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I agree and this is so important. They have to be well rounded and it makes more sense to accomplish the harder variations of play at a younger age. Playing “kick and run” (sorry to get people crazy) isn’t the most dynamic way to play when they are 13 and older. It will be required to have a different skill set and ability: possession play. It’s harder to teach it because at that age some of your competitors (now) who were practicing it have mastered it and your kid has not so they have to play catch up. Not much time for that as you get older.

Yup, learning to run some of the more complex passing plays and combinations has to be practiced over and over so they can be played with the speed necessary to be effective at U13+. Not to mention something as basic as building out from the back: how can a defender, or midfielder even that has watched balls get booted past them from the goal all the way to the attacking third most of their lives possibly keep up with kids that have been working through the thirds since U7? So, sorry, but "kick and run" is just one tool that a full sided team can use occasionally given the opportunity, but it won't get you far against a team that plays possession. Gotta learn how to play AND defend that at younger ages or you'll be a little lost come high school. It's really no wonder why full rosters as clubs like MFA and PDA get replaced around that U13 time with kids who have been taught good soccer elsewhere.

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MF Shore just put the ball to their cherry picker forward end of story! Pick Pick Pick

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Haters

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There striker is actually very good technically and seems to play the game well, maybe leave child finger pointing out of it

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When did anyone say that it was their top team? I asked when you played the team that was in that bracket because you said you played all the teams and beat them. Which was a lie.

Asking a top level team when they beat a lower level team will draw the obvious answer that the haven't. Not because they couldn't, but because they haven't played. So you are technically correct but intellectually wrong.
You wouldn't ask The New York Giants why they play in the NFL when they haven't beat all of the local high school football teams.

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Asking a top level team when they beat a lower level team will draw the obvious answer that the haven't. Not because they couldn't, but because they haven't played. So you are technically correct but intellectually wrong.
You wouldn't ask The New York Giants why they play in the NFL when they haven't beat all of the local high school football teams.[/QUOTE

no. You simply don’t state you’ve played them all and won when you actually have not. If someone asks for clarification because a factually wrong statement was made I don’t think that is intellectually wrong. Giants might be better off playing some high school ball at this point.

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Yup, learning to run some of the more complex passing plays and combinations has to be practiced over and over so they can be played with the speed necessary to be effective at U13+. Not to mention something as basic as building out from the back: how can a defender, or midfielder even that has watched balls get booted past them from the goal all the way to the attacking third most of their lives possibly keep up with kids that have been working through the thirds since U7? So, sorry, but "kick and run" is just one tool that a full sided team can use occasionally given the opportunity, but it won't get you far against a team that plays possession. Gotta learn how to play AND defend that at younger ages or you'll be a little lost come high school. It's really no wonder why full rosters as clubs like MFA and PDA get replaced around that U13 time with kids who have been taught good soccer elsewhere.

You have valid points. It is easier to transition from a possession style to a direct style. I think kids get a lot more development from possession style as well. However, just because a team is coached to play direct doesn't mean that the individuals don't have the skills to play possession. Maybe some will struggle with the transition, but definitely not all will. Some will do just fine. This thread makes it seem as if kids in a direct style system are doomed for their entire future. Ease up on the hyperbole.

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MF Shore just put the ball to their cherry picker forward end of story! Pick Pick Pick

Likely a parent on mf, who else would know the players style? Upset cause your kid not scoring all the goals? Not getting the field time? Not getting the free kicks, pks, corners?

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Yup, learning to run some of the more complex passing plays and combinations has to be practiced over and over so they can be played with the speed necessary to be effective at U13+. Not to mention something as basic as building out from the back: how can a defender, or midfielder even that has watched balls get booted past them from the goal all the way to the attacking third most of their lives possibly keep up with kids that have been working through the thirds since U7? So, sorry, but "kick and run" is just one tool that a full sided team can use occasionally given the opportunity, but it won't get you far against a team that plays possession. Gotta learn how to play AND defend that at younger ages or you'll be a little lost come high school. It's really no wonder why full rosters as clubs like MFA and PDA get replaced around that U13 time with kids who have been taught good soccer elsewhere.

Agree except for the PDA point… or the 2011’s anyhow. Go watch them play at 10 years old. They play possession and build out of the back as well as you’ll see. Yes there are too many 2-3 yard passes but they’re looking the right way.

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Agree except for the PDA point… or the 2011’s anyhow. Go watch them play at 10 years old. They play possession and build out of the back as well as you’ll see. Yes there are too many 2-3 yard passes but they’re looking the right way.

I agree. The PDA 2011’s are doing a good job of incorporating both styles of play and not afraid to play challenging teams and lose.

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There striker is actually very good technically and seems to play the game well, maybe leave child finger pointing out of it

Being a PDA parent I have to agree that their striker is very good and it's only a matter of time before she is at PDA you will see.

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A PDA parent????

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Being a PDA parent I have to agree that their striker is very good and it's only a matter of time before she is at PDA you will see.

Looks like PDA is not developing only recruiting.

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Looks like PDA is not developing only recruiting.

I would guess that was her parent making himself feel good and not a PDA parent.

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Agree except for the PDA point… or the 2011’s anyhow. Go watch them play at 10 years old. They play possession and build out of the back as well as you’ll see. Yes there are too many 2-3 yard passes but they’re looking the right way.

Yes, the 2011 team does stand out as an exception. BUT. Several of the top girls came in just this year from other clubs where they developed. So, I guess in this case the recruiting started earlier than U13.