NHPSA Classics u-12 Regional finals

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Is this even for real? NHPSA beat Seacoast Brazil twice in State Cup. They beat them 2-0 in the final. Seacoast was overmatched. Nobody Seacoast will add to their pre-academy team will help them beat NHPSA which has recently added 5 top notch players. If the two teams ever meet again, NHPSA will dominate. They will compete with the best of NEP.

They are a very good team and did very well in Region 1.
Beat Maine 8-0
Lost a close one to Virginia 2-1, in the last 10 minutes or so.
Beat Delaware 2-1.
4-3 over NY
And in the final, had that same Virginia team 1-1 at the half, to lose 3-1. NH played without their starting center mid for the championship game. And they came that close.

This is a team to watch.

Let's not get carried away here. The Seacoast team in State Cup is not thier Pre-Academy team. Pre-Academy does not participate in State Cup comptetitions. In general clubs that have Pre-Academy teams are their best team at an age group, NEP, MAPLE, GSYSL are their premier teams but usually do not compare against Pre-Academy.

NHPSA U12 team did great for NH, but becareful when you think they can out play Seacoast, Boston Bolts, or Revs Pre-academy teams.

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Let's not get carried away here. The Seacoast team in State Cup is not thier Pre-Academy team. Pre-Academy does not participate in State Cup comptetitions. In general clubs that have Pre-Academy teams are their best team at an age group, NEP, MAPLE, GSYSL are their premier teams but usually do not compare against Pre-Academy.

Seacoast Brazil which was in State Cup was their best U12 team. They don't have pre-academy until U13.

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A rational person, how refreshing!

Thanks for filling this nhpsa father in on the real deal here! He has this ridiculous notion that his kids team is top In the region! The 99's PA is going to be competitive! They have a great group of kids signed up! Practices start in the middle of aug!

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Seacoast Brazil which was in State Cup was their best U12 team. They don't have pre-academy until U13.

Exactly, and at U13, which team will be better, PA or the Seacoast Brazil team? Obvisously the best brazil players, if they choose, will be in PA, plus other top players in the general area from ME, MA, and NH. Therefor the PA team will have the top players and be better.

As far as NHSPA (now U12) will be U13 in the fall, how will they fair against Seacoast PA? Logically the PA team should be better, but no one will ever know because they will never face each other, unless a friendly is agreed to or somehow they meet in a tournament.

Two different venues PA and NEP/NPL.

Let the controversy continue.

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Careful, you're starting to sound like Mass. parents.

Came over to the NH thread to get some reality from reading the MA U14G, U12B, U13B, MPS this, NEFC that, how ugly.......and now you NH guys are in the same senseless arguments.

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And all this started with a shout out to NHPSA U12 Boys. HEY NHPSA U12 BOY, GREAT JOB!!!! You deserved it. Hope you are there next year.

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Exactly, and at U13, which team will be better, PA or the Seacoast Brazil team? Obvisously the best brazil players, if they choose, will be in PA, plus other top players in the general area from ME, MA, and NH. Therefor the PA team will have the top players and be better.

As far as NHSPA (now U12) will be U13 in the fall, how will they fair against Seacoast PA? Logically the PA team should be better, but no one will ever know because they will never face each other, unless a friendly is agreed to or somehow they meet in a tournament.

Two different venues PA and NEP/NPL.

Let the controversy continue.

For the 2012 NH State Cup U12 division, the best Seacoast U12 team played against the best NHPSA U12 team. NHPSA came out on top. Therefore, NHPSA can lay claim to "the top U12 team in NH" this year. Congratulations to NHPSA for their State Cup victory and for their success at the Region 1 Championships.

You cannot really compare the teams for next season. The best Seacoast team will play in the NEPAL, while the best NHPSA team will play in NEP. What folks need to realize is that pre-academy uses birth year. The U13 pre-academy players will be mostly born in 1999. The players in NEP U13 are born between August 1, 1999 and July 30, 2000. Any of the pre-academy players born before August 1, 1999 would be playing U14 in NEP.

Good luck to both teams this Fall.

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Why do you assume the u12 brazil team is going to be the Pre academy team???I have some news for you ...... the pre academy 99's will only have 3-4 of the best kids on the Brazil team moving on to Pre academy!! That's all. Maybe if the stars align they can play a friendly this fall and we can see how good NHPSA really is. I think you will be very surprised.

Also, at regionals you played a bunch of garbage teams! You would of got your a*& handed to you in the big boy bracket playing 11v11!! Playing PDA NJ or FSA CT would of been a big handful for NHPSA.

Above is an example of why some families choose not to play at Seacoast. I could not stand having to deal with this parent all season. I met many terrific Seacoast parents this past year, but there were several who really give the club a bad reputation.

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Age Eligibility

Exactly, and at U13, which team will be better, PA or the Seacoast Brazil team? Obvisously the best brazil players, if they choose, will be in PA, plus other top players in the general area from ME, MA, and NH. Therefor the PA team will have the top players and be better.

As far as NHSPA (now U12) will be U13 in the fall, how will they fair against Seacoast PA? Logically the PA team should be better, but no one will ever know because they will never face each other, unless a friendly is agreed to or somehow they meet in a tournament.

Two different venues PA and NEP/NPL.

Let the controversy continue.

Just one note to add to the discussion, the age eligibility date for Academy and Pre-Academy teams is December 31st as opposed to July 31st for most if not all other club teams. This can change the pool of players quite dramatically at any age group. That is why you can't assume that the Seacoast U-12 Brazil team will automatically become the majority of the U-13 Pre-Academy team, or whatever age group you were talking about. Interestingly, you'll find that many successful Pre' and academy players are born in the beginning of the year, Jan, Feb, March, April.

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Just one note to add to the discussion, the age eligibility date for Academy and Pre-Academy teams is December 31st as opposed to July 31st for most if not all other club teams. This can change the pool of players quite dramatically at any age group. That is why you can't assume that the Seacoast U-12 Brazil team will automatically become the majority of the U-13 Pre-Academy team, or whatever age group you were talking about. Interestingly, you'll find that many successful Pre' and academy players are born in the beginning of the year, Jan, Feb, March, April.

This is interesting to note. Makes me wonder if I should look to steer my son in the direction of a non DAP team / club. With a birthday in November... He is not skilled enough to compete in an "older" birth year group for a top team (ie where he would be the "youngest" in the group - just making the cutoff). I would have to wonder if it would be best for him to stick with a non-DAP club. More to think about, I guess....

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This is interesting to note. Makes me wonder if I should look to steer my son in the direction of a non DAP team / club. With a birthday in November... He is not skilled enough to compete in an "older" birth year group for a top team (ie where he would be the "youngest" in the group - just making the cutoff). I would have to wonder if it would be best for him to stick with a non-DAP club. More to think about, I guess....

If your son has the ability to play DAP when he is old enough, that is the way to go. The level of play is so far superior. Another thing to consider is playing time. If your son is good enough to be in the top 11 to 15 players, then that's great. If he is sitting on the bench most of the time, perhaps a non-DAP team is the better option.

However, do not get misled by the pre-academy propanganda. Pre-academy is not DAP. It is NOT affiliated with US Soccer Federation and the DAP. The DAP clubs in the northeast decided to form their own league for younger players. It is called the Northeast Pre-Academy League (NEPAL). The NEPAL is no where near the quality of DAP. Again, it has nothing to do with USSF. The local pre-academy teams are very good, but they are not superior to some of the other local non pre-academy teams. That changes at the DAP level.

Parents and players also need to understand that playing pre-academy does not guarantee a spot on the DAP team when they get older. DAP clubs do not recruit players for pre-academy. They take the best players that tryout. DAP is completely different. The DAP clubs heavily recruit and take the very best of the best. Many players and parents are disappointed that they played 2 to 3 years of pre-academy, but did not get a spot on a DAP team. A large percentage of pre-academy players never make the DAP team. Do not be misled by the propaganda. If your son never plays pre-academy, but is good enough to play DAP, he will make the DAP team.

As a previous poster commented, the pre-academy teams do not participate in State Cup and Region 1 Championships. That is a shame, as the boys miss out on alot of fun. NEPAL teams only play against other NEPAL teams, even in tournaments. They really do not get to gauge how good they are. The players are also not allowed to play middle school and high school soccer. That is also a shame, as the boys miss out on important socialization with their classmates.

The most important thing to consider is the coaching that your son will receive. The coach is more important than the club.

Back on topic, congratulations to the NHPSA Boys U12 team! What a great accomplishment.

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Seek Their Level

If your son has the ability to play DAP when he is old enough, that is the way to go. The level of play is so far superior. Another thing to consider is playing time. If your son is good enough to be in the top 11 to 15 players, then that's great. If he is sitting on the bench most of the time, perhaps a non-DAP team is the better option.

However, do not get misled by the pre-academy propanganda. Pre-academy is not DAP. It is NOT affiliated with US Soccer Federation and the DAP. The DAP clubs in the northeast decided to form their own league for younger players. It is called the Northeast Pre-Academy League (NEPAL). The NEPAL is no where near the quality of DAP. Again, it has nothing to do with USSF. The local pre-academy teams are very good, but they are not superior to some of the other local non pre-academy teams. That changes at the DAP level.

Parents and players also need to understand that playing pre-academy does not guarantee a spot on the DAP team when they get older. DAP clubs do not recruit players for pre-academy. They take the best players that tryout. DAP is completely different. The DAP clubs heavily recruit and take the very best of the best. Many players and parents are disappointed that they played 2 to 3 years of pre-academy, but did not get a spot on a DAP team. A large percentage of pre-academy players never make the DAP team. Do not be misled by the propaganda. If your son never plays pre-academy, but is good enough to play DAP, he will make the DAP team.

As a previous poster commented, the pre-academy teams do not participate in State Cup and Region 1 Championships. That is a shame, as the boys miss out on alot of fun. NEPAL teams only play against other NEPAL teams, even in tournaments. They really do not get to gauge how good they are. The players are also not allowed to play middle school and high school soccer. That is also a shame, as the boys miss out on important socialization with their classmates.

The most important thing to consider is the coaching that your son will receive. The coach is more important than the club.

Back on topic, congratulations to the NHPSA Boys U12 team! What a great accomplishment.

Good points here although the Pre' and Academy programs are closer together in rules and structure than one might surmise from the post. Also, the same clubs have the PA and Academy programs; Bolts, Revs, Seacoast around here, and they play against the same clubs in their region although in different leagues, Oakwood, Cosmos, DC United, Potomac, etc.
Bottom line for me, with three club players; I've always wanted my kids playing at their appropriate level, with a good coach. That's where they get the best experience. It doesn't matter if it's DAP, ECNL, Premier or B level, If they belong there and they have a good coach then they will be happy and progress. We've had players at all levels and they all got better and moved up , luckily with the guidance of a good coach.

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I would add one thing, which is the combo of above comments, it's the coach and level of competition. You want your son or daughter playing at a level they can succeed, and continue to climb that competitive ladder as they progress.