D1 goalkeepers

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In NJ, play at PDA or MFA almost all of their keepers including kids not getting major minutes get D1 offers. Also look at how many keepers they are starting to put into the pros. Disclaimer: The NCAA screwed a lot of kids with it's decision to grant a universal extra year of eligibility. The class of 2025 will be the first class that is not impacted at all. The result is less spots and less money and that trickles down to D3. Nice to have height, but the best attribute a keeper can have IMO is mental makeup followed by the ability to decided when to come for the ball and when not to. After that everyone loves kids who can block all types of shots. Being a plus athlete sure does not hurt.

That your perspective about giving an extra year. My daughter potentially can get that extra year because of the Covid season. Glad to read TS parent who has no empathy for those players effected last year. Just to let you know that coaches will not automatically let a 5th year player stay with the team on scholarship unless as compared to your daughter that player is a better choice, then they will extend them the 5th year.

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have no problem with giving kids who had no season or a highly impacted season an extra year of eligibility. I am happy your daughter got that. What I said was the NCAA made it universal which gave every kid an extra year, even though the great majority had full seasons.

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That your perspective about giving an extra year. My daughter potentially can get that extra year because of the Covid season. Glad to read TS parent who has no empathy for those players effected last year. Just to let you know that coaches will not automatically let a 5th year player stay with the team on scholarship unless as compared to your daughter that player is a better choice, then they will extend them the 5th year.

Staying longer won't work for many players because they were on track to graduate and didn't have plans for grad school there (or elsewhere). However giving them extra time was absolutely the right thing to do. The whiny poster is overstating the impact. if your player is targeting the right programs and has the skills they will find a home.

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Staying longer won't work for many players because they were on track to graduate and didn't have plans for grad school there (or elsewhere). However giving them extra time was absolutely the right thing to do. The whiny poster is overstating the impact. if your player is targeting the right programs and has the skills they will find a home.

Exactly. Not all schools have grad schools and/or a grad school that may align with player's undergrad. Also not everyone likes school. Some can not wait to be finished.

i do agree, if you have good skills, you will find a home.

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have no problem with giving kids who had no season or a highly impacted season an extra year of eligibility. I am happy your daughter got that. What I said was the NCAA made it universal which gave every kid an extra year, even though the great majority had full seasons.

Not really full seasons. They divided conferences in many cases. So very few out of conference play and even in conference; played your division several times. Sp if you had weak team in your division, you played them multiple times. If you enjoy the game and the challenge of playing vs a lot of good teams, that did not happen most times.

And even in conference play, some teams opted out; some had numerous rescheduling; the travel restrictions and sometimes one day in and out games (where normally it would be arrival day prior); the crazy winter weather (ice storms and the like) caused cancellations, and more. Last season was a crazy season for everyone. So giving everyone another year was the right thing. Not everyone took it, including those that could. Some were drafted and played spring and went into pros opting out of 5th (or 6th if redshirted) year.

I think a lot will shake out as pick ups from transfer portal will start to decrease as teams this season may have made adjustments with kids coming in and existing talent. There were gaps due to graduation and kids who did not return.

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have no problem with giving kids who had no season or a highly impacted season an extra year of eligibility. I am happy your daughter got that. What I said was the NCAA made it universal which gave every kid an extra year, even though the great majority had full seasons.

Your factually wrong. The great majority did not have full seasons in fact the great majority either had an abbreviated season or a cancelled season altogether. Every player deserves a full season and the NCAA recognizes that Covid had the effect of each player losing a year of playing. All these players have trained very hard and deserve that extra year. How it effects the incoming classes will be dealt with by each school. Those 5th year players that coaches deem as a core player will add to the depth of a team. For those incoming players they will have to prove themselves with these large rosters. At most schools there will be 30 plus players

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Your factually wrong. The great majority did not have full seasons in fact the great majority either had an abbreviated season or a cancelled season altogether. Every player deserves a full season and the NCAA recognizes that Covid had the effect of each player losing a year of playing. All these players have trained very hard and deserve that extra year. How it effects the incoming classes will be dealt with by each school. Those 5th year players that coaches deem as a core player will add to the depth of a team. For those incoming players they will have to prove themselves with these large rosters. At most schools there will be 30 plus players

not the poster but I think you are over-exaggerating how many will take advantage of the 5th year. If you're on track to graduate and didn't have plans to stay longer for grad school you're not staying - even more so if you're paying good $ for it as many student athletes are. It has to make sense both academically and financially for them.

And a coach can do the same thing he can do now if he doesn't want to keep a player - tell them they can stay but won't see any PT/make life generally not fun. It's one thing to keep a 5th year impact player. But a player with less impact will be pushed aside for the new freshmen studs who the coach wants to develop for the long haul

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not the poster but I think you are over-exaggerating how many will take advantage of the 5th year. If you're on track to graduate and didn't have plans to stay longer for grad school you're not staying - even more so if you're paying good $ for it as many student athletes are. It has to make sense both academically and financially for them.

And a coach can do the same thing he can do now if he doesn't want to keep a player - tell them they can stay but won't see any PT/make life generally not fun. It's one thing to keep a 5th year impact player. But a player with less impact will be pushed aside for the new freshmen studs who the coach wants to develop for the long haul

Of course. That is part of the cycle every year. If you are valued, you are getting money.

If you are 5th yr/grad and still playing, you aren't doing it on your dime. And kids can get money more than what was agreed upon if the coaches really like your impact.

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Of course. That is part of the cycle every year. If you are valued, you are getting money.

If you are 5th yr/grad and still playing, you aren't doing it on your dime. And kids can get money more than what was agreed upon if the coaches really like your impact.

Please almost no one gets a full ride to begin with. That's why for many it won't make sense financially unless they weren't ready to graduate (plenty of kids are on the 5 year plan lol) or they are going to grad school there. A good player could get picked up at another program if they're going for grad school there but they probably wouldn't get any money for one year.

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Please almost no one gets a full ride to begin with. That's why for many it won't make sense financially unless they weren't ready to graduate (plenty of kids are on the 5 year plan lol) or they are going to grad school there. A good player could get picked up at another program if they're going for grad school there but they probably wouldn't get any money for one year.

Not true. I am aware of multiple players that went to different programs to complete degrees and/or grad school and getting money. Some are one year players.

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not the poster but I think you are over-exaggerating how many will take advantage of the 5th year. If you're on track to graduate and didn't have plans to stay longer for grad school you're not staying - even more so if you're paying good $ for it as many student athletes are. It has to make sense both academically and financially for them.

And a coach can do the same thing he can do now if he doesn't want to keep a player - tell them they can stay but won't see any PT/make life generally not fun. It's one thing to keep a 5th year impact player. But a player with less impact will be pushed aside for the new freshmen studs who the coach wants to develop for the long haul

I am the OP, my point is because of Covid players deemed worthy will now be able to have an extra year of eligibility at the coaches discretion. Those who have taken advantage are 5th year Seniors and Seniors this season who the coaches want to continue for another year. Many factors involved but mostly athletic dollars. Your term “freshman stud” shows you have no player currently playing in college. These freshman are not moving to U19, it’s college soccer with seasoned veteran players who are both physical and mentally tougher than the vast majority of freshman. They are not studs just inexperienced freshman. Depending on the college, league, team, the vast majority of freshman’s first year is a learning experience that’s why the 5th year players are so important to the program. College coaches are there to win not develop players. If they are developing a player in college then they picked the wrong player. It’s about winning not developing for the long haul. This is not club soccer. Just win.

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Not true. I am aware of multiple players that went to different programs to complete degrees and/or grad school and getting money. Some are one year players.

versus all the possible players out there? Still pretty small.

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versus all the possible players out there? Still pretty small.

It is a small amount of Graduate players who move for 1 year to programs that want there experience and also to add depth to the roster.

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I am the OP, my point is because of Covid players deemed worthy will now be able to have an extra year of eligibility at the coaches discretion. Those who have taken advantage are 5th year Seniors and Seniors this season who the coaches want to continue for another year. Many factors involved but mostly athletic dollars. Your term “freshman stud” shows you have no player currently playing in college. These freshman are not moving to U19, it’s college soccer with seasoned veteran players who are both physical and mentally tougher than the vast majority of freshman. They are not studs just inexperienced freshman. Depending on the college, league, team, the vast majority of freshman’s first year is a learning experience that’s why the 5th year players are so important to the program. College coaches are there to win not develop players. If they are developing a player in college then they picked the wrong player. It’s about winning not developing for the long haul. This is not club soccer. Just win.

Exactly.

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I am the OP, my point is because of Covid players deemed worthy will now be able to have an extra year of eligibility at the coaches discretion. Those who have taken advantage are 5th year Seniors and Seniors this season who the coaches want to continue for another year. Many factors involved but mostly athletic dollars. Your term “freshman stud” shows you have no player currently playing in college. These freshman are not moving to U19, it’s college soccer with seasoned veteran players who are both physical and mentally tougher than the vast majority of freshman. They are not studs just inexperienced freshman. Depending on the college, league, team, the vast majority of freshman’s first year is a learning experience that’s why the 5th year players are so important to the program. College coaches are there to win not develop players. If they are developing a player in college then they picked the wrong player. It’s about winning not developing for the long haul. This is not club soccer. Just win.

Some are 6th yr players if either redshirted or received an injury yr back. And depending on the program, they are pro level. They will use most freshmen studs as practice cones. I agree with you, inexperienced freshmen.

The more time you have in a system, the more valuable you become, provided you are worth the investment.