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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    As it continues the results that matter are college commits. There, you'll see some disappointing results. Having a patch on your sleeve might get you looks but it won't get you recruited.
    I had that general opinion. It can get you looks and then it's up to you.

    However, I also know of a very good HS player who wasn't getting any of the right attention and after one showcase, got recruited to a D1 school. It was actually a little surprising to me.

    The informal contacts made so far and communications we have received has led us to believe these would not have been without such a move.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I had that general opinion. It can get you looks and then it's up to you.

      However, I also know of a very good HS player who wasn't getting any of the right attention and after one showcase, got recruited to a D1 school. It was actually a little surprising to me.

      The informal contacts made so far and communications we have received has led us to believe these would not have been without such a move.
      Sure it can happen. But, what level program was it? Not all D1 is good soccer. If they were recruited late most likely they're getting no $. Is that player playing in college? Impact player? Players can get themselves in front of coaches at ID events regardless of league. That's where most of the recruiting happens, not at one showcase. GDA may open a few more doors but after that it's up to the player. Coaches know GDA isn't consistently good or that all the better players are in it.

      NLI lists will come out soon. SUSC didn't even list their boy's commitments last year on the USDA site. As I recall they don't show anything on their website either. Granted for GDA the commits are just the first year. Where they go moving forward is what matters, not just with placements but success once in college.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Sure it can happen. But, what level program was it? Not all D1 is good soccer. If they were recruited late most likely they're getting no $. Is that player playing in college? Impact player? Players can get themselves in front of coaches at ID events regardless of league. That's where most of the recruiting happens, not at one showcase. GDA may open a few more doors but after that it's up to the player. Coaches know GDA isn't consistently good or that all the better players are in it.

        NLI lists will come out soon. SUSC didn't even list their boy's commitments last year on the USDA site. As I recall they don't show anything on their website either. Granted for GDA the commits are just the first year. Where they go moving forward is what matters, not just with placements but success once in college.
        Doesn't matter what will be said, someone will poke holes in it. Bottom line an all-state player with no interest will be going to an ACC school and thrilled. And, it did come from a single showcase (which I rare as I mentioned).

        Those who we have spoken to are encouraging us to go down the path she has started.

        Funny, I tell my daughter all the time that anonymous people keep saying she should give it up and go play HS, but she won't listen to me...

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          I think people forget that players/families are allowed to play for whatever level they want and that's totally their opinion. Everyone values their own dollars in their own way. We have one girl on our team who has said she has no desire to play in college. She likes the game, her HS stinks, and likes her teammates.

          -05 Dad

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            DA is about player development. Not team wins. We _should_ be able to agree on that. That being said, there are not enough players in NH to support relevant DA teams consistently for whatever reason. Too many players leave the state. Too small a population. Too many leagues. Too many parents care about education. Too little or much of whatever!?! The reasoning can be debated on the side. The lack of players is basic math and statistics. The bottom line is NH does not have enough talent gathered in a location to consistently train/compete with other areas of the country with larger populations.

            Back to the player development part. Outside of the USNT, everyone on a team is literally a practice cone for the top few players. These top players are the ones that move up to the next team, division, league, etc. Those are the talents and difference makers DA works to develop in any given season (yes there are exceptions). Even when NH has a difference maker at the DA level, it does not have enough 'cones' to train them. The difference makers leave to find their peers. Outside of the NT, it is literally all rec. here, there and everywhere else.

            To the people who are trashing the results of the players efforts on the field in a pathetic attempt to make their point, take a look in the mirror and perhaps re-evaluate your priorities.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think people forget that players/families are allowed to play for whatever level they want and that's totally their opinion. Everyone values their own dollars in their own way. We have one girl on our team who has said she has no desire to play in college. She likes the game, her HS stinks, and likes her teammates.

              -05 Dad
              "I think people forget that players/families are allowed to play for whatever level they want and that's totally their opinion. Everyone values their own dollars in their own way."

              This is the first logical statement I've read on this thread. Thank you.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I think people forget that players/families are allowed to play for whatever level they want and that's totally their opinion. Everyone values their own dollars in their own way. We have one girl on our team who has said she has no desire to play in college. She likes the game, her HS stinks, and likes her teammates.

                -05 Dad
                And of course that's fine and what was mentioned earlier. People will do what's best for them, as well they should. You look at the choices and pick the one you want.

                One of the things I was interested in discussing (on this site dedicated to discussing soccer, not only as it relates to individual children) is my feeling, as previously stated, that the SUSC move to GDA doesn't make sense from my perspective. I've heard over and over that results don't matter, but good results are a by product of effective training aimed at the right players. You can't tell me that you have a group of girls whose skill level puts them in the highest level of play in youth soccer AND that the coaching they receive is top notch, yet they don't often win. If the top 2 pieces were in line, winning would happen regardless. You don't need to be "focused on results" to see that.

                Again, I couldn't care less what your daughter does. Not every statement is personal or applicable to everyone. I not anti-GDA. I just think it was a foolish move for SU. Not saying individuals should not have picked it. What are you going to do? You pick from the options presented, I get it.

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                  Agree with your comments.

                  And, I've said this in the past. While of course I would like to see wins and I know my daughter does, being competitive is more important.

                  Does it matter that they lost a game 2-1 because we made a silly mistake playing out of the back and turned it over? That we committed a poor clearance and an OG? Not really. People will look at a score and think "BWAHA, another loss". I just don't look at it that way.

                  Were the games close? Competitive? Over time, were there less of those mistakes? That means more than a W/L here.

                  More than once, my daughter has connected with an opponent after battling feverishly all game. They hugged it out and even heard her thank the other player for making her better. The feeling was mutual. If they could've traded jerseys, they likely would've. Did they win those games? I can't recall, but it didn't matter. The competition is what they should be looking for. An opponent who will make them raise their game.

                  To me, that is what youth competition and striving to be at a higher-level is about. Not mocking someone for an OG.

                  All that being said, part of development is learning how to win, how to come back and how to play with a lead. One downfall I see is, and this is reality, I don't see a lot of game-changing talent who can drag a team back into the game on their own. So, when an 0-1 game becomes an 0-2, 0-3 game, they know it's a lost cause and it can get ugly quick. That, to me, is what separates the OK teams from the great teams.

                  -05 Dad

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                    Lol....is 05 dad a disguise for an 04 dad? What the what?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Agree with your comments.

                      And, I've said this in the past. While of course I would like to see wins and I know my daughter does, being competitive is more important.

                      Does it matter that they lost a game 2-1 because we made a silly mistake playing out of the back and turned it over? That we committed a poor clearance and an OG? Not really. People will look at a score and think "BWAHA, another loss". I just don't look at it that way.

                      Were the games close? Competitive? Over time, were there less of those mistakes? That means more than a W/L here.

                      More than once, my daughter has connected with an opponent after battling feverishly all game. They hugged it out and even heard her thank the other player for making her better. The feeling was mutual. If they could've traded jerseys, they likely would've. Did they win those games? I can't recall, but it didn't matter. The competition is what they should be looking for. An opponent who will make them raise their game.

                      To me, that is what youth competition and striving to be at a higher-level is about. Not mocking someone for an OG.

                      All that being said, part of development is learning how to win, how to come back and how to play with a lead. One downfall I see is, and this is reality, I don't see a lot of game-changing talent who can drag a team back into the game on their own. So, when an 0-1 game becomes an 0-2, 0-3 game, they know it's a lost cause and it can get ugly quick. That, to me, is what separates the OK teams from the great teams.

                      -05 Dad
                      And what you just described here is the same thing I saw at my daughters HS game last night. Respect for the opponent, playing hard, raising your game... etc... all of it. That's not just a DA thing or a HS thing - its a soccer thing.

                      This is what the game is about. How you go about it is your business... club, HS, does not matter. Its called the beautiful game for a reason.

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                        Still going well for the SUSC girls? Not so good...

                        This is a big weekend for the U16, & U17 teams... if they lose this weekend they are already essentially eliminated from playoffs with no wins headed into November and the Spring schedule being more difficult than the fall.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Still going well for the SUSC girls? Not so good...

                          This is a big weekend for the U16, & U17 teams... if they lose this weekend they are already essentially eliminated from playoffs with no wins headed into November and the Spring schedule being more difficult than the fall.

                          Explain how those two clubs would be eliminated when they've played about 12% of their games so far.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Still going well for the SUSC girls? Not so good...

                            This is a big weekend for the U16, & U17 teams... if they lose this weekend they are already essentially eliminated from playoffs with no wins headed into November and the Spring schedule being more difficult than the fall.
                            Who says they are big games? Spring is a completely different deal than fall. One really has nothing to do with the other.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Who says they are big games? Spring is a completely different deal than fall. One really has nothing to do with the other.
                              Last year the SUSC DA U16 & U15 teams were around .500 in the fall season and the spring schedule was harder with the addition of plyers who were not rostered in the fall.

                              The SUSC DA teams were under .500 for the spring and did not make playoffs. If they can't get some wins soon - this will be the worst DA club in their division / league.

                              Play and program is going backwards - not forwards.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Last year the SUSC DA U16 & U15 teams were around .500 in the fall season and the spring schedule was harder with the addition of plyers who were not rostered in the fall.

                                The SUSC DA teams were under .500 for the spring and did not make playoffs. If they can't get some wins soon - this will be the worst DA club in their division / league.

                                Play and program is going backwards - not forwards.
                                Both the U16 & U17 SUSC teams are also adding players, so that would make them stronger as well.

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