. Yes, you don't want to wallow in abuse. But challenges are essential for building self-esteem.

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Starting to think this is the same butthurt coach all over this thread. Get over it already.

You must allergic to the word “CLASS”… too much to ask of you it seems. Ok class-less clown keep it going