Be safe! New variants may spread easier.

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......so many brilliant immunologists on this site. Good to know we have such reliable information and sage advice.

Take a trip to the ICU and see how your basement looks then.

1. I'm guessing you are not an immunologist either...so your posts are just opinion.

2. I'm also guessing you have not been to an ICU...you have just seen it on TV.

Since your posts are so full of facts and knowledge. How do you see the country pulling out of this (soccer aside)? Stay inside until 100% of the world is Covid-free? Because even one person can infect 10 people who infect 10 people and so on and so on... Or, get the vaccine so it limits the effects and try and move the country forward? Make it so that it has a lower death rate than the flu. No one is saying that this isn't serious. But you can't shut the world down...you just can't.

If you are so scared then there is nothing stopping you from moving deep in to the adirondack mountains. You will be safe. Grow your own vegetables and hunt your own meat. Good luck and god speed.

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MI daycare center outbreak of the more contagious UK variation resulted in 2 dozen cases among kids, staff and family members.

Cases. Anything more?

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People are pathetic ,if you think this virus is going away your delusional.Even with two vaccine doses you can still catch and spread covid.Kids that have had it already have immunities.Vaccinate the at risk and get on with living.

This virus is going away. Never in the history of the world has a virus remained virulent for more than 2 or 3 years killing in the numbers it did in its first or 2nd year. Please prove me wrong and tell me why this virus is going to do something no virus has ever done before in millions of years. It's a blip on the radar of time and it is going away. Please stop with the doom and gloom.

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MI daycare center outbreak of the more contagious UK variation resulted in 2 dozen cases among kids, staff and family members.

Wow, big factoid, leading statement. Dig a little deeper now and spit out the rest of that story. How many died (or were even hospitalized)?

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Not sure Jim Cramer’s site is an entirely objective source of news. This guy’s main point is splitting hairs on scientific terms (a variant isn’t a new strain) rather than saying that Covid isn’t very lethal or that new variants can’t spread more easily. If you had read the article, it’s interesting what he had to say about the past administration’s handling of the pandemic:

Racaniello: Well, we’re going to have another one, for sure, whether it’s another coronavirus or flu or whatever, there’s no way we’re going to prevent it. Unfortunately, this response got caught up in politics, right? And it’s crazy that public health measures got political. … The fact that, today, right now, that (many) Republicans don’t want the vaccine and (many) Democrats do, is just ridiculous. The former administration politicized it. Trump wanted to talk it down because he thought the stock market would tank or some nonsense, and then he got so far into it, he couldn’t reverse himself. … Even the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention screwed up, big time, because the director, he blew it from the start. He was a Trump loyalist and didn’t want to go against him.

You jump right to the political part without reading the part where he said the vaccine is effective against variants? That's the point, there are no new "strains," just new "variants." A new strain might be an issue for the vaccine, but not new variants. And to put it in context, he points out that there is still only one strain of HIV, which has been around for 40 years now.

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You jump right to the political part without reading the part where he said the vaccine is effective against variants? That's the point, there are no new "strains," just new "variants." A new strain might be an issue for the vaccine, but not new variants. And to put it in context, he points out that there is still only one strain of HIV, which has been around for 40 years now.

And we apparently have an effective vaccine for HIV now. Can't wait for the debate about who should be getting that!

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None of us here are epidemiologists so let’s stop spouting our opinions at each other. If you feel comfortable going out in public then do so. If you are not comfortable going out in public then don’t. It’s been over a year of this back and forth. Enough already.

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This virus is going away. Never in the history of the world has a virus remained virulent for more than 2 or 3 years killing in the numbers it did in its first or 2nd year. Please prove me wrong and tell me why this virus is going to do something no virus has ever done before in millions of years. It's a blip on the radar of time and it is going away. Please stop with the doom and gloom.

You’re an idiot. Did you ever hear of smallpox? It was around 3,000 years ago until it was finally eradicated in the 1950’s. And that was after a vaccination effort that began in the 1800’s. Killed one out of 10 who became infected. Probably hundreds of millions over 3,000 years. You haven’t got a clue what you are talking about.

https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html

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You jump right to the political part without reading the part where he said the vaccine is effective against variants? That's the point, there are no new "strains," just new "variants." A new strain might be an issue for the vaccine, but not new variants. And to put it in context, he points out that there is still only one strain of HIV, which has been around for 40 years now.

Only about 20% of Americans are vaccinated, dummy. Worldwide numbers are lower. That means 80+% of humanity has no protection against Covid of any sort because there isn’t enough vaccine or personnel to deliver it everywhere. The US is months away from 70-80% herd immunity and the rest of the world maybe even a year away. And the vaccine hasn’t proven itself to be good for longer than a year so we’ll be right back trying to get folks vaccinated again soon, but probably fewer takers then. So he can give you all the textbook jargon he wants, but if you asked him whether we should be re-opening, going in large groups indoors, or putting mask mandates aside with only a small % of the population vaccinated, he’d probably say you shouldn’t.

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You gain immunity from catching and recovering from covid.If this is true there are millions of kids that are unknowns in the equation.At risk get a shot if not don’t .

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You gain immunity from catching and recovering from covid.If this is true there are millions of kids that are unknowns in the equation.At risk get a shot if not don’t .

People say “immunity” like it’s a super bullet proof vest that will stop a bazooka. Yes, if you get Covid and survive, your body produces antibodies but no one knows if that defense is enough to stop you from having Covid again or how long immunity, if any, lasts. It might be a few months or even a year, but very unlikely to be life-long immunity. The common cold and flu are also coronavirus, but having one cold or flu doesn’t prevent you from having another one. That’s one reason why the flu vaccine is an annual shot. Don’t know why you think kids are immune. The very young and very old do not have the strongest immune systems.

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People say “immunity” like it’s a super bullet proof vest that will stop a bazooka. Yes, if you get Covid and survive, your body produces antibodies but no one knows if that defense is enough to stop you from having Covid again or how long immunity, if any, lasts. It might be a few months or even a year, but very unlikely to be life-long immunity. The common cold and flu are also coronavirus, but having one cold or flu doesn’t prevent you from having another one. That’s one reason why the flu vaccine is an annual shot. Don’t know why you think kids are immune. The very young and very old do not have the strongest immune systems.

And just like the flu and colds coronaviruses can and will mutate. They already are. So far it looks like the current vaccines are working against them but who knows how long that will last. We most likely will need boosters to address variants, maybe even combine them with flu shots once a year.

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People say “immunity” like it’s a super bullet proof vest that will stop a bazooka. Yes, if you get Covid and survive, your body produces antibodies but no one knows if that defense is enough to stop you from having Covid again or how long immunity, if any, lasts. It might be a few months or even a year, but very unlikely to be life-long immunity. The common cold and flu are also coronavirus, but having one cold or flu doesn’t prevent you from having another one. That’s one reason why the flu vaccine is an annual shot. Don’t know why you think kids are immune. The very young and very old do not have the strongest immune systems.

Most kids do perfectly fine with Covid and may have already had it without any symptoms or symptoms that were assumed to be a seasonal illness (especially early on when no one was getting tested). That doesn't mean it will stay that way given viruses mutate. Covid vaccines aren't "one and done" like polio or measles. There also isn't enough data and testing on Covid vaccines with kids <16 yet.

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And we apparently have an effective vaccine for HIV now. Can't wait for the debate about who should be getting that!

You know how this game is played. Big Brother is going to make us ALL get it. For our safety.

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You know how this game is played. Big Brother is going to make us ALL get it. For our safety.

HIV can be prevented through safe sex practices. Tough to stop covid if an infected patient is hacking up a lung next to you on a plane, or there's an outbreak in a hospital. Two very different public health issues.