NH High School

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wow! It sounds like a seacoast person got triggered and provided a weak at best response. Haha

ha ha.

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I heard from the Grapevine that the Bedford captain and 2 other players were suspended for vandalizing a car.

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Seacoast does a good, but not great job. But there are no alternatives. That being said there are plenty of worse things you can blow money on for your kids, iPad games, upgrading cell phones, commercialism crap, etc.
We see our child getting a lot better, playing with kids from town is a huge step down. I attribute it to Seacoast as I know very little about the sport. I'm sure there are bad coaches there and some mediocre ones, but the mediocre ones will at least be on par with the average HS coach. If you get a good coach and Seacoast has many it is much better. If it gets my kid a scholarship or into a better school, great, if not we still have had a great time supporting our kids and won't look back with regret as long our kid continues to love playing

This. Honest and without all the BS of the anti academy army. Its not for everyone, but its the best alternative in NH.

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You must have a nice pipeline from your backyard to college soccer programs. Lets us in on your big secret LOL.

Lets see if you can refute this, because you cant

The number of American players playing in the top leagues in the world has NEVER been higher. US players are getting big contracts, lots of playing time and accolades all over the world. Every one of the current crop of US nationals, all the US born players in the MLS, all the rising Division 1 college soccer programs are full of academy players. To suggest there were more high-quality US players before "pay to play" is flat out false.

Pay to play is awful - except for every other option that has ever existed in US Soccer. Sorry, every other option other than your backyard pipeline to Barca.

Expecting Seacoast or anyone else to take average players from a small state with no diversity and turn out professional or even D1 players at a high level is foolish and in no way a knock on the program they run. They regularly go to MA, NY, NJ and beat so called "better clubs", and have a fantastic track record for the development of college players. If you choose to stick your head in the sand, that changes nothing.

Go back to training your son who is on his way to being the next Messi - and let the rest of us enjoy a place where kids have fun, get fit and play a game they love.

I love guys that think they are smart.

Listen genius, no one suggested that US players aren't better. That doesn't make the correlation between pay to play and being better. Some kids are better. Many, many are not and paying and arm and a leg to chase dreams that these clubs sell. There are more opportunities for sure for those that want to pay. That doesn't mean all the best kids can and will. Those that would be better in a different model. Fact is more are playing soccer now and we are a huge country. Athletically we get away with it.

Pay to play has turned into town coaches being hired by the clubs anyway because they get the dollars to bring those kids over. That is not a good model. It is the same coaching they were getting at 10x the price. It is not professional coaching. Most of these so-called professional coaches can't get to half the practices and games because they are required to do so much for peanuts. Pay coaches more money and let them coach and care about their players and you may see a difference. Right now that isn't happening.

And my friend you are the only one who appears to have the next Messi as a kid is you.

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Listen genius, no one suggested that US players aren't better. That doesn't make the correlation between pay to play and being better. Some kids are better. Many, many are not and paying and arm and a leg to chase dreams that these clubs sell. There are more opportunities for sure for those that want to pay. That doesn't mean all the best kids can and will. Those that would be better in a different model. Fact is more are playing soccer now and we are a huge country. Athletically we get away with it.

Thats a LOT of hoops to jump through to get to a non-point. Pay to play and the improvement in quality of coaching has CLEARLY shown it works in turning out a higher quality player on every level. That FACT isnt even remotely in question. Before academies showed up, the US had a few players here and there on an international stage. Now almost every big team in Europe has US players on their first team or in their academy system. This didnt happen by osmosis - it happened because the standards of coaching, training and ability to play better competition all which are direct results of an academy (or pay to play) system.

Pay to play has turned into town coaches being hired by the clubs anyway because they get the dollars to bring those kids over. That is not a good model. It is the same coaching they were getting at 10x the price.

Not sure what sad club you are speaking about, but at reputable academies - that is 100% false. Town teams are coached by Dads. SU head coaches are generally D1 College players who are now coaching kids. Nothing at all like what you described. But you already know that.

The top coaches at academies are far superior to town coaches, in fact they are far superior to any HS coach in the region. The fact that you dont know that or wont admit that, renders the rest of your rants moot.

Clearly, you have very little experience with what you speak - just spewing nonsense from the peanut gallery. Well done Pal.

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I heard from the Grapevine that the Bedford captain and 2 other players were suspended for vandalizing a car.

That would explain why he was not in the roster last night vs concord

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Thats a LOT of hoops to jump through to get to a non-point. Pay to play and the improvement in quality of coaching has CLEARLY shown it works in turning out a higher quality player on every level. That FACT isnt even remotely in question. Before academies showed up, the US had a few players here and there on an international stage. Now almost every big team in Europe has US players on their first team or in their academy system. This didnt happen by osmosis - it happened because the standards of coaching, training and ability to play better competition all which are direct results of an academy (or pay to play) system.



Not sure what sad club you are speaking about, but at reputable academies - that is 100% false. Town teams are coached by Dads. SU head coaches are generally D1 College players who are now coaching kids. Nothing at all like what you described. But you already know that.

The top coaches at academies are far superior to town coaches, in fact they are far superior to any HS coach in the region. The fact that you dont know that or wont admit that, renders the rest of your rants moot.

Clearly, you have very little experience with what you speak - just spewing nonsense from the peanut gallery. Well done Pal.

Almost all of this in incorrect. Head in the sand dad bc someone at an academy said his kid was good. Laughable. Can’t debate a fool like that. No I am not the poster you are ranting on. If you think all the academy coaches are top level and better than other regular coaches you are sadly mistaken. Not to mention the D1 player as a coach argument. Nice try though.

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2 things can be true at the same time:

-Seacoast and other clubs are the best option local kids have at getting better. Those top clubs have the best players around and send kids to college. Some of those boys and girls go pro and play in Europe.
-pay to play model sucks. It is holding the US back globally. It misses excellent young athletes whose families can’t afford club. The entire industry is built for the goal of profit rather than the goal of developing the best players. Given the choice between 2 8 y.o. players, the club will choose the one that can pay tuition for the next 10 years rather than the kid who plays best (sometimes that’s the same kid - not saying rich kids can’t be athletic). Given the size of our population, we are producing a disproportionate amount of world class soccer players.

both things are true.

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2 things can be true at the same time:

-Seacoast and other clubs are the best option local kids have at getting better. Those top clubs have the best players around and send kids to college. Some of those boys and girls go pro and play in Europe.
-pay to play model sucks. It is holding the US back globally. It misses excellent young athletes whose families can’t afford club. The entire industry is built for the goal of profit rather than the goal of developing the best players. Given the choice between 2 8 y.o. players, the club will choose the one that can pay tuition for the next 10 years rather than the kid who plays best (sometimes that’s the same kid - not saying rich kids can’t be athletic). Given the size of our population, we are producing a disproportionate amount of world class soccer players.

both things are true.

Agreed - that is what I said early on. Pay to play is the worst system, aside from all the others. People act like academies in Europe are SA are some panacea, but they are even worse at providing soccer to the masses. If you live in a country with a free-to-play only system and want high level coaching with organized training and games, but you’re not good enough to make a pro academy, then you’re out of luck. No one has any way to know how many players are missed in Europe - as they are either elite at age 8 or out of luck.

At least in the US, we have options to play soccer and develop as young adults. Being a pro isnt the only goal, so I may argue that the US system is superior in may ways. Pay to play is flawed but works by any measure. Again just look at the number of successful American players in college, MLS and Europe.

If you don’t want to pay for soccer, no problem. Nobody is stopping you from calling up some friends to go kick a ball around for free. Also, if you want to upgrade with some Dad coaching and matches with teenage referees, there are affordable options available too. If your preference is for higher-level coaching and training with stiffer competition, then the cost will go up. If you dont like it, dont participate in an academy team.

Dont like academies - dont join them. Simple as.

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2 things can be true at the same time:

-Seacoast and other clubs are the best option local kids have at getting better. Those top clubs have the best players around and send kids to college. Some of those boys and girls go pro and play in Europe.
-pay to play model sucks. It is holding the US back globally. It misses excellent young athletes whose families can’t afford club. The entire industry is built for the goal of profit rather than the goal of developing the best players. Given the choice between 2 8 y.o. players, the club will choose the one that can pay tuition for the next 10 years rather than the kid who plays best (sometimes that’s the same kid - not saying rich kids can’t be athletic). Given the size of our population, we are producing a disproportionate amount of world class soccer players.

both things are true.

and all clubs are in it for themselves all clubs recruit players and grab for talent all clubs want you to think winning is the only thing all clubs will sell out to a bigger owner. Look at it as the business it is and you will make better decisions for your kid.

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Agreed - that is what I said early on. Pay to play is the worst system, aside from all the others. People act like academies in Europe are SA are some panacea, but they are even worse at providing soccer to the masses. If you live in a country with a free-to-play only system and want high level coaching with organized training and games, but you’re not good enough to make a pro academy, then you’re out of luck. No one has any way to know how many players are missed in Europe - as they are either elite at age 8 or out of luck.

At least in the US, we have options to play soccer and develop as young adults. Being a pro isnt the only goal, so I may argue that the US system is superior in may ways. Pay to play is flawed but works by any measure. Again just look at the number of successful American players in college, MLS and Europe.

If you don’t want to pay for soccer, no problem. Nobody is stopping you from calling up some friends to go kick a ball around for free. Also, if you want to upgrade with some Dad coaching and matches with teenage referees, there are affordable options available too. If your preference is for higher-level coaching and training with stiffer competition, then the cost will go up. If you dont like it, dont participate in an academy team.

Dont like academies - dont join them. Simple as.

Any system can be called superior. It all depends on what metric you are measuring.

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That would explain why he was not in the roster last night vs concord

From the sounds of the groups' chatters, Bedford boys soccer is about to implode and mostly due to the Captain's selfishness and the arrogant father who is the assistant coach.

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From the sounds of the groups' chatters, Bedford boys soccer is about to implode and mostly due to the Captain's selfishness and the arrogant father who is the assistant coach.

I won't call you a liar because I am removed from them currently. However, I would be overwhelmingly surprised if this were true. I've had the Captain to my house before, several times, and he's a really good kid and very respectful. I've known the dad in passing for many, many years and never experienced that. So, again, I could very well be wrong, but cannot believe this to be true.

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I won't call you a liar because I am removed from them currently. However, I would be overwhelmingly surprised if this were true. I've had the Captain to my house before, several times, and he's a really good kid and very respectful. I've known the dad in passing for many, many years and never experienced that. So, again, I could very well be wrong, but cannot believe this to be true.

Just wait and see......

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Just wait and see......

You say have info, I am surprised, but it won't be the first or last time today I'll be wrong if that's the case. Feel free to gloat if/when confirmed, until then I'll keep my doubts. It certainly won't be the first time incorrect info is posted on here.