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Here’s the Pell Grant grad percentage by school. You’ll scroll A LOT to find the NESCACs. Amherst is the best at 25%(tied with UMass Amherst BTW), but they’re well behind UMass Boston, Lowell and Dartmouth. The next closest NESCAC is Conn College.

NESCACs may be “racially” diverse, but they’re not exactly lifting people of color up, especially in relation to their endowments.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...omic-diversity

Pell Grants are just government grants. They don’t represent the aid being given directly by the colleges.

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Here’s the Pell Grant grad percentage by school. You’ll scroll A LOT to find the NESCACs. Amherst is the best at 25%(tied with UMass Amherst BTW), but they’re well behind UMass Boston, Lowell and Dartmouth. The next closest NESCAC is Conn College.

NESCACs may be “racially” diverse, but they’re not exactly lifting people of color up, especially in relation to their endowments.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...omic-diversity

Amherst College is also well ahead of Umass-Amherst, UConn, UNH, Ohio State and many other much larger schools. Did you even read the list? It does NOT prove your point. Just the opposite.

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Amherst College is also well ahead of Umass-Amherst, UConn, UNH, Ohio State and many other much larger schools. Did you even read the list? It does NOT prove your point. Just the opposite.

Amherst College is also way ahead of Northeastern, BU, BC, all the Ivys, Stanford, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State and just about all the other big 10 schools in this measure of economic diversity.

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Amherst College is also well ahead of Umass-Amherst, UConn, UNH, Ohio State and many other much larger schools. Did you even read the list? It does NOT prove your point. Just the opposite.

UMass Amherst = 25%

Amherst = 25%

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Pell Grants are just government grants. They don’t represent the aid being given directly by the colleges.

It’s a measure of low income. NESCACs prefer low income people mop their floors, not populate their classes, dining halls and dorms.

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Amherst College is also way ahead of Northeastern, BU, BC, all the Ivys, Stanford, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State and just about all the other big 10 schools in this measure of economic diversity.

Economic diversity is not the same as racial diversity. Yes race and income are heavily intertwined but not all low-income kids are POC by any stretch. Pell grants are not from the schools but the Federal government. Common data set information on the racial makeup of student bodies is what's relevant.

Also schools manipulate aid data - they'll show a really high % of students getting assistance but the actual amounts are very low. Knocking a few K off 70K isn't making it affordable

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Cornell is more diverse than Williams.

Ok. But they are both elite institutions in the scheme of things. Neither are champions of upsetting the status quo.

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For many of the schools mentioned by posters "diversity" is an over-representation of Asians and an under representation of AA and Hispanics. Numbers won't add to 100 because of foreign students ( a fairly large %age at some schools) and a much smaller group declaring more than one race


% White/AA/Hispanic/Asian (all Common Data Set)

U Mich 56 4 7 16
MI State 67.6 7.4 5.1 6.1
Notre Dame 67 3.6 11 4.5
Northeastern 45.4 8.4 8.6 11.7
Stanford 29 7.4 17 24.8
Boston College 66.8 4.5 3.2 12
Boston Uni 50 5 14.6 21
Ohio State 66.8 6.4 4.3 7.1
Amherst C 40.4 10.4 14 15.4
Williams 48 7 13 12

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NESCAC administrators and parents desperately avoid commingling their students with the hoi polloi.

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NESCAC administrators and parents desperately avoid commingling their students with the hoi polloi.

Ironically, you are the snobbiest poster on here.

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Pell Grants are just government grants. They don’t represent the aid being given directly by the colleges.

ALL colleges award the “free” government aid for need-based students before applying institutional funds.

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NESCAC administrators and parents desperately avoid commingling their students with the hoi polloi.

No one understands where you want these students to get a college education. It would more useful if you explained what the best option is for getting a great education rather than just trashing a dozen schools without explaining where these students would be better off.

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ALL colleges award the “free” government aid for need-based students before applying institutional funds.

Of course. And federal $ will only get you so far in covering the total cost of college. The difference makers are the ones that close the gaps for lower and middle income families. The Ivies are very generous with financial assistance with their massive endowments. Some privates are too, but more often than not don't give enough to pull it into an affordable column for even middle income families. State schools tend to give less in part because their tuitions are lower

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No one understands where you want these students to get a college education. It would more useful if you explained what the best option is for getting a great education rather than just trashing a dozen schools without explaining where these students would be better off.

At NESCAC schools, but they are red lined.

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At NESCAC schools, but they are red lined.

So what is a kid to do? Is the advantage of an environment with more diversity more important that the level of attention and the quality of the faculty at a nescac? I think each student makes the best choice they can. There is no right answer for every kid.