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Duh ECNL is 5x the size. So they should have more players. from our area its 50/50- NY GA & SUSA ECNL- which is really all that matters. Unless you plan to move to Texas.
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They went for “training” only before the tournament. They never made the roster.
Regardless they didn’t dress. The representation for GA does not indicate a US Soccer “love” for GA.
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I'm not sure what the argument is??? The top GA teams nationally produce just as many P5 scholarships as top ECNL teams. Outside of that, better off in ECNL. Feel free to use any major tournament that includes both GA and ECNL teams, like Jeff Cup, if you want to argue which has the better top teams. 2008 Nationals could hang, if not beat any ECNL team. Same could be said for 2007 FCV or 2006 Albion. Graduating class from '22 FC Bay Area Surf is another team that was pretty incredible.
But, and I mean BUT, once you get outside of the top one or two clubs from each division, families should try to commit to ECNL Clubs because the drop off is so steep. I don't think that makes top GA teams any worse than ECNL just because they play a weaker schedule. That's the reason for Jeff Cup and Champions League. College Coaches are at these events scouting and evaluating, not lonely league games against Sporting Delaware and Metro United.
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Originally posted by Guest View PostI'm not sure what the argument is??? The top GA teams nationally produce just as many P5 scholarships as top ECNL teams. Outside of that, better off in ECNL. Feel free to use any major tournament that includes both GA and ECNL teams, like Jeff Cup, if you want to argue which has the better top teams. 2008 Nationals could hang, if not beat any ECNL team. Same could be said for 2007 FCV or 2006 Albion. Graduating class from '22 FC Bay Area Surf is another team that was pretty incredible.
But, and I mean BUT, once you get outside of the top one or two clubs from each division, families should try to commit to ECNL Clubs because the drop off is so steep. I don't think that makes top GA teams any worse than ECNL just because they play a weaker schedule. That's the reason for Jeff Cup and Champions League. College Coaches are at these events scouting and evaluating, not lonely league games against Sporting Delaware and Metro United.
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So if an ECNL team has 20 on the roster and only 18 dress for a game, then the other two are not on the team?
Those 4 girls, like all the other girls are a part of the US Soccer player pool. They are not on the team unless they are actually on the roster. They might make the team for another tourney but they ALL are a part of the player pool. In the context of being in a player pool they were not rostered for competition, so they were "not on the team". It is that simple. The "team" is very fluid and they were not selected to play. This is not a commentary on the kids or their talent. Simply being in the player pool is a tremendous accomplishment, but while those four girls went back home after training while the team went on to play, if you asked those four girls if they felt like they were "a part of the team" I promise you that they would say "no".
If the 2 girls on the ECNL team are not asked to dress for a weekend trip I doubt they would feel a part of the team either.
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So if an ECNL team has 20 on the roster and only 18 dress for a game, then the other two are not on the team?
Players are called into NT pools, essentially as a try-out. The pick a roster for "tournaments" (i.e. qualifying, cups, etc.). Those rosters are locked, with the exception with some allow for a replacement should there be an injury. Those players not picked are, at best, alternates. They likely don't even travel with the team.
An ECNL roster has 20+ players, some of whom rotate with 18 at the game. The others may not play one game, but will the next. So it's a fluid game-day roster vs. one that is locked.
Does that help?
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No one is really scouting ECNL league games unless top ECNL team. No one cares about Jeff Cup. That event is lightly attended by GA clubs anyway due to the GA spring showcase. If you aren’t on a top ECNL or GA team, you will have to do ID clinics, etc. At least at those events they divide the ECNL/GA kids from the USYS kids.
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Another parent who doesn’t understand the business of club soccer. Why would ECNL want anything to do with any other league when they are the top league in the country. A GA team would make the move immediately if they are invited to join. Why would ECNL want to make it one league. What’s the benefit to them? Besides just a few years ago US Soccer introduced GDA to compete against ECNL with the intent of putting them out of business. Know you want them to work together?
"top league in the country" is a perception created by size, scale and marketing, which has zero impact on your child's ability/chances of actually improving at soccer. Intent of putting them out of business? Your view. Mine is the intent was to try to streamline development, a byproduct of that was competition.
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"top league in the country" is a perception created by size, scale and marketing, which has zero impact on your child's ability/chances of actually improving at soccer. Intent of putting them out of business? Your view. Mine is the intent was to try to streamline development, a byproduct of that was competition.
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Everyone but NT players need to do ID camps. Just stop with this fantasy. Just being on a top team does not mean that EVERY player on that team is head and shoulders above players on other ECNL teams. You're living in fantasy land if you actually believe this.
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