Why does Stars always recruit players heavily to their club. I never hear Scorpions doing it for their ECNL teams. Scorpions have some very strong teams at 05 and below but my daughter does not see or tells us their are a lot of new faces at training. Just find it weird when reading players not happy at NEDC and better yet SSS.
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Not sure if it's an issue of not being happy at NEFC or SSS (although that's probably the case for some at the bottom of those big rosters). It's more the top players determining that playing in college is their top priority and there is no better track record in Massachusetts for D1 commitments than Stars.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
If you aren't willing are able to make the ride to Lancaster, then Scorpions is a great second option for access to the ECNL showcases. Which is why Scoptions picks up a couple girls from those clubs every year.Comment
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Exactly. Got two rosters to fill, double the recruiting and double the money.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
What I am most interested in is daily we here how great ECNL is in one breath, and in the other we hear how players from outside ECNL stream in there at any given moment.Comment
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2 rosters is just the _top_ of the pyramid!Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
they also need to fill both ENCL-R teams
and now apparently multiple NPL teams
and still keep the $$ coming in with the NEP teams.
and if they move kids up they aren't bringing new money in the door, much better to recruit and get net new money.Comment
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To your 2nd point... the argument is not that the ECNL MA players are the best in the state, it is that ECNL is the best league for college recruiting. And that the best players in MA will gravitate to these leagues as they get closer to college recruiting age.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Hi, no, that's not the argument from many. When people trash a league, the competition, the clubs, and the teams...they are also trashing the players. The players ARE the team, the club, the competition, and the league. So, that tells a lot about ECNL players to me that dozens of them are just placeholders until something better comes along.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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haha fair enough. there are lots of "interesting" opinions on TS and some of them are as you mentioned. End of the day ECNL fanboys are going to fanboyOriginally posted by Unregistered View Post
I was laying out what I take to be the honest argument for "Why ECNL?"Comment
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Not OP but this is a simple take. These things are in constant evolution. Top player today may not be top a year from now. Other kids may develop slower but become really good. As was said, ECNL just provides the best platform which means that over time most (not all) of the better players will migrate there. Some good players eventually are replaced by ones from other leagues who work to make ECNL.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Anyone who has been around for a year or so will see that its a constant stream of kids trying out, coming from many places. The real challenge for many in ECNL is not making it, but staying and maintaining the work ethic to get PT.Comment
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We have dozens of threads that gravitate to "Why ECNL?". That wasn't a question I asked nor commented on. I was musing over the quality of players in the league (if what is being said on TS is true, which I know is tenuous).Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I don't really want to argue with you because my hunch is we mostly agree. And I'm not here to fanboy for any particular league.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
This this thread is about club movement and the question seemed to me to be why is there continued recruiting into ECNL teams?
I think there are 2 main sources of outflow from ECNL teams-
1) churn out of players who for whatever reason want to get of the D1-or-bust train tracks. 2) kids who are relegated down by their club.
Taken together that leaves a roster spots to fill every season.
And there are 2 main sources of inflow into ECNL teams-
1) new players looking to get on the ECNL train, primarily for college recruiting
2) promotion from lower teams
I think the $$ explains why the club might prefer to recruit in from the outside rather than move up from within.
I do personally know of examples of kids actually moving up, both ECNL and GA, but it doesn't seem to be as common as coming in from the outside. (although perhaps the outside recruiting gets more airplay because it feeds into the us-vs-them bs on ts).
Another possibility is that outside recruits are favored because of confirmation bias that the lower level players are just lower level players. The flip side would be optimism bias convincing coaches that the new shiny player from outside will be better than a kid from regional team.Comment
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Juventus doesn’t develop, they just recruit for profit. The only way some of their teams are successful is because they will field teams competitively with players from across all regions. The amount of money that they charge is ridiculous for what they actually do. Their methodology is keep the organization paid. I wouldn’t spend a dime on their garbage…
Why so many parents and players so negative on Juventus; poor past experiences make them want to warn other parents before they make the same mistake. What Juventus fears most is honest reviews from past parents who’ve seen the lack of quality coaching and poor organization!!Comment
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