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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    Possible, but if she has told the coach and he has not informed or lies to the rest of the team/parents, it will do more harm than good. it wouldn’t be the first time a coach didn’t inform but soccer parents are crazy. That type of behavior would end most teams or cause parents to at least listen away
    It really isn't the anyone's business what someone is doing with their child. Everyone should be looking out for their own child and getting them to a place where they can grow. What one person does should not affect another. If the rest of the team is happy, then there are no worries.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      It really isn't the anyone's business what someone is doing with their child. Everyone should be looking out for their own child and getting them to a place where they can grow. What one person does should not affect another. If the rest of the team is happy, then there are no worries.
      Correct in theory and you illustrated the point of not just soccer parents but all sports in general. Everyone is out for themselves. The sooner people realize that the better you will all understand youth sports. What any parent in competitive sports sees is one of the greatest illusions of all time weekly. The same people applauding are the ones that do the most behind the scenes damage with their lobbying and bashing. They will sell you out to get their kids more time or be put in a better position for success.

      Where I disagree is that when someone leaves it always changes the dynamic of a team. New players, new personalities, new system and learning curve for players and parents. When you start to have 2, 3, 4 or more leave as indicated in this thread, your team is no longer a team. When your replace 25% or more expect major changes to come and not always for the better. While competition is healthy, you need the right communication and people in place to keep the personalities in check in those type of situations. The inmates running the asylum analogy could be used in any youth sports culture.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Correct in theory and you illustrated the point of not just soccer parents but all sports in general. Everyone is out for themselves. The sooner people realize that the better you will all understand youth sports. What any parent in competitive sports sees is one of the greatest illusions of all time weekly. The same people applauding are the ones that do the most behind the scenes damage with their lobbying and bashing. They will sell you out to get their kids more time or be put in a better position for success.

        Where I disagree is that when someone leaves it always changes the dynamic of a team. New players, new personalities, new system and learning curve for players and parents. When you start to have 2, 3, 4 or more leave as indicated in this thread, your team is no longer a team. When your replace 25% or more expect major changes to come and not always for the better. While competition is healthy, you need the right communication and people in place to keep the personalities in check in those type of situations. The inmates running the asylum analogy could be used in any youth sports culture.
        I completely agree with the second part! My daughters team this happen. We were a competitive team half left for encl and ga and we haven’t recovered. I wish I knew because my daughter is stuck and now were looking around ourselves to get out of what we stayed with. No fault to the new girls it just isn’t the team we originally were and my daughter is very unhappy that the team can’t compete which holds her progression back

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          I completely agree with the second part! My daughters team this happen. We were a competitive team half left for encl and ga and we haven’t recovered. I wish I knew because my daughter is stuck and now were looking around ourselves to get out of what we stayed with. No fault to the new girls it just isn’t the team we originally were and my daughter is very unhappy that the team can’t compete which holds her progression back
          Any National Level, GA or ECNL program is ultimately where you want your kid to be. ECNL Showcases as we all know have the most college scouts but it is on the players themselves to make collegiate coaches aware of when they are playing in a high level tournament. ECNL does nothing more than attract coaches. The kids have to work themselves to get the coaches attention, not mommy and daddy saying my kid is a star and club bounce. Its unfortunate but most teams fall apart due to the lack of communication from the coach/trainer and support staff - Sending out fancy emails and posting social media clips is not communication. Parents that feel their child is being the short end and have outgrown their current club are the other reason.

          Every program needs a plan in place. Your point of contact coach, trainer, team parent or whomever else better have as many contacts as the coach. You need to know what showcases are upcoming so the players know the coaches that THEY need to reach out to. Most importantly the point of contact needs to know who you are in danger of losing, problems within the club, players looking to come and be the biggest supporter of your club in addition to all of the finances and workings of the club. They are in reality the face of your program. That is why all of the clubs from recreation through travel have a chain of command. If you are a one stop shop with a coach, trainer, treasurer, secretary etc and someone is unwilling to realize their shortcomings be cautious. This is more than likely to end in failure.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            I completely agree with the second part! My daughters team this happen. We were a competitive team half left for encl and ga and we haven’t recovered. I wish I knew because my daughter is stuck and now were looking around ourselves to get out of what we stayed with. No fault to the new girls it just isn’t the team we originally were and my daughter is very unhappy that the team can’t compete which holds her progression back
            Only thing holding her progression back is the mindset that progression is tied to something other than herself.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Possible, but if she has told the coach and he has not informed or lies to the rest of the team/parents, it will do more harm than good. it wouldn’t be the first time a coach didn’t inform but soccer parents are crazy. That type of behavior would end most teams or cause parents to at least listen away
              Exactly! Coach knows she’s gone but doesn’t want to mention it to the rest of the team because that would be two defensive players that have left and maybe a goalie as well. And it does change the dynamics of a team. No amount of “B” player band aids will help either.

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                I completely agree with the second part! My daughters team this happen. We were a competitive team half left for encl and ga and we haven’t recovered. I wish I knew because my daughter is stuck and now were looking around ourselves to get out of what we stayed with. No fault to the new girls it just isn’t the team we originally were and my daughter is very unhappy that the team can’t compete which holds her progression back
                If she is as good as the ones who left, bring her to tryouts for ECNL or GA teams.

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  Exactly! Coach knows she’s gone but doesn’t want to mention it to the rest of the team because that would be two defensive players that have left and maybe a goalie as well. And it does change the dynamics of a team. No amount of “B” player band aids will help either.
                  If the coach is a good trainer, he should be able to develop those so called "b" players and it should be fine.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Exactly! Coach knows she’s gone but doesn’t want to mention it to the rest of the team because that would be two defensive players that have left and maybe a goalie as well. And it does change the dynamics of a team. No amount of “B” player band aids will help either.
                    None of anyone's damn business. Get a grip people it is youth soccer.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      None of anyone's damn business. Get a grip people it is youth soccer.
                      True!

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        None of anyone's damn business. Get a grip people it is youth soccer.
                        Are you saying a parent and players that are on a team do not need to know when a player is added or deleted off of a roster? This may be the silliest take on this entire website if that is the case. That has a direct effect on the team, so if my son or daughter is on the team it most certainly is my business if there are changes. I don’t need to know the family reasons for leaving or adding - that is none of my business. But everyone needs to know

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          If the coach is a good trainer, he should be able to develop those so called "b" players and it should be fine.
                          I agree if you have a high quality trainer it is a step in the right direction. The difference is adding a group of developing players that are works in progress to a team is different than adding players that are level ready. Look at any top level ECNL, GA or National program. There is limited to no drop off between players 1-20 on a roster. Replacing players developing for players that have successfully competed at the high level will be a tough sell to anyone that is being told you are a top level team. The kids in development should participate in practices, scrimmages and be given an opportunity to play if warranted, but expect limited to no playing time. You cannot allocate roster spots to numerous developmental players and expect to fire on all cylinders or have it be taken easily by anyone.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Exactly! Coach knows she’s gone but doesn’t want to mention it to the rest of the team because that would be two defensive players that have left and maybe a goalie as well. And it does change the dynamics of a team. No amount of “B” player band aids will help either.
                            So there are three players gone?

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              So there are three players gone?

                              Seems like it is speculation. I am sure once they decide, all necessary parties will be advised.

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post


                                Seems like it is speculation. I am sure once they decide, all necessary parties will be advised.
                                Speculation leads to drama and problems always

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