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**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

ECNL has almost all the NJ talent according to https://youthsoccerrankings.us/

2004

PDA
Match Fit
STA
PDA RL
CSA

2005

PDA
PDA White
Match Fit
CSA
Real

2006

PDA
Real
Match Fit
STA
SJEB

2007

PDA
Match Fit
PDA White
CSA
PDA South

2008

PDA
SJEB
PDA White
STA
Match Fit

2009

Match Fit
PDA
SJEB
B'Elite
PDA White

2010

PDA
SJEB
Match Fit
CSA
PDA White

2011

PDA
Match Fit Shore
Match Fit
Match Fit Shore White
Torpedoes

If ECNL and these acadamies are so great shouldnt they be the top 5 in all age groups?

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:06 PM

Hmmm...not true. All of these teams are quite capable of beating the other on a given day. PDA Blue is above the rest, that's just a fact and they would be whether they were ECNL, GA or whatever. FC Virginia is right behind them (and routinely beats ECNL clubs). You'll see scattered results. ECNL and GA teams can both lose or draw against USYS teams as well.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

GA teams uniformly lose to ECNL teams whenever they play head to head, which is really all that you need to know.

And ECNL teams lose to non GA teams but you knew that already.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:13 PM

TSJ FCV used to beat ECNL teams 2-3 years ago but those days are over.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

And ECNL teams lose to non GA teams but you knew that already.

Haven't seen this

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

Hmmm...not true. All of these teams are quite capable of beating the other on a given day. PDA Blue is above the rest, that's just a fact and they would be whether they were ECNL, GA or whatever. FC Virginia is right behind them (and routinely beats ECNL clubs). You'll see scattered results. ECNL and GA teams can both lose or draw against USYS teams as well.

The debate was over the talent pools of ECNL vs GA vs USYS. Of course anyone can win a single game on any given day but that's not what was being discussed.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 02:29 PM

My D left a GDA club and went ECNL. I can say that player pool at ECNL is multiple times bigger. The GDA/GA club she was at pulled from probably 3 or 4 counties radius. Her ECNL club has kids driving from hours away. No question it is way bigger and they absolutely have their pick of players.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 04:03 PM

We came from outside to ECNL and its been fine. don't see much difference between the players and talent level.

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

ECNL has almost all the NJ talent according to https://youthsoccerrankings.us/

2004

PDA
Match Fit
STA
PDA RL
CSA

2005

PDA
PDA White
Match Fit
CSA
Real

2006

PDA
Real
Match Fit
STA
SJEB

2007

PDA
Match Fit
PDA White
CSA
PDA South

2008

PDA
SJEB
PDA White
STA
Match Fit

2009

Match Fit
PDA
SJEB
B'Elite
PDA White

2010

PDA
SJEB
Match Fit
CSA
PDA White

2011

PDA
Match Fit Shore
Match Fit
Match Fit Shore White
Torpedoes

This post comes from a club member that knows how the ranking systems work and a club that lives off trying to attract players to fill rosters off ranking websites. Can you guess which club?

**Guest** · 12-22-2021, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

TSJ FCV used to beat ECNL teams 2-3 years ago but those days are over.

You are ill informed. FCV has beaten Connecticut FC, Charlotte Independence, Bucks and PF in the last 12 months just to name a few

**Guest** · 12-23-2021, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

You are ill informed. FCV has beaten Connecticut FC, Charlotte Independence, Bucks and PF in the last 12 months just to name a few

At what ages? Cant cite wins from 2019-2020 when we are going into 2022.

**Guest** · 12-23-2021, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Guest View Post

Haven't seen this

Then you haven't been paying attention. PDA stunk up their own tournament not all that long ago and if they actually played some non-ECNL teams more regularly it would be even more apparent that there isn't a talent gap outside ECNL. The older the teams get the more they hide from non-ECNL teams.