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    #76
    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    Yes, agreed. NY, CT, PA also have more local ECNL teams so less travel. But I think we're focusing solely on the MA landscape here.
    The topic is that the boys ECNL is dying. It isn't. It's growing that is mls next is trying to firc4 clubs to drop their ECNL program.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      The topic is that the boys ECNL is dying. It isn't. It's growing that is mls next is trying to firc4 clubs to drop their ECNL program.
      Well I revived this thread not because I was concerned about the ECNL in general, but because I wondered what the ECNL programs in MA offered over their National League counterparts. The ECNL might not even be able to claim a higher level of competition at the younger ages around here. ECNL may be strong elsewhere, and even be better than the National League here in MA, but it seems like it wouldn't take much for a few players in the 2 ECNL clubs here to jump ship and tilt the balance toward the National League as the second level option after MLS Next. National League already has it over ECNL on travel so if they lose the edge on talent, it could be a quick end.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Well I revived this thread not because I was concerned about the ECNL in general, but because I wondered what the ECNL programs in MA offered over their National League counterparts. The ECNL might not even be able to claim a higher level of competition at the younger ages around here. ECNL may be strong elsewhere, and even be better than the National League here in MA, but it seems like it wouldn't take much for a few players in the 2 ECNL clubs here to jump ship and tilt the balance toward the National League as the second level option after MLS Next. National League already has it over ECNL on travel so if they lose the edge on talent, it could be a quick end.
        The reality is - in the EDP in Mass, there might be 1 or 2 decent teams in a division. It gets very weak very quickly. In the ECNL, yes there is additional travel to NY, CT but the teams coming out of those states are much stronger than what you would find in the EDP around here. World Class, FSA, CFC. SUSA and Manhattan SC are all better than Seacoast, Surf, Juventus and Bayside EDP teams.

        The ideal would be to get rid of the concept of a divided soccer landscape, bring is all under one umbrella have different levels where teams can move up and down based on performance. Pretty simple, yet so difficult.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          The reality is - in the EDP in Mass, there might be 1 or 2 decent teams in a division. It gets very weak very quickly. In the ECNL, yes there is additional travel to NY, CT but the teams coming out of those states are much stronger than what you would find in the EDP around here. World Class, FSA, CFC. SUSA and Manhattan SC are all better than Seacoast, Surf, Juventus and Bayside EDP teams.

          The ideal would be to get rid of the concept of a divided soccer landscape, bring is all under one umbrella have different levels where teams can move up and down based on performance. Pretty simple, yet so difficult.
          At which point winning becomes more important than development. Because you lose your spot if you don't win. Any clubs trying to teach soccer will quit in favor of the easier safer kickball game. Your idea is atrocious.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            At which point winning becomes more important than development. Because you lose your spot if you don't win. Any clubs trying to teach soccer will quit in favor of the easier safer kickball game. Your idea is atrocious.
            I should not have said based on performance. I should have said - based on the appropriate skill level. The reality is - this structure already exists today but it is fragmented across many leagues. Bringing everyone under one umbrella would cut down on travel because there would be more available teams to play in at any given skill level.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              I should not have said based on performance. I should have said - based on the appropriate skill level. The reality is - this structure already exists today but it is fragmented across many leagues. Bringing everyone under one umbrella would cut down on travel because there would be more available teams to play in at any given skill level.
              Yeah we had that not long ago. You didn't have to go far for games, rarely went out of state except an occasional holiday weekend tournament. Then leagues started proliferating like flies in a pile of sh it.

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                #82
                The clubs may have a financial interest in the proliferation of leagues, but the idea that leagues could contract and consolidate is not totally out of the question. Just ask the NEP. Once enough clubs jumped, and the tipping point was reached, the rest jumped like rats from a burning ship. Even the clubs that ran NEP jumped in the last days. It started with a few clubs leaving and within weeks it was gone. ECNL Boys in MA is prime for this, only it would be an attrition of players not clubs. With only 3 clubs in MA, it could only take a few of the better players leaving to shift the balance of competition and then the floodgates open. Why travel when the comp is no better? ECNL cheerleaders won't admit it, but what starts as a leaky faucet can become a flooded kitchen very quickly.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  I should not have said based on performance. I should have said - based on the appropriate skill level. The reality is - this structure already exists today but it is fragmented across many leagues. Bringing everyone under one umbrella would cut down on travel because there would be more available teams to play in at any given skill level.
                  Figure out a way to promote losing teams that play possession soccer over winning teams that play kickball, and you'll revolutionize the industry.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Figure out a way to promote losing teams that play possession soccer over winning teams that play kickball, and you'll revolutionize the industry.
                    Hey bud, this is TS. That's kindergarten level trolling for what we see around here. Step up your game.

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