College changes

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You are thinking like this is professional sports where you basically just change a job location. If you've ever transferred schools, even outside of sports, you'd know that it isn't taken lightly, on a whim, or promise of being on a national playoff contender. Coaches could bring in transfers now but most don't or might bring in 1 or 2 every other year. It would hurt recruitment if they just brought in players from lower ranked colleges since you roster 28 but only play 18. College coaches want to be able to mold and train their team which is why they go out and find pieces and players that fit but not necessarily the "best" at their position. I think conferences are going to put caps on whatever they can to keep schools from free fall spending to win championships since not every school in even the P4 conferences have the means to fully fund athletics.

I will respectfully disagree with you. If you had a daughter playing in a top ranked program coaches will do absolutely anything and everything to improve their team every season. They are not worried about hurting feelings. Your post is based on what you want to believe. So is it treated like a professional sports or not? You then say conferences will put “caps” on whatever? Your post makes no sense.

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I appreciate people's opinions on this but they are just that, opinions. Same with me. There is alot of speculation as to what might happen and how schools will adjust their programs moving forward. I have been reading alot of articles about this as well as talking to my daughters college coach (he is also speculating because decisions will be made above him) What I don't see being discussed here is the amount of money the power schools are on the hook for. From the lawsuit they will pay around $40 million a year for the next 10 years to former student athletes. They will also have to profit share moving forward which is around $20 million a year (I believe $22mil is the cap)...I know the power programs have alot of money but $60 million a year is a huge hit for any business. From I have read those schools will have the biggest cuts to non-revenue generating programs. Just because a power school can have 28 scholarships doesn't mean they will spend the $ on womens soccer.

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I appreciate people's opinions on this but they are just that, opinions. Same with me. There is alot of speculation as to what might happen and how schools will adjust their programs moving forward. I have been reading alot of articles about this as well as talking to my daughters college coach (he is also speculating because decisions will be made above him) What I don't see being discussed here is the amount of money the power schools are on the hook for. From the lawsuit they will pay around $40 million a year for the next 10 years to former student athletes. They will also have to profit share moving forward which is around $20 million a year (I believe $22mil is the cap)...I know the power programs have alot of money but $60 million a year is a huge hit for any business. From I have read those schools will have the biggest cuts to non-revenue generating programs. Just because a power school can have 28 scholarships doesn't mean they will spend the $ on womens soccer.

You talk to your daughter's college coach? Really?

Other than small talk (hello, how was the traffic, big one today coach) I sit back and watch them play. The days of interjecting yourself into your kid's coach's day has ended.

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You talk to your daughter's college coach? Really?

Other than small talk (hello, how was the traffic, big one today coach) I sit back and watch them play. The days of interjecting yourself into your kid's coach's day has ended.

Having a conversation with the coach is hardly injecting yourself. When we were in town a few weeks ago he met a few of the parents for lunch. That bothers you? why do you care?

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Having a conversation with the coach is hardly injecting yourself. When we were in town a few weeks ago he met a few of the parents for lunch. That bothers you? why do you care?

Just weird.

I've seen it all through the Club scene with parents latching onto coaches like plankton, but really thought that ended by college.

Huh, learn something new every day.

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Having a conversation with the coach is hardly injecting yourself. When we were in town a few weeks ago he met a few of the parents for lunch. That bothers you? why do you care?

You mean I can’t pick up the phone and call the college coach when my kid is not playing , starting, traveling, or in the “right” position”- Parent

Nope, not in college you can’t. If you call to talk to a college coach the way you do club coaches, in the nicest way possible they’ll tell you they’re not having that conversation with you. And you just made things worse for your kid.

Get them ready for life, stop holding their hand and let them to talk to their coaches

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You mean I can’t pick up the phone and call the college coach when my kid is not playing , starting, traveling, or in the “right” position”- Parent

Nope, not in college you can’t. If you call to talk to a college coach the way you do club coaches, in the nicest way possible they’ll tell you they’re not having that conversation with you. And you just made things worse for your kid.

Get them ready for life, stop holding their hand and let them to talk to their coaches

"I don't plan to actually sit IN the interview with you, dear. I will sit in the lobby and just text me if you need anything."

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I will respectfully disagree with you. If you had a daughter playing in a top ranked program coaches will do absolutely anything and everything to improve their team every season. They are not worried about hurting feelings. Your post is based on what you want to believe. So is it treated like a professional sports or not? You then say conferences will put “caps” on whatever? Your post makes no sense.

My post is based on the fact that women's soccer coaches are paid just as much or more based on school performance as they would be team performance. Look at some of the worst performing colleges in the P4, consistent losing records in football or basketball would mean coaching changes but not so much in other sports. Sure, they want to make them better but they also don't want to lose the academic bonuses they get.

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I appreciate people's opinions on this but they are just that, opinions. Same with me. There is alot of speculation as to what might happen and how schools will adjust their programs moving forward. I have been reading alot of articles about this as well as talking to my daughters college coach (he is also speculating because decisions will be made above him) What I don't see being discussed here is the amount of money the power schools are on the hook for. From the lawsuit they will pay around $40 million a year for the next 10 years to former student athletes. They will also have to profit share moving forward which is around $20 million a year (I believe $22mil is the cap)...I know the power programs have alot of money but $60 million a year is a huge hit for any business. From I have read those schools will have the biggest cuts to non-revenue generating programs. Just because a power school can have 28 scholarships doesn't mean they will spend the $ on womens soccer.

I agree, there will be cuts to non-revenue sports, I just think women's soccer is safer because of Title IX.

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My post is based on the fact that women's soccer coaches are paid just as much or more based on school performance as they would be team performance. Look at some of the worst performing colleges in the P4, consistent losing records in football or basketball would mean coaching changes but not so much in other sports. Sure, they want to make them better but they also don't want to lose the academic bonuses they get.

Interesting point. I suppose, every school has a breaking point if the team is horrible, but can't argue that for many schools, if the team isn't embarrassing the school and they are pumping up the overall GPA, they can last a long time.

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I agree, there will be cuts to non-revenue sports, I just think women's soccer is safer because of Title IX.

Agreed. I think all womens sports should be safe due to title IX. The question is do schools increase budget for womens soccer and give 28 Full scholarships out. or even do they max out roster at 28 or lessen that number.

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Agreed. I think all womens sports should be safe due to title IX. The question is do schools increase budget for womens soccer and give 28 Full scholarships out. or even do they max out roster at 28 or lessen that number.

I wouldn't say "all"; only that if they are going to cut a women's program they will need to have a corresponding cut on the men's most likely.

I would expect mid-majors to not increase their scholarship $$ too much, if at all. I could be wrong, often am. But just because they CAN, doesn't mean they have the money to. I also realize there is a decent shell-game that occurs with how scholarships are divvied up. My D's team has 14 scholarships available and the roster is 30 (four goalies and a redshirt). I know for a fact there are some players getting 100%, which means you need a corresponding player(s) getting less than half, or none at all. Some of them are getting it on the back end, through academics or financial aid. Conceivably, those dollars will switch buckets from Aid or Academic Merit into the Athletic budget for scholarships.

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I wouldn't say "all"; only that if they are going to cut a women's program they will need to have a corresponding cut on the men's most likely.

I would expect mid-majors to not increase their scholarship $$ too much, if at all. I could be wrong, often am. But just because they CAN, doesn't mean they have the money to. I also realize there is a decent shell-game that occurs with how scholarships are divvied up. My D's team has 14 scholarships available and the roster is 30 (four goalies and a redshirt). I know for a fact there are some players getting 100%, which means you need a corresponding player(s) getting less than half, or none at all. Some of them are getting it on the back end, through academics or financial aid. Conceivably, those dollars will switch buckets from Aid or Academic Merit into the Athletic budget for scholarships.

I think that was largely driven by “equivalency” scholarship limits which have been eliminated

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Will this make academic $$ less important or more important to programs?

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I appreciate people's opinions on this but they are just that, opinions. Same with me. There is alot of speculation as to what might happen and how schools will adjust their programs moving forward. I have been reading alot of articles about this as well as talking to my daughters college coach (he is also speculating because decisions will be made above him) What I don't see being discussed here is the amount of money the power schools are on the hook for. From the lawsuit they will pay around $40 million a year for the next 10 years to former student athletes. They will also have to profit share moving forward which is around $20 million a year (I believe $22mil is the cap)...I know the power programs have alot of money but $60 million a year is a huge hit for any business. From I have read those schools will have the biggest cuts to non-revenue generating programs. Just because a power school can have 28 scholarships doesn't mean they will spend the $ on womens soccer.

All valid points. As fas as TS posters surprised that a parent discussed this with a coach or any other subject happens more than you think. It all depends on the coach and their rules regarding parents. They know early on which parents may be too involved. On Monday the coach of my daughter’s team had a “FaceTime” with all the parents and many asked this very topic.