How does all-state work this year with so many teams playing out of division?
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Why would there be All-State with Regional pool play and most teams playing 5 or 6 other teams, some from lower divisions? IMO, All-State is a victim of the pandemic and can't reasonably be picked since most coaches will not have seen 75% of the other teams play. Let's just be glad we might get through the playoffs.
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I hear nominations were due on Friday (10/30). With regional play, how are they voted upon? Purely stat driven?
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What is the point of having these awards this year? No way of getting this right. Typically give out about 44 awards per division (11 first team, 11 second team, and 22 honorable mention).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat is the point of having these awards this year? No way of getting this right. Typically give out about 44 awards per division (11 first team, 11 second team, and 22 honorable mention).
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Given how the season has played out and how difficult it would be to pick this year, give me one reason to have All-State that is not self-serving?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGiven how the season has played out and how difficult it would be to pick this year, give me one reason to have All-State that is not self-serving?
coaches make a list, all of the coaches bring their lists to one place and they talk about it
then they select the first team
they talk some more and then they select the 2nd team
then they pick HM
they have done it that way for years, so not hard at all
pandemic or not the good players are still the good players
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postits not difficult at all, actually its the same as in the past
coaches make a list, all of the coaches bring their lists to one place and they talk about it
then they select the first team
they talk some more and then they select the 2nd team
then they pick HM
they have done it that way for years, so not hard at all
pandemic or not the good players are still the good players
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Again, why do we need to do All-State this year? Not hearing a reason.
It's not about the process. It's about whether or not it makes sense go through a process that does not allow for a thoughtful and thorough evaluation of the players outside of the their own coach and by a majority of the other coaches in the division. I've given my reason not to have it but I have not heard a strong reason to have it this year. Let's hear it.
"Oh, Coach Smith selected Suzy Soccer for All-State and she was on the All-State team last year so she must be good and deserve to be on it this year. I'll vote for her."
I guess the coaches could just barter for selections. You give me one of yours and I will give you one of mine.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe only time the coaches talk is if there is a tie and a discussion takes place as whether to drop/raise those players between the teams. So I'm assuming that its all based on stats for forwards/attacking mids/goalies and then whatever the coach writes about the other players.
love people who prophesize yet have no idea what really goes on
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgain, why do we need to do All-State this year? Not hearing a reason.
It's not about the process. It's about whether or not it makes sense go through a process that does not allow for a thoughtful and thorough evaluation of the players outside of the their own coach and by a majority of the other coaches in the division. I've given my reason not to have it but I have not heard a strong reason to have it this year. Let's hear it.
"Oh, Coach Smith selected Suzy Soccer for All-State and she was on the All-State team last year so she must be good and deserve to be on it this year. I'll vote for her."
I guess the coaches could just barter for selections. You give me one of yours and I will give you one of mine.
if suzie soccer was on the team last year ,she was probably pretty good ,and no reason to think she isnt just as good a year older
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The process has never been fool proof and mistakes are going to be made. But the kids deserving to be put into consideration should have the opportunity to earn the accolades. This year should be no different than any other.
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