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    #46
    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    No, if you are a club director you don’t settle for this. What happens now? They give up ECNL? They should target first team ECNL and second ECNL RL … they are becoming second tier clubs and they have teams in the TOP10 of the state.
    This league is non sense, they should all be working to get ECNL or GA, not create a league for tier 2 teams, it’s a waste of effort, money and talent…we have enough intermediate leagues

    You know nothing jon snow

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      #47
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      No, if you are a club director you don’t settle for this. What happens now? They give up ECNL? They should target first team ECNL and second ECNL RL … they are becoming second tier clubs and they have teams in the TOP10 of the state.
      This league is non sense, they should all be working to get ECNL or GA, not create a league for tier 2 teams, it’s a waste of effort, money and talent…we have enough intermediate leagues
      Not sure how adding a team to NPL is giving up ECNL aspirations. Joining a league like this for your B team might be on the tick list to do that. (you would have to have B and C teams in this equation). In terms of a checklist, it might look something like this:

      - Create a robust youth development program
      - Create a robust training program for U13+ to meet the rigors of the ECNL and ECRL leagues and tournaments
      - hire qualified coaches and have a plan for developing existing coaches through training and licensing
      - create a roadmap and plan for adequate (and stable) facilities. Long term leases or purchases of both indoor and outdoor high quality grass or turf facility
      - create a strong club culture
      - Ensure robust financial backing and reserves
      - Creating a plan to differentiate the club in recruiting
      - thinking about a branch network and partnerships to source/funnel talent into ECNL and ECRL teams

      Somewhere around line 15 is "Winning the majority of age brackets" in ECRL.

      then somewhere on like line 25 might be perseverating over how a single team in a single age group "deserves" to be in ECNL because they've won a lot of games.

      US Club Soccer and ECNL care about consistency, not having a couple of single teams that win a bunch of games. They also understand that an ECNL "badge" is a bit of a magnet for talent at HS ages, which is why all of the things above matter most to fit into the overall goals of the league as well as understanding how an additional club might cannibalize other nearby members. Even considering depth of talent, at this point, 05/06 and 07 teams are pretty irrelevant for what clubs they may add. 08 is pretty far behind. If you dont think ECNL/US Club Soccer having control and visibility over the platforms that feed into ECNL matters, then you really have no idea how any of this works.

      So if you think NPL is a waste of time and money, keep posting nonsense on this site and sit at home jerking off over TS posts about "MFS getting ECNL" Instead maybe ask your club what they have done to address the actual criteria ECNL sets out for member clubs. Or maybe it is just Chris L pulling strings for his home club.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Not sure how adding a team to NPL is giving up ECNL aspirations. Joining a league like this for your B team might be on the tick list to do that. (you would have to have B and C teams in this equation). In terms of a checklist, it might look something like this:

        - Create a robust youth development program
        - Create a robust training program for U13+ to meet the rigors of the ECNL and ECRL leagues and tournaments
        - hire qualified coaches and have a plan for developing existing coaches through training and licensing
        - create a roadmap and plan for adequate (and stable) facilities. Long term leases or purchases of both indoor and outdoor high quality grass or turf facility
        - create a strong club culture
        - Ensure robust financial backing and reserves
        - Creating a plan to differentiate the club in recruiting
        - thinking about a branch network and partnerships to source/funnel talent into ECNL and ECRL teams

        Somewhere around line 15 is "Winning the majority of age brackets" in ECRL.

        then somewhere on like line 25 might be perseverating over how a single team in a single age group "deserves" to be in ECNL because they've won a lot of games.

        US Club Soccer and ECNL care about consistency, not having a couple of single teams that win a bunch of games. They also understand that an ECNL "badge" is a bit of a magnet for talent at HS ages, which is why all of the things above matter most to fit into the overall goals of the league as well as understanding how an additional club might cannibalize other nearby members. Even considering depth of talent, at this point, 05/06 and 07 teams are pretty irrelevant for what clubs they may add. 08 is pretty far behind. If you dont think ECNL/US Club Soccer having control and visibility over the platforms that feed into ECNL matters, then you really have no idea how any of this works.

        So if you think NPL is a waste of time and money, keep posting nonsense on this site and sit at home jerking off over TS posts about "MFS getting ECNL" Instead maybe ask your club what they have done to address the actual criteria ECNL sets out for member clubs. Or maybe it is just Chris L pulling strings for his home club.

        Best. Post. Ever.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          Not sure how adding a team to NPL is giving up ECNL aspirations. Joining a league like this for your B team might be on the tick list to do that. (you would have to have B and C teams in this equation). In terms of a checklist, it might look something like this:

          - Create a robust youth development program
          - Create a robust training program for U13+ to meet the rigors of the ECNL and ECRL leagues and tournaments
          - hire qualified coaches and have a plan for developing existing coaches through training and licensing
          - create a roadmap and plan for adequate (and stable) facilities. Long term leases or purchases of both indoor and outdoor high quality grass or turf facility
          - create a strong club culture
          - Ensure robust financial backing and reserves
          - Creating a plan to differentiate the club in recruiting
          - thinking about a branch network and partnerships to source/funnel talent into ECNL and ECRL teams

          Somewhere around line 15 is "Winning the majority of age brackets" in ECRL.

          then somewhere on like line 25 might be perseverating over how a single team in a single age group "deserves" to be in ECNL because they've won a lot of games.

          US Club Soccer and ECNL care about consistency, not having a couple of single teams that win a bunch of games. They also understand that an ECNL "badge" is a bit of a magnet for talent at HS ages, which is why all of the things above matter most to fit into the overall goals of the league as well as understanding how an additional club might cannibalize other nearby members. Even considering depth of talent, at this point, 05/06 and 07 teams are pretty irrelevant for what clubs they may add. 08 is pretty far behind. If you dont think ECNL/US Club Soccer having control and visibility over the platforms that feed into ECNL matters, then you really have no idea how any of this works.

          So if you think NPL is a waste of time and money, keep posting nonsense on this site and sit at home jerking off over TS posts about "MFS getting ECNL" Instead maybe ask your club what they have done to address the actual criteria ECNL sets out for member clubs. Or maybe it is just Chris L pulling strings for his home club.

          1. You were making sense until the dig at mfs/cl at the end.
          2. no one in a 10 mile radius fits all the criteria you’ve laid out.
          3 for mfs, your questions have been asked and addressed but nothing really needs to be publicly broadcast on ts. We good

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            #50
            Originally posted by Guest View Post


            Best. Post. Ever.
            I’d agree if you were asking 10+ years ago. The process is not transparent now, they just say they’d do a review for the last 18 months and that’s it, and only ask you for your eligible teams, not the younger age
            so yes, well written, but completely fake

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              #51
              Originally posted by Guest View Post


              1. You were making sense until the dig at mfs/cl at the end.
              2. no one in a 10 mile radius fits all the criteria you’ve laid out.
              3 for mfs, your questions have been asked and addressed but nothing really needs to be publicly broadcast on ts. We good
              Well, the fact that the person in charge of ECNL RL is CL does help his argument about MFA…
              how can Mercer, with only one good team (that is not even in ECNL age yet) get ECNL RL?

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                #52
                I totally agree with the post I made and I am sure I will also agree with it tomorrow when I post that I agree with it again and again

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                  #53
                  simply put, you are going to have girls playing in NPL that could not make their own town team but their parents think they are good enough to get a D1 scholarship so they are willing to pay the high fees and travel 2+ hours (depending on traffic and time of day) to play against Long Island teams when they would be better off having fun on a MOSA or SJSL or Mid NJ soccer team.

                  BUT isnt this what these clubs want so they can make more money?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Quickstrike FC – “Quickstrike FC is proud to be one of the founding members of the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League alongside other prestigious clubs within the Northeast ECNL RL. Coming together to provide our players with the best opportunities to compete at the highest levels in a top club platform further develops our full club model and provides a great opportunity throughout the Hudson Valley. We are especially honored to share this experience with other high-quality clubs and look forward to the journey ahead.” - Brittany Kolmel, Director of Coaching

                    NJ Crush – “We are excited to be part of the Mid-Atlantic Premier League and the opportunities ahead. The NPL brand will help provide growth within our community and create a pathway to a national platform with college exposure.” - Lee Glover, Executive Director

                    FC Copa Academy – "We are thrilled to join the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League as founding members alongside the esteemed clubs of the Northeast ECNL RL. This partnership promises consistent high-quality competition and enhanced collegiate exposure for our players and families. We are eager to provide an exceptional platform to a wider range of our Copa family members." - Roberto Aguas, Director of Coaching

                    LI Slammers – “Long Island Slammers is extremely excited to be part of the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League. We are equally excited about joining this league with our member clubs from the Northeast ECNL RL. The NPL league will help our players reach their goals developmentally and give them a pathway to be seen by college coaches.” - Mark Dawson, Girls Academy Director

                    NY Surf – “NY Surf is thrilled to be part of the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League. By joining like-minded clubs, it will help us continue to compete in top club platforms that play at the highest levels and offer college recruiting opportunities to our players.” - Jonathan Feinstein, Technical Director

                    LVU Rush – “LVU Rush is extremely excited to be part of the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League. We are joining with like-minded clubs with our Northeast ECNL RL members to give even more players an opportunity to compete in a great platform that has college recruiting opportunities.” - Kristian Bates, Technical Director

                    Next Level SA – “Next Level SA is incredibly excited to be one of the founding members of the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League. This league fits our club identity with creating a perfect pathway for our players by providing high-level soccer with like-minded clubs and college recruiting opportunities for our players looking to take the next step in their next soccer career.” - Connor Marino, Director of Coaching

                    Manhattan SC – “Manhattan SC is thrilled to join the Mid-Atlantic Premier League and provide additional players with a pathway to maximizing their potential. We are especially honored to share this experience with other high-quality Northeast ECNL RL clubs. We want to compete for a national championship and amplify college recruiting opportunities for our players along the way.” - Shari Eckstrom, Director of Coaching

                    PDA-SCP – “Sporting Club Premier is very excited to join the NPL’s Mid-Atlantic Premier League with our club members from the Northeast ECNL RL. The Mid-Atlantic Premier League is providing a great opportunity for our players to compete at a high level and provide college exposure for our HS players.” - Jeff Eisele, Director of Coaching​
                    So were they given a list of key phrases to put in their "statements"?

                    3 teams used the term "like-minded", 3 are "thrilled", almost everyone of them mentioned "college", with 4 mentioning "college recruiting opportunities"

                    how really really sad is this? How many sucker parents will fall for this?

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                      #55
                      ok, let's look at these clubs 2011 B teams:

                      FC Copa Academy (NJ)<-- Their Copa Flemington team folded right before season started (after brackets came out), and their A team was EDP-5
                      Lehigh Valley United (PA)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                      LI Slammers (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                      Manhattan SC (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                      New Jersey Crush (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall
                      Next Level SA (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall
                      NY Surf (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                      Quickstrike FC (NY)<-- EDP-WCH-HV-II in the fall, which from what I can tell is EDP-6 for NYCS
                      Sporting Club Premier – PDA (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall if you count Roxbury as the B team BUT SCP couldnt even field an A team and had NJ14 play for them in ECRL

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                        #56
                        their site is hilarious. Most links are NOT valid (the one about pricing is), but I also saw this:

                        For the 2024/2025 season, the Mid Atlantic Premier League club v club division will remain inclusive to members of the ECNL Regional League Northeast as a second tier club v club division for their second teams. As we move forward though we look forward to accepting membership applications for membership into the Mid Atlantic Premier League for the 2025/2026 season. However, if you and a group of clubs are looking to form their own NPL league underneath the Mid Atlantic Premier League, please fill out the application below. We are considering creating an additional division with those interested clubs outside the current ECNL-RL club v club set up, and also considering expansion for a boys division, and 9v9 divisions.

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                          #57
                          never thought I would say this, but I finally found a league that is worse than Elite 64!!!!!

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            ok, let's look at these clubs 2011 B teams:

                            FC Copa Academy (NJ)<-- Their Copa Flemington team folded right before season started (after brackets came out), and their A team was EDP-5
                            Lehigh Valley United (PA)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                            LI Slammers (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                            Manhattan SC (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                            New Jersey Crush (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall
                            Next Level SA (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall
                            NY Surf (NY)<-- cant find their B team, probably in some MOSA type league
                            Quickstrike FC (NY)<-- EDP-WCH-HV-II in the fall, which from what I can tell is EDP-6 for NYCS
                            Sporting Club Premier – PDA (NJ)<-- EDP-6 in the fall if you count Roxbury as the B team BUT SCP couldnt even field an A team and had NJ14 play for them in ECRL
                            so to paraphrase, you dont know where the non-NJ teams play, so you'll assume its a MOSA level league.

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                              #59
                              If the A teams that play ECRL2 are mediocre, the B teams that play in NPL will be terrible. No need to travel this much as a B team when they can play EDP 5 or 6 or something else. Waste of time and money (most of youth soccer is)

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                and some like SCP/PDA have zero on some ages
                                It's embarrassing for PDA that they need to license their name to this kind of club. I guess it's a double edge sword. I'm guessing that the money that a team like SCP pays to wear a quasi-PDA badge on their shoulder helps fund the real PDA teams, but it also devalues the PDA brand. PDA Blue parents already think that the PDA White and Shore teams bring down their name. Imagine how this makes them feel.....

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