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Repeat after me: waivers do not allow a player to play HS and DA AT THE SAME TIME. Say it again. Say it over and over until you finally get it. That is not what a waiver is.

There is no super special exception that was given to SU to allow them to break the biggest DA rule. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Get it yet?

Unless you are IS himself replying then you don't know either. You have no idea what was the conversation between club, player and parents. We get it your daughter had to choose and another player who the club believes to be more valuable is given the "Seacoast Waiver".

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This is actually laughable. No rules have been changed or bent for SU. And yes they are going to turn a blind eye to a good player who doesn’t want to give up HS yet wants to play DA as well. They were told to train with SU and just play games for their HS. HS coaches can take it or leave it - some are fair and smortmanlike and others are not - will take the good players when they can get them.
Horrible character from all involved.

Yes, this is extremely laughable. No one posting in this thread really knows what's going on, it's all speculation. It's nice to see that your tin foil hat conspiracy has now expanded to the point where not only are the girls breaking DA rules but they are also breaking NHIAA rules too. That should be the easiest one to fix, go to a DA practice and take a pic of the girls practicing and send it to the NHIAA. And then the schools involved will get their wins erased.

It's a joke that you are so quick to judge other people's character when you have no idea what's going on.

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Yes, this is extremely laughable. No one posting in this thread really knows what's going on, it's all speculation. It's nice to see that your tin foil hat conspiracy has now expanded to the point where not only are the girls breaking DA rules but they are also breaking NHIAA rules too. That should be the easiest one to fix, go to a DA practice and take a pic of the girls practicing and send it to the NHIAA. And then the schools involved will get their wins erased.

It's a joke that you are so quick to judge other people's character when you have no idea what's going on.

Why so sensitive? The facts are rules are being broken. Period. If Seacoast told some players they could play high school and DA and told others they couldn’t, then rules are being broken and allowing some girls to break them while insisting others follow them, is terrible.

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I think the said player scored a couple of goals in the high school game today.

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Why so sensitive? The facts are rules are being broken. Period. If Seacoast told some players they could play high school and DA and told others they couldn’t, then rules are being broken and allowing some girls to break them while insisting others follow them, is terrible.

I have said it several times. The only reason someone would defend what SU is is doing right now is if he had a vested interest. I'm guessing this is mom or dad defending this. Given his blatant challenge to go take pics of the girl at DA practice and show them to NHIAA, I suspect he's aware they're not breaking HS rules (she's probably attending HS practices), and that SU has told him they'll look the other way. DA hasn't given some special exception to SU, but he knows DA isn't going to do anything. He can break the rules, flaunt it, and get away with it.

Dad, your daughter has talent, no doubt. It seems you care less about her character than you do about her soccer ability and that's on you. With a role model like you, it's no wonder she thinks this is okay.

Sad.

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Why so sensitive? The facts are rules are being broken. Period. If Seacoast told some players they could play high school and DA and told others they couldn’t, then rules are being broken and allowing some girls to break them while insisting others follow them, is terrible.

With all the outrage, it sounds like you've never run across a situation like this in your entire life. Most people learn this lesson pretty early on, about high school age, same as these players. Rules rarely apply to every single person, with no exceptions at all, or without being broken by someone who gets away with it. I saw someone the other day parking in a disabled parking spot. They looked perfectly able to me and didn't have a placard hanging on their mirror, but who knows, perhaps they needed the spot. Instead of getting all upset that I followed the rules and had to park much further away, I went about my business knowing that at least I would never take a spot away from someone that needed it. Hope you're teaching your kid to be proud that she made a decision and followed the rules, rather than griping to her about the ones who got an exception, or are getting away with breaking them.

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With all the outrage, it sounds like you've never run across a situation like this in your entire life. Most people learn this lesson pretty early on, about high school age, same as these players. Rules rarely apply to every single person, with no exceptions at all, or without being broken by someone who gets away with it. I saw someone the other day parking in a disabled parking spot. They looked perfectly able to me and didn't have a placard hanging on their mirror, but who knows, perhaps they needed the spot. Instead of getting all upset that I followed the rules and had to park much further away, I went about my business knowing that at least I would never take a spot away from someone that needed it. Hope you're teaching your kid to be proud that she made a decision and followed the rules, rather than griping to her about the ones who got an exception, or are getting away with breaking them.

The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive you know. Just because one complains on a soccer message about a complete violation of THE primary (and most controversial) DA rule out of disgust and frustration, does not also mean they are not going about their business with their child as upstanding and mature as possible. This is a soccer message board and it seems to me a few select few keep jumping in trying to shut down the discussion if this, and my assumption (there’s that nasty word again), is that these people are Club or DA shills, or worse, parents of the kids breaking the rules.

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I have said it several times. The only reason someone would defend what SU is is doing right now is if he had a vested interest. I'm guessing this is mom or dad defending this. Given his blatant challenge to go take pics of the girl at DA practice and show them to NHIAA, I suspect he's aware they're not breaking HS rules (she's probably attending HS practices), and that SU has told him they'll look the other way. DA hasn't given some special exception to SU, but he knows DA isn't going to do anything. He can break the rules, flaunt it, and get away with it.

Dad, your daughter has talent, no doubt. It seems you care less about her character than you do about her soccer ability and that's on you. With a role model like you, it's no wonder she thinks this is okay.

Sad.

LOL, I don't have a vested interest in this or inside information. I don't know the girls are going to their high school practices, I'm just assuming they are because the NHIAA does have strict rules about skipping school activities to participate in club activities. If the girls truly are going to DA practices that is wrong and I feel bad for their teammates who will ultimately have to pay the penalty.

As far as I can tell, the only one with a vested interest is the dad who wanted his daughter to play High School and DA at the same time and was told no. Now other that he's found out the Seacoast is allowing others to do the same thing he is upset that girls are "breaking" the PRIMARY rule of DA even though he asked if it was ok if his kid could break the same rule.

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LOL, I don't have a vested interest in this or inside information. I don't know the girls are going to their high school practices, I'm just assuming they are because the NHIAA does have strict rules about skipping school activities to participate in club activities. If the girls truly are going to DA practices that is wrong and I feel bad for their teammates who will ultimately have to pay the penalty.

As far as I can tell, the only one with a vested interest is the dad who wanted his daughter to play High School and DA at the same time and was told no. Now other that he's found out the Seacoast is allowing others to do the same thing he is upset that girls are "breaking" the PRIMARY rule of DA even though he asked if it was ok if his kid could break the same rule.

It could be as simple as this... SU needed to allow for a few players on u17 team to have “waivers” and still play for them in the Fall in order to actually have a team to compete. Maybe the u15 group did not have that problem, hence the firm NO for u15 dad’s daughter. Before u15 dad flips out, it stinks. We get it. It isn’t “fair”. We know. And whether it’s you (or someone else), please don’t feel the need to reiterate ALL the DA rules for us dummies who you claim cannot comprehend the specific rules involved. Lol. We get it. We are just explaining to you how sometimes rules are broken, mishandled, reconsidered, etc.

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I have said it several times. The only reason someone would defend what SU is is doing right now is if he had a vested interest. I'm guessing this is mom or dad defending this. Given his blatant challenge to go take pics of the girl at DA practice and show them to NHIAA, I suspect he's aware they're not breaking HS rules (she's probably attending HS practices), and that SU has told him they'll look the other way. DA hasn't given some special exception to SU, but he knows DA isn't going to do anything. He can break the rules, flaunt it, and get away with it.

Dad, your daughter has talent, no doubt. It seems you care less about her character than you do about her soccer ability and that's on you. With a role model like you, it's no wonder she thinks this is okay.

Sad.

If it’s the same girl that I think it is, she’s just a standard above average player. Not to be rude, I’m just saying that this is being blown way out of proportion here for a mid tier player. You’d think she was a national team candidate with all the chatter here.

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I have said it several times. The only reason someone would defend what SU is is doing right now is if he had a vested interest. I'm guessing this is mom or dad defending this. Given his blatant challenge to go take pics of the girl at DA practice and show them to NHIAA, I suspect he's aware they're not breaking HS rules (she's probably attending HS practices), and that SU has told him they'll look the other way. DA hasn't given some special exception to SU, but he knows DA isn't going to do anything. He can break the rules, flaunt it, and get away with it.

Dad, your daughter has talent, no doubt. It seems you care less about her character than you do about her soccer ability and that's on you. With a role model like you, it's no wonder she thinks this is okay.

Sad.

What is sad is you. Go back to your second sentence. It should read, 'the only reason someone would get upset at what SU is doing right now is if their daughter was perceived as not making the team or losing minutes because of this other girl'.

Get over your bitterness dad. It's brutally ugly and going to drive your daughter away from the game (and harm your family psychologically as there is no way you are not carrying this anger around your home). It's SU's and DA's rules. They make them. They can brake them. You really need to step back and realize why you are so angry.

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This cheating topic has gone on for far too long. There aren't any new opinions being offered here. It's really simple to understand what's going on and at this point the horse is very dead.

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This cheating topic has gone on for far too long. There aren't any new opinions being offered here. It's really simple to understand what's going on and at this point the horse is very dead.

And the club refuses to remove the corpse. The chatter will continue as long as the player continues to violate the rules. If the club refuses to do anything then they deserve whatever flack they receive.

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The club could have easily avoided the issue by telling families "sure, you can play HS but without an official waiver. We'll put you on the roster once HS is done." DA has this very large loophole and clubs used it frequently. But if they're desperate to fill a roster or keep certain players for the fall season (because they can't change games, they have to play) then they will look the other way. The first option isn't optimal but within the rules. The 2nd is not

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This cheating topic has gone on for far too long. There aren't any new opinions being offered here. It's really simple to understand what's going on and at this point the horse is very dead.

I find the desperation to shut down the topic interesting. Easiest way to shut it down would be for SU or DA to put a stop to the behavior.