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    #16
    JV at Bow is probably the best girls coach in NH. There are very few who can touch his resume. RG at Hanover is also very good on the boys side. Don’t forget the strength of the club system in the area for some schools either. That is a benefit for any HS Coach. Longevity matters too. There are several coaches who have been at schools for a long time. You have to figure they are doing something right in this day and age to stick around the way some do.

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      #17
      I don't consider longevity that much of a factor. Heck, JA for Manchester West is one of the most accomplished coaches in the history of the state and rare is the person who actually considered him a "great" coach. Just successful.

      Look beyond results, especially in DII. Look at the players, how they play, what they play with, who they play, and their successes from there. I've watched Bow girls play and can't tell what style they play or what they are trying to do beyond score goals.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        I don't consider longevity that much of a factor. Heck, JA for Manchester West is one of the most accomplished coaches in the history of the state and rare is the person who actually considered him a "great" coach. Just successful.

        Look beyond results, especially in DII. Look at the players, how they play, what they play with, who they play, and their successes from there. I've watched Bow girls play and can't tell what style they play or what they are trying to do beyond score goals.
        So because you don’t “see a style of play” - and they “score goals” - win games and are in the semis every season, they aren’t that good… ok got it! I thought the game was you score more goals than your opponent not play a certain style!?!?!

        So let’s use your logic about JA at West… he was not a “great coach” but the Bedford coach is - the Bedford kids carried that program until they built their own school. He had nationally ranked teams there.

        Consistency as a coach and by a program speaks volumes! But apparently “style” matters more - LOL!

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          #19
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          So because you don’t “see a style of play” - and they “score goals” - win games and are in the semis every season, they aren’t that good… ok got it! I thought the game was you score more goals than your opponent not play a certain style!?!?!

          So let’s use your logic about JA at West… he was not a “great coach” but the Bedford coach is - the Bedford kids carried that program until they built their own school. He had nationally ranked teams there.

          Consistency as a coach and by a program speaks volumes! But apparently “style” matters more - LOL!
          Yes Ive watched Bow a lot. It’s not good soccer by any stretch. There two stars can’t even make a top level Seacoast team. It’s just bad

          As for JA-I played for him for four years and won 3 times with him. All we did was scrimmage and run. No complaints as we win but I never learned anything. Give him credit-he knew enough to stay out of the way

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            #20
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            Yes Ive watched Bow a lot. It’s not good soccer by any stretch. There two stars can’t even make a top level Seacoast team. It’s just bad

            As for JA-I played for him for four years and won 3 times with him. All we did was scrimmage and run. No complaints as we win but I never learned anything. Give him credit-he knew enough to stay out of the way
            That's a bit harsh, and you may have inadvertently made the poster's point. While I understand the drop from a good D1 team to a good D2 team is stark, wouldn't the lack of real talent only enhance JV's reputation? I understand the argument of a big fish in a small pond, but as long as we need to consider all the ponds then we need to consider JV as well.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Yes Ive watched Bow a lot. It’s not good soccer by any stretch. There two stars can’t even make a top level Seacoast team. It’s just bad

              As for JA-I played for him for four years and won 3 times with him. All we did was scrimmage and run. No complaints as we win but I never learned anything. Give him credit-he knew enough to stay out of the way
              So titles and wins at Bow don’t matter - despite the fact that they are in the semis or finals nearly every season because the style of play is “not good”. So I guess a “good style” that loses games is your preference?

              That’s the soccer elitism in NH that shows you have no clue. So two girls who “can’t make upper seacoast team” BUT are both going DI for college and are All American status are apparently not good!?!?

              so you want teams to play 350 passes soccer that won’t win games because you have been told that’s “beautiful soccer”. Yet teams like Bow, Exeter, Bedford, Pembroke and Pelham all play the ball long… attack in a more direct style - but they must be garbage because the style is not in line with your soccer elitism. Laughable

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                #22
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                So titles and wins at Bow don’t matter - despite the fact that they are in the semis or finals nearly every season because the style of play is “not good”. So I guess a “good style” that loses games is your preference?

                That’s the soccer elitism in NH that shows you have no clue. So two girls who “can’t make upper seacoast team” BUT are both going DI for college and are All American status are apparently not good!?!?

                so you want teams to play 350 passes soccer that won’t win games because you have been told that’s “beautiful soccer”. Yet teams like Bow, Exeter, Bedford, Pembroke and Pelham all play the ball long… attack in a more direct style - but they must be garbage because the style is not in line with your soccer elitism. Laughable
                Exeter and Bedford girls generally don't play the ball long. They will if the opportunity presents itself, but generally that is not how the play. Don't know about the others as I haven't worked any of the their games.

                Carry on.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  Exeter and Bedford girls generally don't play the ball long. They will if the opportunity presents itself, but generally that is not how the play. Don't know about the others as I haven't worked any of the their games.

                  Carry on.
                  Exeter and Bedford definitely play the ball in the air as well as link passes - the OG poster is right. You are too hung up on style and not the actual play. Bow and Pembroke girls play the ball in the air all of the time as well as hit seams on the ground. What good is a preferred style if you have players who benefit from a more direct style? So are you advocating for making players conform to a system (insert SUSC here) or do you adapt your style to fit the players you have (FC Stars)?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    So titles and wins at Bow don’t matter - despite the fact that they are in the semis or finals nearly every season because the style of play is “not good”. So I guess a “good style” that loses games is your preference?

                    That’s the soccer elitism in NH that shows you have no clue. So two girls who “can’t make upper seacoast team” BUT are both going DI for college and are All American status are apparently not good!?!?

                    so you want teams to play 350 passes soccer that won’t win games because you have been told that’s “beautiful soccer”. Yet teams like Bow, Exeter, Bedford, Pembroke and Pelham all play the ball long… attack in a more direct style - but they must be garbage because the style is not in line with your soccer elitism. Laughable
                    It’s just some middle school coach complaining about the Bow girls kinda a jerk mode calling them out.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Exeter and Bedford definitely play the ball in the air as well as link passes
                      That's exactly what I said:

                      "Exeter and Bedford girls generally don't play the ball long. They will if the opportunity presents itself, but generally that is not how the play"

                      I worked both of their games during the season and watched their final. They WILL play the ball long if the opportunity is there, but they don't look for that. That comes from both teams' CBs understanding of what to play and how. The biggest thing they try to do is keep it, whether it long or short.

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                        #26
                        Anyone who thinks JV at Bow is not a top coach in NH knows nothing about soccer. His program consistently produces college players (all divisions), they are the measuring stick for DII girls programs, and they are a semi finalist every single year. I've seen club coaches take over HS programs and play club style soccer and win 4 games a season because they play a "pretty style" but can't win or score. Most HS teams and players are not able based on technical ability to be short 1 touch players owning possession.

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                          #27
                          OK I admit I was a bit harsh on JV. I only meant to say that longevity, to me, shouldn't be a gating factor. We wouldn't have people talking about TB if that was the case. 'Six-Pack Jack' is an excellent example: Most dominant girls coach in NH soccer history, but nobody would consider him a good coach. DII is hard to guage since the range of talent is so dispersed. Bow is a big fish in a small pond so they will often be met with skepticism. And, sorry, from what I've seen they just aren't that impressive to me.

                          Why haven't they pushed to go into DI (just curious)?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            OK I admit I was a bit harsh on JV. I only meant to say that longevity, to me, shouldn't be a gating factor. We wouldn't have people talking about TB if that was the case. 'Six-Pack Jack' is an excellent example: Most dominant girls coach in NH soccer history, but nobody would consider him a good coach. DII is hard to guage since the range of talent is so dispersed. Bow is a big fish in a small pond so they will often be met with skepticism. And, sorry, from what I've seen they just aren't that impressive to me.

                            Why haven't they pushed to go into DI (just curious)?
                            Its a good question - but answered in an article a few years back by the former AD when he was quoted as saying "at Bow anything less than semifinals and finals in athletics is considered a disappointment."

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Its a good question - but answered in an article a few years back by the former AD when he was quoted as saying "at Bow anything less than semifinals and finals in athletics is considered a disappointment."
                              So they are more concerned with being a big fish in a small pond?

                              That's bad to openly state you are ducking competition.

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                                #30
                                Bow only has like 600 students. A jump to D1 would be massive.

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