USYS Elite 64 Questions

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All I was saying earlier is that they are setting up to remove themselves from MLSNext. Sure they'll play some local friendlies, but ultimately the won't want games that count against non-professional clubs. But they won't make the move until they know their academies are all in a better position than the amateur clubs. This won't take long.

And again you are wrong. Even more wrong then before because your claim has been thoroughly refuted already.

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And again you are wrong. Even more wrong then before because your claim has been thoroughly refuted already.

True that. MLS Next ain’t going anywhere.

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True that. MLS Next ain’t going anywhere.

The USL thought the same thing.

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The USL thought the same thing.

No one cares about USL.

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True that. MLS Next ain’t going anywhere.

The MLS barely makes any money. It’s considered by some to be a Ponzi scheme. The first thing that will go is the dead weight of academies.

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The MLS barely makes any money. It’s considered by some to be a Ponzi scheme. The first thing that will go is the dead weight of academies.

The pro clubs pushed to get out of BDA because they didn't like any of it. If it were possible for them to only play other pro clubs they would but the costs would be too much. They also would love to jettison at least half the teams, maybe train one younger team and one older team. It costs them a great deal to run these teams and getting the occasional homegrown doesn't begin to cover expenses

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The MLS barely makes any money. It’s considered by some to be a Ponzi scheme. The first thing that will go is the dead weight of academies.

Which is why I laugh when people claim NWSL will run free girls teams. They can't even pay their utility bills.

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The MLS barely makes any money. It’s considered by some to be a Ponzi scheme. The first thing that will go is the dead weight of academies.

Pro sports is, year over year, rarely profitable. Owners make money by building a brand and selling the team for an amount that exceeds the initial investment plus year over year losses. The cost of reserve and academy teams is virtually nothing compared to the overall year over year losses. Additionally, if done right, the Academy can defer losses. A good academy has three goals: 1. Get one player per year to the first team for a cheap contract price (i.e. cheaper than buying the same player on the open market). 2. Get one player per year to the reserve team at a contract price (much, much cheaper than buying a similar player on the open market) and 3. Sell a player on the open market at an amount that would cover the salary of #1 and #2 and defer some academy costs.

In Europe #3 normally covers the entire academy cost. So if the argument is that these clubs will drop an academy due to some idea that airfare and hotel are issues, you haven't looked at the bigger expense picture.

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Pro sports is, year over year, rarely profitable. Owners make money by building a brand and selling the team for an amount that exceeds the initial investment plus year over year losses. The cost of reserve and academy teams is virtually nothing compared to the overall year over year losses. Additionally, if done right, the Academy can defer losses. A good academy has three goals: 1. Get one player per year to the first team for a cheap contract price (i.e. cheaper than buying the same player on the open market). 2. Get one player per year to the reserve team at a contract price (much, much cheaper than buying a similar player on the open market) and 3. Sell a player on the open market at an amount that would cover the salary of #1 and #2 and defer some academy costs.

In Europe #3 normally covers the entire academy cost. So if the argument is that these clubs will drop an academy due to some idea that airfare and hotel are issues, you haven't looked at the bigger expense picture.

Good points. But dont think the argument is that they won’t drop money on airfare or hotel. They obviously will. Heck the Union U15 just spent a month in Austria. They are just not going to do it every weekend for every team. People need to consider that playing MLS non academies affords the academy teams opportunities to play kids up, play their bench or bioband. But it’s silly to think that MLS academies will only play academy teams in the future. Just not realistic from a logistics, economics or development standpoint.

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Pro sports is, year over year, rarely profitable. Owners make money by building a brand and selling the team for an amount that exceeds the initial investment plus year over year losses. The cost of reserve and academy teams is virtually nothing compared to the overall year over year losses. Additionally, if done right, the Academy can defer losses. A good academy has three goals: 1. Get one player per year to the first team for a cheap contract price (i.e. cheaper than buying the same player on the open market). 2. Get one player per year to the reserve team at a contract price (much, much cheaper than buying a similar player on the open market) and 3. Sell a player on the open market at an amount that would cover the salary of #1 and #2 and defer some academy costs.

In Europe #3 normally covers the entire academy cost. So if the argument is that these clubs will drop an academy due to some idea that airfare and hotel are issues, you haven't looked at the bigger expense picture.

wrong. Many USA pro sports are wildly profitable. TV deals make them the most money. MLS will fail.

https://apsportseditors.org/others/m...ports-leagues/

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the mls barely makes any money. It’s considered by some to be a ponzi scheme. The first thing that will go is the dead weight of academies.

from your mouth to gods ears!!!

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from your mouth to gods ears!!!

Elite 64 won’t last long

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Good points. But dont think the argument is that they won’t drop money on airfare or hotel. They obviously will. Heck the Union U15 just spent a month in Austria. They are just not going to do it every weekend for every team. People need to consider that playing MLS non academies affords the academy teams opportunities to play kids up, play their bench or bioband. But it’s silly to think that MLS academies will only play academy teams in the future. Just not realistic from a logistics, economics or development standpoint.

The kids on that u15 team will sell for 30m in the next 5 years. Those kids were being put in the shop window- very smart GM they have down there.

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wrong. Many USA pro sports are wildly profitable. TV deals make them the most money. MLS will fail.

https://apsportseditors.org/others/m...ports-leagues/

Wrong.

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/20...-mexico-canada

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STA has ECNL & ECRL. Currently their "C" team plays under the traditional USYS format. I would assume the C team is the USYS Elite 64 team.