Jeff Cup 2023 Showcase ECNL vs GA Results

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At the November PDA showcase Penn Fusion beat FCV 1-0 and PDA Blue beat them 4-1.

Can we please stop acting like FCV is something special?

So that puts Penn Fusion at 2-1 against FCV with a + 5 goal differential over 3 games. Give it a rest.

You fail to understand how things work. FCV and several other GA clubs have played ECNL clubs at various showcases and have held their own. Winning 2-1 or even 4-1 once doesn't mean either team is dominant over the other it just means on any given weekend either can win. Now if these teams were losing constantly then yes, you could say they are worse. FCV has shown to be more competitive with local ECNL than almost every other club currently in ECNL as have a few other GA clubs.

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Don’t get too worked up. These are the same fools that think PDA beating CSA 9-0 means that ECNL is that much better. Based on a random game with no importance or meaning.

You left out CSA doesn't win other games either so yeah PDA is that much better but so are tons of other local NJ teams.

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You fail to understand how things work. FCV and several other GA clubs have played ECNL clubs at various showcases and have held their own. Winning 2-1 or even 4-1 once doesn't mean either team is dominant over the other it just means on any given weekend either can win. Now if these teams were losing constantly then yes, you could say they are worse. FCV has shown to be more competitive with local ECNL than almost every other club currently in ECNL as have a few other GA clubs.

FCV 07 is the NATIONAL CHAMPION. They are "the best" team in the entire league, and they lose the majority of the time they play against ECNL teams, none of which even made the ECNL finals last year. I think that is the main point.

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FCV 07 is the NATIONAL CHAMPION. They are "the best" team in the entire league, and they lose the majority of the time they play against ECNL teams, none of which even made the ECNL finals last year. I think that is the main point.

They were national champions LAST year. This year they are just 3rd place in the mid Atlantic conference. Maybe they have different players or injuries or maybe last year was just a cinderella run like when a 12 seed makes it to the final four. There is so much luck that goes into winning championships which is why it's rare to see repeat champions in any pro sport let alone youth sports. It's stupid to draw definitive conclusions from limited games involving 15 year olds.

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Why do we need to know which league or club or team is "the best"? It's fine that there are multiple leagues and local teams that don't play against each other. At the end of the day, these elite leagues serve their purpose which is to facilitate an environment for college scouts. The game results don't matter to the scouts. Only crazed parents.

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Why do we need to know which league or club or team is "the best"? It's fine that there are multiple leagues and local teams that don't play against each other. At the end of the day, these elite leagues serve their purpose which is to facilitate an environment for college scouts. The game results don't matter to the scouts. Only crazed parents.

Sorry highlander, their can be only 1

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FCV 07 is the NATIONAL CHAMPION. They are "the best" team in the entire league, and they lose the majority of the time they play against ECNL teams, none of which even made the ECNL finals last year. I think that is the main point.

FYI, FCV has a different coach than last year. FYI, the 07 USYNT striker did not play at PDA Showcase or Jeff Cup. FYI, see the 08s results at PF Showcase. FYI, FCV 07s are far from the best 2007 GA team…they got lucky. FYI, FCV is well known they do not play to win at showcases and the bench gets equal playing time. They are more worried about getting ALL of the players looks in front of college coaches. Not every club plays to win everything like many ECNL clubs. FYI, the FCV 06s beat Real Jersey 06s and also tied PDA Blue 06s.

FYI, the 2010 GA MidAtlantic is a actually a very tough division up top. SJEB tied Bethesda and beat Concorde ECNL at Jeff Cup. Ukies is one of the teams in the US currently.

I could go on and on and on. ECNL is the better league top to bottom no doubt BUT the top GA teams will hang with the top ECNL teams all day everyday.

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True FCV's striker was not at the PF game and they were missing another starter.

ECNL and GA are both good platforms. Lots of talent in both leagues. When FCV has its full team together, it's much different.

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FYI, FCV has a different coach than last year. FYI, the 07 USYNT striker did not play at PDA Showcase or Jeff Cup. FYI, see the 08s results at PF Showcase. FYI, FCV 07s are far from the best 2007 GA team…they got lucky. FYI, FCV is well known they do not play to win at showcases and the bench gets equal playing time. They are more worried about getting ALL of the players looks in front of college coaches. Not every club plays to win everything like many ECNL clubs. FYI, the FCV 06s beat Real Jersey 06s and also tied PDA Blue 06s.

FYI, the 2010 GA MidAtlantic is a actually a very tough division up top. SJEB tied Bethesda and beat Concorde ECNL at Jeff Cup. Ukies is one of the teams in the US currently.

I could go on and on and on. ECNL is the better league top to bottom no doubt BUT the top GA teams will hang with the top ECNL teams all day everyday.

No, they will not. There is very clear line between the two leagues. One is top the other one is second tier.

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True FCV's striker was not at the PF game and they were missing another starter.

ECNL and GA are both good platforms. Lots of talent in both leagues. When FCV has its full team together, it's much different.

We are comparing one half decent GA team that won a national championship with clubs from one average ECNL conference. Do you realize there are ECNL clubs from TX, California, Midwest that are much better than clubs in ECNL North Atlantic Conference. FCV compared to these teams is second tier of not third. It give you a perspective of a difference between two leagues.

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We are comparing one half decent GA team that won a national championship with clubs from one average ECNL conference. Do you realize there are ECNL clubs from TX, California, Midwest that are much better than clubs in ECNL North Atlantic Conference. FCV compared to these teams is second tier of not third. It give you a perspective of a difference between two leagues.

LOL at PF and PDA being average. Feel free to tell me how many PDA teams made at least semi’s last year. Penn Fusion too. Also let me know how many teams made it out of Group play from ECNL playoffs. I hate blind ECNL fan boys. ECNL is the better league but to write off clubs like FCV, Tophat and Nationals among other is rediculous and stupid.

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LOL at PF and PDA being average. Feel free to tell me how many PDA teams made at least semi’s last year. Penn Fusion too. Also let me know how many teams made it out of Group play from ECNL playoffs. I hate blind ECNL fan boys. ECNL is the better league but to write off clubs like FCV, Tophat and Nationals among other is rediculous and stupid.

Where did I say PDA and PF are average? I said the NA conference is average. No reason to lie.

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We are comparing one half decent GA team that won a national championship with clubs from one average ECNL conference. Do you realize there are ECNL clubs from TX, California, Midwest that are much better than clubs in ECNL North Atlantic Conference. FCV compared to these teams is second tier of not third. It give you a perspective of a difference between two leagues.

Poke around here for last years guesstimate of ECNL teams by age https://upper90rankings.com/. I'm sure no one will argue that PDA South is by far the weakest club in ECNL in the area and that a good number of GA clubs would take at least 3 of 6 of the ages if they went club v club. And yet PDA South isn't the worst club nationally on that list. Sure there are ECNL teams from other states that would completely own any GA and ECNL team in the area but there are also GA teams that could do the same in ECNL.

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No, they will not. There is very clear line between the two leagues. One is top the other one is second tier.

For a 2nd tier league the GA sure does get a lot of wins and ties against a lot of teams in ECNL. Enough so that ECNL parents need to defend to the death the ECNL league and why it is the best. ECNL may have the better collection of the best clubs but they don't have nearly all of them and they sure do have a lot of mediocre and lower clubs still hanging around.

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For a 2nd tier league the GA sure does get a lot of wins and ties against a lot of teams in ECNL. Enough so that ECNL parents need to defend to the death the ECNL league and why it is the best. ECNL may have the better collection of the best clubs but they don't have nearly all of them and they sure do have a lot of mediocre and lower clubs still hanging around.

For a 2nd tier league GA sure does place a lot of players in college. Top tier GA teams are placing most if not all of their players, just like ECNL. Mid and lower tier GA teams are placing a handful just like mid and lower tier ECNL teams. The top tier ECNL teams would beat top tier GA teams in a head to head game, but in terms of college placement they are comparable